Otherkate

Ah, I think I wasn't super clear. In the past I've hated members of the cast, but still enjoyed watching (either to see them get their just desserts, ie Paul, or just because I'm a masochist). The problem this year is not about hating anyone (I don't feel anything that strong). It's that I'm bored as hell.

I've watched this show since 2000 and this is the first time I've ever skipped episodes. I mean, I didn't even skip an episode the night of my rehearsal dinner (it was Dr. Will/Season 2 so...can't blame me). I watched the eviction ep this week, but that was it. There have been plenty of years where I've HATED the cast, but this is a whole other ballgame. This show really failed us when we needed it most. 😕

Dani this season is a walking ad campaign for bobs. I'm a long hair enthusiast, but she's made want to chop mine off as soon as I can.

Yeah, I've lived through this once before already (post-9/11 NYC) and will not be remotely surprised when NYC rebounds. Right after 9/11, you could get amazing deals on rentals within Manhattan because people were scared. The city always moves on, it's resilient. Not to mention that an awful lot of people moving out have young families and would have likely made their way out to the suburbs soon anyway, this just rushed things along. As far as working from anywhere, it's great...in theory. We've been WFH since March and it was exciting at first and now the vast majority of us are miserable and desperate to go back to the office, see other people, and eat in our usual lunchtime haunts. Plus, NYC has a lot more to offer than just cramped office space. There will always be young people who move here with a dream, thank goodness. As far as the show...I'm still not getting what is so bad about Lea's mother? Like, what is the big deal? I don't get what she expects from this woman.

That right there, is why I can't quite those two. That lemon zest is pure (platonic) adorable love.

I am just catching up and, good lord, in the very first episode I was worried, but happy to report that I still adore Kaysar and Janelle and that I would still marry him. *swoon*

My 12 year old has started doing this once every two days or so. It's the most annoying thing in the world, but I've slowly realized that not reacting is the quickest way to get her to show back up again and go back to normal. But, uh, like I said, she's 12.

I am dying laughing. I grew up in the Berkshires and...no, not quite, Dorinda. One of my best friends worked in the summers for several years at the Red Lion Inn and I swear she hasn't brought it up one time since. Dorinda needs help.

I died laughing. When we go to the really good places in Chinatown we usually just ask the waiter to give us whatever he thinks is best and it's always so worth it. This show is now really, really bad and really, really boring. Like, wow. I honestly don't think I can watch any more of Sonja, Leah, and Dorinda.

The combo of Leah + Dorinda is sucking the oxygen out of this show. I understand that Leah may have some mental health issues, but I don't want to see any of it play out. The world is so messed up and I need this show to be an escape, not to depress the ever loving fuck out of me. NYC has always been the funniest of the franchises, mostly due to actual wit and that is pretty much entirely gone this year. I've tossed Vanderpump already and am close to doing the same here. Who needs it.

Eh, I did my time at Conde Nast and you would generally find young women with great family connections serving as beauty and fashion assistants at all the mags, but especially at Vogue. Particularly during Tinsley's time, which was also my time. I wasn't happy when Tinsley was cast. We're the same age and I was a hard working young (dirt poor) woman in publishing and media when she was known for being an "It girl" - something which didn't impress me at all. There's still nothing about her that makes me think I'd enjoy spending an extended amount of time with her - she's not independent and she acts like a 6 year old and that's not my thing. That said, she is totally harmless and has grown on me. She has a level of kindness that I admire in her and she displays good manners, which is sadly missing with this crew. I wouldn't go to her for interesting conversation, but I'd rather hang out with her than Dorinda any day of the week. I was really furious when Dorinda made fun of Tinsley for the comment about the curly/straight hair argument with Dale. I actually think Tinsley was revealing some pretty serious shit there - that's exactly what her mother has done to her her entire life and it's exactly WHY she's not independent or mature. Her mother has done a real number on her and she was using that as an example of a larger issue. It was totally on topic and, frankly, a lot more interesting to me than hearing Dorinda talk about BSM or Richard for the 1000th time. It revealed a level of self-awareness that I think should be encouraged and instead Dorinda made fun of her. Gross. Also, I may not be looking to hang with Tinsley, but no way would I sit there while some other woman berates and bullies her. Wtf was that? Absolutely not. Tinsley is weak, Dorinda knows it, and zeroed in on her and none of these women will do a thing about it. No way I could sit there and watch Dorinda bulldoze someone like that. Honestly, this season has been a real bummer and Dorinda is basically making this show unwatchable for me.

I have a 9 year old and I agree. Both of my kids have IG accounts - 9 and 11. All of their friends do too. ETA: My kids' accounts are private (much to their chagrin - they beg me CONSTANTLY to let them be public), but lots of their friends have public accounts.

I definitely think he's a little sleezy and pretty gross, myself, but I take issue with Dorinda acting like the guy doesn't know how to handle the logistics around a renovation or whatever the heck she was yapping about him not being able to understand. Pretty sure he can handle it.

I used to live around the corner from his place. It is THE place to go if you have something that needs special care. I brought my wedding dress there. John may not be the most cultured and he isn't my type, but he isn't treated fairly on this show or by Dorinda. He's quite accomplished and runs a business that has been trusted for decades. It's ridiculous that Dorinda acts like he doesn't know how to handle anything. I'd rather have him in charge of my business than Dorinda.

I will never forgive this show for getting to be unbearably boring just when we need it most. I think I'm done with it.

I've given it a few episodes, but I may be over this franchise and I can't believe it. I'm still interested in Lu and Ramona, but that's pretty much it. I like sober Leah, but...well..I understand now why she stopped drinking. I found the whole thing sad. My friends and I definitely drunkenly raged in our 20s, but good grief. I spent most of the time half watching and doing something else on my laptop.

Wow, this made me look back - I forgot that Cook Islands had actually a lot going on and lots of good cast members. I've been watching Survivor since day one, but I don't think I've rewatched at all, so I feel like I have all the people muddled in my head.

Thank you for your recommendations of which season to start out with to watch for the first time with my two daughters. They are LOVING Pearl Islands and are clearly turning into Survivor fans. 20 minutes into the first episode, my older daughter said she thinks Sandra is going to win. In general, they are both big Sandra fans. It's been so long since I watched this season of Survivor, that I forgot how Sandra was in her first season - it's been great to watch. I'm afraid we're going to burn through pretty quickly - any suggestions for the next season? I was thinking Cook Islands because of Ozzzy or Palau because I think they will like Stephanie. I honestly can't remember Rob's first season all that well, but feel like it's important for them to meet good old Boston Rob, too.

Same here. I cackled, I swear to god. I really needed the laugh though, so thank you Adam!

I was absolutely rooting for Rob, so was disappointed that Tyson got in, but he amuses me too, so it's fine. I'm so bummed that the majority of the players I want to watch are on EOE, but I like most of the remaining ones too. I really liked Sophie on her season and am not surprised that she's doing so well again. She's incredibly perceptive and she's smart. I can not STAND Ben, but am thankful to him for bringing us two great scenes: him being rude to poor Adam which led to Adam's amazing freakout and Ben saying he's one of the big threats to Tony. Haha, ok. I don't even know what to say about Adam. I'm certainly not rooting for him, yet I desperately need him to be around as long as possible. He is endlessly entertaining and I simply can not get enough.

Thank you so much. I could feel myself getting irrational in that thread and had to moderate myself. Honestly, things are just so bad for our healthcare workers here right now that the insinuation that things were being exaggerated was enough to make me lose it. I couldn't sleep last night, though I know many of us are living with insomnia these days. Full disclosure: I live with a doctor here who works in one of our hospitals and, honestly, I think we're in for a real crisis - mental health-wise as well as physical. Things are dark. My doc is normally pretty blase about everything - god forbid you think you're sick because he's the first to tell you to take a Tylenol, shut it, and move on. Our hospitals are always insanely busy, this is something else and the gear is a continuing issue. Hoping for the best for our healthcare workers around the world. I read this this morning and think it's pretty on target. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-doctors-sick.html I will say, though, when I couldn't sleep last night, I watched an NYC marathon and it did wonders for my mood. I'm counting down the days until our crazies return to us. I don't know what I would do without these dumb shows right now. I'm almost considering starting Summer House. Should I???

Editing to moderate myself. I'm grossed out by this conversation and way too close to the situation to put myself through continuing it.

I totally agree with you. That's exactly what the government should have done weeks ago, but didn't and still hasn't. In an ideal situation, we wouldn't be looking at states and cities and countries competing with one another for this equipment and it makes me sick. But, here we are. Nevermind the companies and people who are jacking up the prices as soon as a state is ready to try and buy equipment. Can you imagine? Right now there is a person dying in NYC every 7 minutes. Our nurses are wearing garbage bags and some of our doctors are literally wearing plastic to-go containers as face masks. They need equipment desperately so that we don't lose our healthcare workers in addition to the patients. I support anyone who is willing to bust their asses to get it to them quickly in the face of this absolute mess. Anyway, we're probably getting off topic, but I'm sure all of us wish this situation was not what it is. It's just horrifying all around. Looking forward to having the other loony ladies back on my screen soon as a much-needed distraction.

Mass General has been hit hard and has almost 100 health professionals who have tested positive. They need gear. I believe the masks she has collected are also going to Mt. Sinai, Cedars Sinai, and NYU, among others. As a longtime NYC resident and someone who has 3 very close friends who work in our hospital system, 1 as an ER doc and 2 as nurses, I don't give two flying fucks who is giving them the masks or how they got the masks. The government has failed and it's every state for itself. Whoever can do it, please just do it, and thank you.