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  1. I don't know that I'd characterize Max as thinking that El's powers are fun to play with at this point, she's obviously concerned about Billy's safety and is desperate for anything that might help while Mike has no connection to Billy or any of the flayed unlike in previous seasons when he was fine with El using her powers to help Will.

    If Karen had been the second flayed instead of Heather would he still be trying to talk El out of using her powers, or would he be rolling with what looked like the only chance to help his Mom?

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  2. 3 hours ago, kieyra said:

    As an aside, The Magicians on SyFy (which I can’t recommend if you happen to be a “shipper”-prone person, because heartbreak), has lots of magic portal action. It also has a side dimension called “the Poison Room” which looks a lot like the Upside Down, has identical weird floaty shit in the air, and quickly kills humans who spend too much time there.

    (I’m new to Stranger Things, so I don’t know which show did it first. Surely I’m not the first person to bring it up, though.)

    The way the show depicts the Upside Down has always most reminded me of the way the film Constantine depicted Hell as a sort of post apocalyptic mirror version of modern Earth rather than the traditional cavern filled with fire and brimstone.

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  3. On 7/6/2019 at 4:58 PM, MissL said:

    and while I understand Max not wanting Billy to die because she is a good person based on what we SAW of their relationship the extreme sad emotion from her when he died didn’t seem to fit. Maybe if we ever saw kindness in the midst of his torture of her we’d get it but nothing.

    It was rather odd, I'm pretty sure that if someone watched Season 3 without having seen Season 2 they would come away from it thinking that Billy and Max have a pretty normal brother/sister relationship where he's kind of a jerk and she thinks he's gross because he always has girls in his room. Even before she knows that Billy is in peril from the Mindflayer Max seems protective of him.

    From what I gathered I got the impression that the story they were going for is that Season 2 was supposed to be Billy at his absolute worst after whatever triggered the move to Hawkins. Max has a line in Season 2 to the effect of "Billy's always been a jerk, but now he's just angry all the time." After Max drugged and threatened him in the S2 finale he got humbled a bit and reverted back to pre-Hawkins levels instead of the terror he was in S2, which they sort of show at the end of S2 when he looks in on Max getting ready for the dance.

    They probably should have done more to show this, via memories/flashbacks or a scene at the begging of the season, or, uh, just writing him with a few more layers last season.

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  4. 11 hours ago, Ravenya003 said:

    Still, I like that there's a bit of a custody battle for El (or father/boyfriend/daughter love triangle) going on; at the end of season two Mike was pissed that Hopper kept El a secret from him, so this very much feels like Mike asserting himself as alpha male (god I hate that term, but that was totally what was going on). Of course, this backfired hilariously.

    I think the term "custody battle" being used here is accurate, and a pretty good example of why I find the Mike/El relationship to be rather creepy.

    El isn't a normal teenager, she's had almost no social interactions in her life, particularly not with people her own age. It's basically just been Mike (and to an extent the other boys, though none of them seem to spend one on one time with her), and this gives Mike a huge level of influence over her and creates a big power imbalance. That Mike, here, is shown intentionally trying to undermine Hopper as well as keeping El's time interacting with the other kids to a minimum just reinforces this for me.

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  5. TFA explains in broad strokes why Kylo Ren fell, Snoke got to him and influenced him. When Rey turns the mind attack back on him she says that Kylo Ren is afraid of not being as powerful as Darth Vader, which creates the impression that he's generally been afraid of not living up to the legacy/power of his famous family.

    Why Vader became a monster was never important to the OT, because Vader isn't the main character of those films. Lucas manages to convey some depth to Vader with a few lines and a few bits of great cinematography and physical performance from a man in a mask, but never feels the need to go in depth to make his reasons for going down the evil path understandable or sympathetic. This is because in the OT Vader's redemption isn't really about Vader, it's about Luke as a character and the type of Jedi/hero he's grown into. Vader is, ultimately, a supporting character in the OT.

    Why Anakin fell was an important story in the PT, because Anakin is the main character and Lucas was trying to tell the tragic story of the rise and fall of a hero.

    In TFA why Ben Solo fell isn't super important, what's important is that he did fall and the impact it has on other characters. Kylo Ren is a supporting character, not the lead. He's the monster for Rey to overcome, the son for Han to try to save, and the face of his oppression that Finn has to finally take a stand and fight against.

    Why Ben Solo fell and making it sympathetic only becomes important in TLJ because Johnson decided to spend most of the film building up a redemption/romance plot between Rey and Ren, so that he could subvert it in the end to teach all those pretty girls who try to save bad boys a lesson. To do that he, effectively, had to turn Kylo Ren into the main character of the film and throw Luke under the bus to make his redemption look viable because TFA left Kylo Ren in a place where there was no clear path to redemption and no indication that any character involved (most importantly Rey and Ren himself) would be interested in his redemption. At the end of TLJ the Kylo Ren we're left with is very much evil "just cuz".

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  6. On 6/22/2019 at 9:51 AM, Anduin said:

    He changed his tune once he saw the finished product. That's what the haters choose to ignore. I can see how he wouldn't like it initally. On paper, grumpy old Luke rejects the Force and has to be talked back into it, only to die, does sound bad. But yes, it does work well.

    He's gone back and made a few somewhat negative comments about the film since the fervor died down a bit,  in particularly not understanding/agreeing with Luke going into hiding over the Kylo Ren thing. He also fairly recently got dragged on Twitter because he retweeted a photoshop someone did of Luke, Han, and Lando together and called it a missed opportunity.

    IMO it seems like he's never particularly loved Luke's arc in the the movie, but came out in support of the film/Johnson when the outrage was super toxic and people were harassing other cast members over the film. Maybe I'm projecting my own dislike for what the film did with the characters, but I still get the sense that Mark doesn't particularly like what the NT has done with Luke, but didn't want to give the more toxic elements of the fanbase ammo.

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  7. Rewatching the series and I think I find myself really disliking Mike this time around. I know he's going through a lot but he just takes his shit out on people around him, particularly the girls. Everyone remembers how he treats Max in Season 2 for no good reason, but he's a complete asshole to a barely verbal, clearly confused about everything Eleven when she tries to lead them to Will in Season 1 and they find "his" body instead.

    Him fixating on/being in a relationship with a girl who, basically, never had a social interaction before she met him and he took her in just seems like a huge red flag to me as well.

  8. If you're going to end things with Old Man Steve, then Bucky probably should have survived the snap. That way, at the least, we'd know that Steve had been working with Bucky for 5 years and he'd know that Bucky had adjusted after shaking the Winter Soldier programing and was in a relatively good place before he went back to Peggy.

    Also could have got a scene where Tony apologizes to Bucky for the whole trying to murder him thing.

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  9. On 6/3/2019 at 3:17 AM, possibilities said:

    Why???

    To my understanding, old math taught primarily via memorization and basic formulas, and did less to teach the logic behind it. Many kids never developed a true intuitive understanding of the basics, and this was a stumbling block when they moved into more advanced forms of math. They basically taught us shortcuts and hacks first then expected us to figure out the underlying methods on our own.

    The new methods are built around getting kids to understand why the basics work, so they're better prepared for the advanced math. This means teaching in a way that makes basic math initially seem more complex because they're trying to teach kids to understand the underlying relationships between numbers and make doing any type of math more intuitive in the future.

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  10. 11 hours ago, VCRTracking said:

    No, they just know Tony had seen video of his mother being strangled to death and the guy who did it was standing right in front of him. This topic has been debated since Civil War came out but the fact is even most viewers may not like what Tony did but they understand it. The reason they can forgive that and not Bruce Wayne being a total dick in Batman V Superman is that from the beginning, that unlike those characters Tony has always been portrayed as a deeply flawed character, whose morals were always out of whack.

    Captain America The Winter Soldier was great because it was based on an already great story-line in the comic written by Ed Brubaker and they only changed a few things.

    People "understand" it because they buy into the emotion of the scene. What Tony does is clearly wrong, it's attempted murder of a man that Tony KNOWS was acting under mind control at the time, but people buy into the emotion of the moment so they don't think about it or will even excuse it. If you're like me and don't buy into the emotion of that moment, then that scene is just horrible and basically ruins Tony as a character.

    With Cap in Endgame the writers, again, bank on the viewers buying into the emotion of the scene. Their expectation is that seeing Steve and Peggy dancing will cause such a strong positive emotional response that they won't think about anything else.

    It's the same basic formula they used in Winter Soldier (Endgame makes sure to hammer home the importance of Peggy to Steve throughout the film, in the same way that Civil War hammers home Tony's relationship with his parents), this time they just miscalculated their audience's response and investment in Steve and Peggy as a couple and a greater percentage of the audience didn't buy into the emotion and are really upset about it.

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  11. 44 minutes ago, swanpride said:

    I don't think that anything which happened in Civil War ruined the character at all. If anything it rescued him from stagnation by introducing his relationship to Peter. RDJ has done some of his best work in the franchise in Civil War and Infinity War.

    He repeatedly tried to murder an innocent man for, like, 20 minutes straight.

    It should be a character destroying moment, the only reason that it's not is that every subsequent MCU film just ignores that this outright evil act ever happened.

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  12. 5 hours ago, swanpride said:

    I got a little bit the impression that the moment the Russos and Marcus and McFeely got Tony to play with, they just didn't care about Steve and his entourage anymore. It's the only explanation I have why everything they do with Tony in Endgame feels so right and the perfect conclusion to his story, while everything related to Steve feels like they have forgotten what they themselves wrote about him.

    These are the same people that practically ruined Tony's entire character in Civil War in order to make the story work. Ended his relationship with Pepper off camera, Had him do a complete 180 on the government (after the Vice President of the US was one of the villains in IM 3) and work with Ross. And, most egregiously, had him outright trying to murder Bucky at the conclusion of the film.

    The problem is that they don't really write to character, they write to plot points they want to hit, which makes them effective at these huge crossover films with so many differnet characters, but makes characters and their histories a secondary concern for them.

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  13. 17 hours ago, TVSpectator said:

    Okay so again, all they stated is that you can't change your past. So if they are building the time machine in like 2022/2023 and we can all Timeline 1. According to Tony all of what pop-culture states about going to the past to changed the future amounts to it being all false (so the line, "Back to the Future lied to me" implies that you can't change your past because the outcome will be the same). So you can't change the past. So we are still in Timeline 1 when the Avengers came back to bring everyone back and Tony Snapped Thanos and his army. So when Steve went to bring the Stones back (and their back-up plan was to bring back the Stones the moment they took the Stones out of TImeline 1). So Steve is still in Timeline 1 and believes you can't change things. What happens is what is supposed to happen and he goes back to Peggy and has a life with her. He later comes back to Falcon (as an old man) to give him his shield. Implying again that they were all in the same timeline. 

    I think it's the opposite, Steve would believe that he can change anything, Steve should believe that his going back in time to Peggy has already created another timeline based on what is shown in the film, and, as such, should not feel particularly bound to try to preserve the many horrible events he knows are happening (such as Bucky being enslaved, Hydra growing inside Shield, and Howard's murder). That Steve is able to go back in time and be Peggy's husband and still end up on that bench in Timeline 1 is an oddity within the Time Travel rules of the film.

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  14. 40 minutes ago, TVSpectator said:

    But according to the movie they couldn't change the past anyway because the rule of time travel, for this franchise now seems to be,  you can't change the past (well this was something they all believed in any way) but they decided to have The Ancient One say that if you remove one Infinity Stone you run the risk of creating an alternative timeline filled with monsters. Which okay, why do that if you can't change the past (and The Ancient One was talking about time branching off into another, very bad, timeline, btw)? Also if you can't change the past then how did all of the Loki scenes from after the Battle of New York actually happened? It was cool and a bit funny to see Loki take back the Space Stone, but overall I am thinking did they actually lose Loki in the original timeline or is this an actual new timeline or what?

    You can change the past as much as you want, the issue is that nothing you change in the past will have any affect on you or your future that you traveled to the past from, because changing the past creates a new timeline that branches off at the moment you changed whatever you changed.

    If the Avengers went back to Wakanda 5 years ago and killed Thanos before he could snap it would not change the fact that he snapped away half the life in the universe in the future the Avengers came from. Those people would still be gone, there would just now be a new timeline where the Snap never happened, if the 2023 Avengers returned to the moment they left their time, they'd find that nothing had changed. Both of those timelines would exist. This is why they had to find a way to undo the Snap in their present rather than just preventing it from happening.

    If Hulk takes the Time Stone he creates a new timeline where Doctor Strange doesn't have the time stone to face Dormammu, Dormammu would win and everyone in that timeline would end up in the Dark Dimension. This would change nothing in the mainstream MCU future they came from, but it would create a new timeline where everyone is doomed to a fate worse than death. This is why they have to return the Time Stone at the end of the movie to stop the new timeline from branching off, because otherwise they'd just be killing one Universe to save half the people from their universe, and that's just as evil as anything Thanos did.

    Likewise when Loki takes the Space Stone and escapes in 2012 it creates a branch timeline where Loki escaped, this, again having no impact on the main MCU timeline that they came from. Though it's certainly possible that part of Steve's pruning mission at the end was capturing Loki and returning him and the time stone to the moments right after he escaped. (Though given that a Loki TV series is happening, this is probably not the case).

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    Overall what I liked the best was Cap's ending. Call me a softie for his romance with Peggy (which they never forgot, cough Betty Ross/Bruce Banner, cough) nor acted like it was nothing to Steve nor the times we saw Peggy (assuming that Agent Carter IS MCU canon). Or even retcon out of existence (cough, Betty Ross/Bruce Banner, cough) and I can understand what they did there. I have assumed that Steve just went back in time and returned all of the Infinity Stones and then traveled back to the later 1940s and/or early 1950s and "retired" with Peggy. Becoming her secret husband (that we were kind of introduced in The Winter Soldier, but they never said who she married and was a big mystery) and fathered 2 or 3 kids with her. I like to think that this was more or less what he was supposed to have done and not creating a new timeline but something that was supposed to have happened. Although, that also implies that when Steve kissed Sharon he was either kissing his (now) great-niece and/or possible granddaughter (and I am aware of the fan theory that Peggy's "niece/nephew" could actually be her kids and a few things do kind of line up with it in Civil War. Like how Sharon said that Peggy was the first one to buy her a gun holster when her parents weren't too happy about. That to me screams more like a grandmother than grand-aunt defiance, in my opinion. Not to mention that in the show Agent Carter, it was stated that Peggy's only sibling died in WWII presumably without leaving behind any kids)

    The redacted M. Carter case file in Season 2 of Agent Carter and Thompson being shot over it at the end of the season, implies that Peggy's brother might still be alive after his apparent death and it probably would have been the main story in Season 3.

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  15. 8 hours ago, Danny Franks said:

    But they didn't have to. Thanos, despite what he claimed, wasn't inevitable. There was no need to preserve him in any timeline, like there was a need to preserve the Infinity Stones.

    The timeline where Thanos jumps from, into 2023, will be a very different place. Possibly a better place, but possibly a worse (if the usual time travel theory of 'get rid of one threat and a different one will emerge proves true). In his timeline, Ronan the Accuser will wonder 'why can't I get in touch with my boss any more? Quill will wake up on Morag and should find the Stone/orb back in place. He may still meet Rocket and Groot, if Yondu puts out the bounty on him. And if they end up being caught on  Zandar, they may meet Drax, although the likelihood is that he'd take no interest in them without Gamora being present.

    There are three basic theories of time travel in movies and books, that I'm aware of:

    1. The Back to the Future theory, where everything you change in the past will be reflected in the future, but you'll know things are different, so you can keep going back to try and 'fix' events.

    2. A variation on that, but the things you've changed become your past as well, so you never know they were different. The Twelve Monkeys TV show used this (sort of). Both 1. and 2. fall victim to paradoxes and causal loops, where things become inevitable and you can end up wiping out existence.

    3. Divergent timelines, where anything you change doesn't affect your own present day at all. This is the theory that Avengers: Endgame follows. And it's by far the simplest one to display on screen and in books, unless you're interested in showing those divergent timelines.

    There's also the predetermination theory. Time travel changes nothing because the time travel was always destined to happened and there's no version of the timeline where it did not. The third Harry Potter uses this version of time travel where certain events that happen earlier in the book/film are revealed to have been caused by future versions of Harry and Hermione secretly traveling back in time.

    This film tries to mesh together Divergent Timelines with Predetermination, so that if you don't actually change anything then no new timeline is formed so it's possible for Steve to have always been Peggy's Husband (at least according to the writers) and that's how he ends up on the bench at the end of the film.

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  16. To quote Time Travel expert Professor Hubert Farnsworth:

    "Your grandfather? Stay away from him, you dim-witted monkey! You mustn't interfere with the past. Don't do anything that affects anything, unless it turns out you were supposed to do it. In which case, for the love of God, don't not do it!"

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  17. I've decided that the only thing that makes sense is that: 1. Widow was the one who assigned the missions. 2. Gamora told Widow what she suspected/knew about the Soul Stone test. 3. Widow specifically picked herself and Hawkeye for that mission with the intent to sacrifice herself and told no one else knowing that they "don't trade lives", and any surprise she showed was just her being a super spy.

    I think this is the only way to explain serial killer Hawkeye being brought back into the fold, and the two of them being chosen for a space mission on an unknown planet.

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