lucy711

Ok Colt and Larissa are already making me sick.

Olga shouldn't even try to stay with this loser. She shouldn't waste her time.

As an aside, I wouldn't get implants so young. My chest filled out in college. I'd love implants now, but I'm in my 30s and could use a lift after breastfeeding. Fernanda rushed this!

So did Jonathan and Fernanda meet and immediately start working on the visa? She said it took a year and a half- did he know her for a day before they decided to get it?

I don't understand how they are affording this at all. And he needs to hope that he'll be a good lawyer to get a good job. My husband started his career as a paralegal in a law firm (he's not a lawyer but it was a decent job while he looked for something in his career field), and at the firm there were plenty of lawyers who were mediocre and barely making more than him. And they had law school debt to pay off. A law degree isn't a golden ticket these days.

Thank you for saying this. You don't just waltz into a modeling agency and get a contract. It involves a lot of work. My sister-in-law had a portfolio done and ran around all over NYC for years and got nowhere. Like Fernanda, she is very pretty, but so are many, many girls that age. And pretty isn't enough- you have to be the right height and have the right frame for clothing. Maybe she should actually consider a more viable long-term plan like getting a skill or attending college. Not everyone can make a living on taking pictures on Instagram. I don't think she and Jonathan ever talked about long-term plans prior to their marriage.

It's funny how everyone has different perceptions of body types. I think she is slender but not skinny. I think a woman can have a large chest but still be slender if she isn't carrying too much weight elsewhere.

Yes. You are right about Leida's dress, but I think she doesn't have much shape in general and that is why she wears oversized tops. I don't think she is bad-looking at all, but her personality detracts from any attentiveness that she may have had. Her wedding was so incredibly sad. They would have had such a better time getting married in a court course and then treating themselves to a fancy dinner afterward. I agree with what @Drogo said- many men seem to cheat to feel better about themselves and the attractiveness of their spouse/partner is not the issue. I mean- Prince Charles cheated on Princess Diana, and she was so beautiful (although they were so mismatched that they never should have married in the first place). I think Ashley has many issues and that leads to her poor decision-making. She needs to take a step back and focus on herself for a while before looking for another life partner. I am used to seeing people wear cocktail attire at weddings, so watching the attire of the folks at Colt/Larissa's wedding and Eric/Leida's made me shudder. I live in NJ and it is common for non-bridal party members to even get their hair done for nice weddings. I have only seen one wedding in real life where people weren't dressed up. I went to a wedding for friends of mine in Pennsylvania. The groom's family looked fine, but multiple people from the bride's family came in jeans and flannel shirts. I couldn't believe it. And the mother of the bride wore pants like Debbie. It was the first time I saw a mother of the bride/groom not in a dress (As an aside I've been to many other weddings in PA where everyone looked fine). Edited to add this: I think a woman could rock a fancy pantsuit at a wedding if it is tailored right, but the mother of the bride in question was in generic black pants and a blouse that was somewhat like Debbie's.

I groaned when Ashley said this. It is a common thought among slender women and it drives me crazy. I don't know why they can't get it through their peabrains that being a slender woman is not the end-all. Plus, there are plenty of guys who prefer thicker women. I am thin. My husband always tells me that he finds me attractive but that he would find me even more so with a few extra pounds. Maybe one day I'll be there, but maybe not because everyone in my family is thin. Not only that, but maybe she should pay more attention to her personality than to her appearance. Having a pleasant personality it important if you want to attract a decent, non-cheating man.

I agree with you. Ashley said on social media that the racist comments on her page were the work of a jilted ex-boyfriend. I've heard people even surmising that TLC planted the comments to make their storyline more interesting. I put nothing past TLC, but I'm willing to accept her explanation. It seems like everything with this couple has been distorted by the show in some way.

Yeah, I tend to agree. He is young and impulsive and has not mastered the con yet. Azan, though, was quite good. How many thousands of dollars did Nicole give him? And I think they are still "together." But then again, maybe he just found an easy target!

Jay knew he wasn't ready. I don't feel bad for him because he was clearing working a con on Ashley the whole time. I didn't think he was in it for the green card, but apparently he was. But I agree that Ashley showed a terrible lack of judgement. I'm Ashley's age and have a child. I would not entertain marrying a 20 year old for one minute. It's absurd. I am at a completely different stage in my life than someone that age.

Yup. I think it's easy to put on weight in the USA but I'm sure she will soon figure out where to go for healthier food. Incidentally, I think I'd gain weight if I moved to any foreign country because I'd want to try all of the foods that I wasn't used to eating! Even when I was in Britain I gorged on the scones and biscuits! If I was Kalani's mother or father, I'd slowly start cutting financial ties. Kalani is capable of working. Asuelu can do something once he gets his legal paperwork. All parents watching this show should take note of this story and realize that Kalani's attitude is what happens when you don't raise your children to be independent and self-reliant. It was much less fun watching for me last night because I didn't participate in the live chat. But I was multi-tasking and baking/wrapping at the same time. Happy Holidays to everyone!

Jay really disappointed me. Even though he was twenty and immature, I had hopes that he was willing to make it work with Ashley. He's awful. And Ashley is too old to have been so naive about the whole situation.

eatsleep- I'm not so sure how you quoted me (about Steven and Olga the "martyr") because I didn't write this. Not a big deal, but I'm not the type of person to use the term f---boy!

The reason I'm not more sympathetic about her being housebound is that it is temporary. And she, and the other fiancees, knew that coming over. Their significant others still needs to work. Maybe Jon can't come home during lunch hour. Many jobs don't offer that flexibility. My husband works too far away to even consider coming home at lunch. You can't expect the partner to take off for weeks at a time. Most jobs won't allow that. And I still hold that going to a bar ONE NIGHT after work isn't that ridiculous. I don't think that is thoughtless at all, although he could have responded to her texts. It might be a personality thing in that I've always enjoyed being home and can always find something to do (yes, even after I had surgery once and couldn't drive for weeks). If Fernanda is an extrovert, I'm sure it is harder. I don't think there is definitely a right or wrong way to react to Fernanda's situation. It is about how people cope with different situations and what our expectations are of our partners. I do agree with you in that Jonathan should probably take more time to know what she likes and doesn't like to help her adjust to life in the USA. Luis was a slightly different story because it was wrong for Molly to expect him to babysit HER kids.

I agree. I feel like you can always find something to do if you make the effort. I would take an online class if I were her since I'm assuming that she will want a job once she has a green card. There is so much you can do online today. Or maybe she can learn a new hobby- knitting, painting, yoga, whatever. I'm an introvert so I thrive on time at home!

What amazes me is that Asuelu seems to be somewhat of a ladies' man. I do not find him sexy at all and can't imagine wanting to go to bed with him, even if he seems sweet. Maybe I would with a few cocktails in me, but I'm just not seeing it! Agreed. Being a good realtor is hard work and I would imagine the hours could be rough. I never turn up my nose at any occupation. To do well- whether you are a real estate agent, lawyer, teacher, plumber, waitress, accountant, construction worker, etc.- usually entails hard work.

I suppose everyone handles relationships differently. My husband and I don't and have never checked in with each other to do things like that (before we had kids). I went to happy hour after work many times without telling him, and he did the same. Jonathan doesn't have a constitutional right to go out, but I am a firm believer in each party in a marriage having autonomy. We talk to each other about important issues and always consult each other before buying something significant, but my husband would have no time for me if I whined about him doing things after work on his own (as long as it wasn't every night). Ditto for me. I have also come to realize after watching this show that I am much less sensitive than most women. A lot of stuff just doesn't bother me.

I am with Jonathan in that ridiculous fight. If Fernanda thinks she is old enough to get married, then she needs to act like an adult. Or, maybe he needs to teach her how to be a wife. In my book, a wife doesn't throw a fit just because her husband goes out one night with a few buddies. If she can't handle it yet, then maybe she should still be clubbing at home with her friends and come back when she is a bit wiser and more mature. Jonathan is just dim-witted to think that he can reason with her the same way he could with a woman his age.

Kalani really can't claim ignorance over the birth control thing. She's 30. There are commercials for different birth control options on tv. Or she could spend two minutes looking online. She is in no position to be having a second kid since both parents are unemployed. It's frustrating to watch someone who is so willfully ignorant and irresponsible. Her family clearly has enabled her. If I were in her position, my dad would flat out tell me that I was immature and a poor excuse for an adult. Leida should be counting her lucky stars that Eric's ex-wife is so decent. Fernanda reminded me this episode that she is 19. She just isn't ready to be married yet.

Kalani and her inability to take any responsibility for her actions has been one of the major disappointments for me on this show. In the first episode, I thought that finally we had a normal, responsible, likeable woman on this show. I was so very wrong!

Wow. I kinda envy your wedding traditions. I'm in NJ, and weddings are over the top. I don't think I've been to any that are modest. As someone mentioned, showers are at restaurants, sometimes with open bars, and cost a lot of $$ that bridesmaids pay for. And it is common for bachelorettte parties to be in Mexico or Vegas. I honestly don't understand how so many people expect their friends to fork over such large amounts of money. And at the showers/weddings I've been to, the bridal party gives a gift in addition to paying for everything I just mentioned plus their dress, shoes, hair, and make-up. I once declined an invitation to be in a bridal party because it is just too much.

I disagree with you completely about Tasha. It is not Leida's place to "set boundaries" when she barely even knows Tasha. That's Eric's job as her father. In these scenes, Leida isn't even married yet to Eric. Also, she didn't pay the rent for one month while she was looking for a place, not multiple months. And from what I understand, the apartment was Tasha's and she invited Eric to live with her. Her room was messy...but I lived at college when I was Tasha's age and saw many rooms like that. And if the apartment was Tasha's in the first place, she can get it messy if she wants to. Eric and Ledia can go elsewhere. I had a stepmother who entered my life when I was slightly older than Tasha, and she doesn't insert herself into the relationship between my father and me because it's none of her business and my father and I are both adults and were family long before she came into the picture (She and I have a great relationship...probably because we both know our places.). Leida claims to be from "money" and claims to be very educated- so why does this woman bring no money into her marriage? This season is surely depressing. I don't care about Colt/Debbie/Larissa anymore because Larissa needs to go. Clearly Colt is never going to give her what she wants, the there will be a perpetual power struggle with Debbie. She's blind if she can't see that by now!

Regarding the racist comments made on Ashley and Jay's wedding website- apparently she said on Instagram that they discovered the comments came from one individual who she knows. I think it is some ex-boyfriend of hers who is bitter and quite a jerk!