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Maci hadn't revealed she was pregnant when this scene aired. You can clearly see her pregnant belly. See the near empty beer glass on the desk? That is her usual glass she uses when drinking beer:

I edited my post above. There is a video of Jeff playing in that Starcasm link I posted. From 2011, Jeff ranked #17 in California State Poker Championship: http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tournaments/3423-2011-california-state-poker-championship/1050649/results

Yay to your dad on his sobriety! I think Matt has many vices - sex, drinking, conning people, and gambling is just one of them. The first gambling Matt did was right in front of Amber's eyes when he told her he flips houses.

I think so, too. Ty is almost always referencing their fans and he did one time say in an interview how it was their support that got them through a lot of what they have been through. I also believe Cate knows Ty stayed out of guilt, which is why she manipulates him. By having an anxiety attack, the crying fits, the depression-filled weeks, she can control him and keep him there.

Amber is supporting Don...er, Jeff. You can see Jeff at the 34:30 mark in the video, scroll down: http://starcasm.net/archives/373203

"If I cheated then so did Javi"? How mature. That reads like something a five year old would say. Kail, that is your Twitter page and you are the one with the history of cheating on every guy you've been with in your short life. It doesn't take much to figure out you did in fact cheat. I know you can't own your shit, but stop trying to deflect.

I am sorry. I hope and pray that you will be able to conceive soon. I have a relative who had to go through IVF. Maci likely drank throughout her three pregnancies. Why would she drink through just one? She has been a drinker since her teens.

My daughter's friend actually won $36k at one of the most recent WSOP tournaments. One of his tricks is looking at the body language of the other players to know when they have a good or bad hand. But that is something he had to master over time. He went on to describe what it took for him to get where he is at, and it is no easy feat. Matt has been too busy conning people, creating and abandoning children in his wake, and besides, what money has he ever had to enter a true poker tournament? This isn't Pogo, Matt. It's the real deal. Someone posted the image from the tv screen on Twitter. I forgot whose Twitter page. Did anyone catch his last name?

How can someone rat on someone when the conversation was shown on television? Maci had that conversation while filming the show. Every single time she has said shit about the Edwards, there was the camera. She even talked to the producer about the Edwards and that whole bullshit drama about Christmas. Not sure how that is ratting out someone when Maci has had no problem talking shit about people on camera. Maci's mom doesn't want to be a part of the fuckery that is known as Maci. She has had it with her lying, conniving daughter. The daughter who lied about how she wasn't able to conceive, but somehow had two miracle babies. The daughter who lied and said her doctor told her she didn't need birth control. All of that was aired on the show or in interviews. It is not rumors. Her daughter lied about being pregnant on camera while she was at least six months pregnant. She played it off as if she didn't know. She either was hiding the truth from Taylor or she was lying to the public because she was caught boozing it up while pregnant on social media. She also drank while the MTV cameras were rolling right before she revealed she was pregnant. She was out with her friend having lunch and drinks.

Someone posted on the Amber Porkwood Twitter page a photo of Matt's actual winnings from his previous trip to Vegas He lied (no shit) and told Drew and Amber he won - I guess $3k is winning. Better than losing it all: Amber responded to this tweet about her and Matt doing Marriage Boot Camp solely for publicity. Isn't this her response to just about everything? No Amber, the dumbest shit you heard was when Matt walked into your rental home and told you he was moving in.

Like I posted before, Jesus has his hands full with Jenelle's kids. he ain't got time to take the wheel. :-)

I don't think that much fringe was ever put on clothing in the 60s.

She knew since November 2012. This made me laugh. LOL!!! Truth! Maci: "You didn't ask me what year." *burp* Yes they all knew since 2012,

Preach!

So much more could be accomplished for Bentley's sake if they would just stop pointing fingers and get together as one group and confront Ryan with tough love. No more chances, no more support. We are not going to enable you anymore. You are on your own. They could do the intervention with Maci speaking up on Bentley's behalf. But with Jen 2.0 (Mackenzie) in the picture now, it will only get worse, I am afraid.

@Jeanne222 Maci chose to co-parent with Jen and Larry. She didn't complain about them being the people she consults with and co-parents with. She said so in an interview clip that was linked here a few pages back on this thread. You can check it out yourself. She said she chose to co-parent with the grandparents because they are like her second parents and they are grandparents to all her kids. If she truly had an issue with them, she could have done something about it. She is not legally bound to give Bentley to them for Ryan's visitations. Maci not only dropped off Bentley for visitation time, she dropped him off when they asked her to have Bentley or when Maci had more pressing matters to tend to such as going on her hundredth vacation for the year or going out of state to party. Does that mean she wouldn't love for Ryan to be involved? No, of course not. But the Edwards are not these people she loathes or finds herself forced to co-parent with. She had one issue with a holiday and she created this big drama over it. There were more pressing and bigger issues at hand. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Ryan showed Maci and his family who he was back when he relapsed. Maci is a full-blown idiot for even contemplating or bringing up the idea of wanting Bentley to spend time with Ryan knowing the facts about him. That topic should never have been brought up or mentioned. Once she was aware of his relapse, her ass should have gone into protection mode. The same way she said she had to protect Bentley from the MTV cameras because of Farrah's adult entertainment career, that is what she should have done back when she and the rest of the Edwards clan decided to play the "Put your blinders on" game for their MTV cash.

I am taking this to the Maci thread.

We watch the show. A lot of the things listed came straight from her mouth. Maci also has her social media pages. Anyone else remember how she lied about being pregnant? LOL If you watched the episodes, you heard Maci tell her husband and her friends how she wants to co-parent with Ryan instead of his parents. Now, it doesn't take much to figure out she is saying she has no issue co-parenting with a drug addict since she knew he relapsed back in 2012. Exactly. He will lose it and the rest of Amber's and his money will go to hookers.

Oh yes, shut down was what she said regarding Jen's response. Jen may shut down and put blinders on, it doesn't mean Maci has to go along with it. I am sure many of us here have had to deal with someone who was enabling an addict. I personally had to inform someone I wasn't allowing their child in my home due to their addiction. It hurt to have to tell this relative why I was putting my foot down, but I wasn't going to be a victim of their child's stealing. My gosh, I was so concerned about having to lock up my bedroom, hide my purse, making sure my husband's wallet was also put away. Any piggy banks were not visible. That is too much to have to deal with. Maci herself was putting blinders on. She didn't want to have to cease the visitation for Bentley at his grandparents' home even though they were a big part of the problem. Well, mainly Jen. Maci shut down the therapist on the phone by ignoring his professional advice.

Emilee is such a cutie!!! I want to hug her and kiss her. Leah, too.

There was a time when I posted Maci is the person I would be least afraid of leaving small kids with in her care. Now, that is no longer the case. The boozing, the arguing, the drunken fighting with Taylor in front of the kids, her allowing any 7 year-old child to watch Teen Mom, god knows how many beers she drinks throughout the day. She is a judgmental POS. Amber is sending love to Bew Bew on Twitter. I guess she doesn't have time to call her or you know, visit her.

As Fonzie would say, "Exactamundo!" IMO she did talk to the both of them about Ryan's issues. There is no way in hell she never brought it up once. In fact, go back to the scene in her home in one episode where she was telling Taylor and the producer how it gets annoying talking to Jen about certain issues pertaining to Ryan. Then, there is the scene where she is talking to the therapist and says she is not sure what drugs Ryan is addicted to. Now, that could be true, at a certain point. I know those therapy scenes were set up and Maci was already aware of the actual drug. She just had to play it off to conform with what the storyline was on the show. She was fully aware of pills, but at a certain point she may not have been aware of him abusing opiates and shooting up heroin. IMO The blow-up with Larry and Ryan had to be the trigger point for Maci to inquire with them what exactly was going on with Ryan. I can't imagine her not asking out of curiosity and concern especially to the two people she admitted were her second set of parents and she has a close bond with them.

Kiki That is likely who Mackenzie is writing the letter to.

Wait....which photo is Cate? I need help to decipher. LOL I see Maci is wearing, again, those black ripped jeans. Oh, and she has her hooker heels on.

She's too busy working on her letter to his drug dealer.