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Jesse Rath is a great addition to the cast as an actor, but I like him even more for his rather relentless social media updates and promotion of the show.
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Thought about posting this is the RIse of Skywalker thread about some of the reviews, but figured it was more fitting here. Also, I won't be seeing RoS until Sunday ... so:
I'm not too surprised by the reviews saying the new movie was trying to do a lot. There was always going to be a ton of ground to cover in Rise of Skywalker.
Does any character who played a major role in TFA end up in a markedly different place at the end of Jedi from where where they were at the end of Awakens?
Luke and Snoke are killed off, but they were largely absent as on screen presences in TFA.
Kylo Ren has the most advancement of any character in TLJ, he becomes the top leader of TFO by killing Snoke instead of the #2 guy, his motivation changes a bit, he goes from wanting to destroy the Republic to rebuild the empire to ... wanting to destroy the Resistance so he can build his own version of the Empire, or maybe he just wants to destroy everything? I'm not sure that the end result is actually all that different in practical terms.
Finn gets a girlfriend, maybe,? So now he's not a possible love interest for Rey or Poe?
Rey is the young jedi ready to advance her training and defeat The First Order. Ren is the evil force user who is the on the leader of The First Order and prone to big loud temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way. Poe is a great pilot and a trusted member of The Resistance. Finn is the guy who learned to fight for what he loves after trying to run away. The Resistance is a rag tag group trying to fight The First Order without the Republic's help.
TLJ introduces a bunch of struggles for the characters then resolves them by the end and ties them with a neat bow in a way that leaves them all the same people they were before the movie started. It creates an illusion of growth and advancement, but it's ultimately a filler episode that reinforces who the characters are and doubles down on the situation they were already in.
This sort of thing is fine if it's an episode of a TV show, or if it's a marvel movie and there are another half dozen films in this phase. But TFA was the middle act of a trilogy and, in that role, it advanced almost nothing from the first act in favor of presenting a moral about learning from failure, leaving ROS to have to work as both the second and third acts of the story.
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3 hours ago, andromeda331 said:
No not all of them were bad. Some of them were really good. Given Owen and Bail more to do and more of connection would have good. Bail was super important in the rebellion although it never really comes up in the movies. Naboo and Alderaan are really similar both peaceful, Alderaan had no weapons, Naboo had no standing army only volunteer. I laughed really hard at Palpatine showing up as Anakin got kicked out of the Jedi Order not only was he offering him a job but he brought a banner with him that read Congratulations New Promotion on it. That was oddly prepared and oddly nice.
The prequals had a lot of really good ideas. Badly executed and they really needed to plot out all three movies. There was so much they'd have to do. Introduce the Jedi, the Council, Anakin, Padme, Palpatine, Separatists, Dooku and Maul while also setting them up, showing the problems, conflict, Palpatine manipulating everything and how it went so wrong. Similar to the problem with Anakin. They had so much to do and only three movies to get it done.
I agree that having Bail and Lars be a bigger part of the story was a good idea. I'm not sure that having Owen making a speech where he basically explains the themes of the film to the audience, however, is a great idea.
The Phantom Menace is just a poor start for the pacing of the trilogy. You could pretty easily just merge the 10 minutes of plot important stuff from TPM into the beginning of Attack of the Clones and free up an entire film in the trilogy.
I know a lot of people list Attack as the worst Star Wars film, but TPM is the worst for me, it's just incredibly boring with the only real exception being scenes that include Maul.
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18 hours ago, Bill1978 said:
This guy does a really good job of creating a more engaging story for the prequels using Lucas' blueprint of plot points and characters. He does carry over the changes he made in TPM through to the other movies.
I've watched these before, I'm not saying his ideas are bad (though some of them I was kind of iffy about), but you can give an outline of the same prequel trilogy that we all saw and make it sound like an interesting and compelling look at the fall of the Jedi Order and Republic without changing any of the plot points. Most of the failings of the prequels are in the execution of the ideas and themes by the writing and directing filling out that outline.
I think the most interesting change he proposes (which, in an example of how hard writing a coherent story can be, he didn't figure out until the Ep 2 video and then announced as a retroactive change to the previous video) was changing the events on Naboo to Alderaan and making Padme the sister of Bail Organa.
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On 12/11/2019 at 1:29 PM, VCRTracking said:
It's weird though seeing comments from people who insist that the 1984 movie wasn't a comedy. Like, what? They really think of it as a serious horror movie with some jokes!
I think Ghostbusters in interesting in that regard. It really does function very well as a horror-action film even beyond the comedy, the main plot is mostly played straight and builds real stakes for the characters which causes the viewer to invest in them. If you were to compare Ghostbusters to some of the MCU films, for example, the tone wouldn't feel out of place.
This is what sets it apart from the 2016 version IMO, which is a good comedy with a lot of funny people in it, but never really builds the serious elements and stakes in the main plot in the same way in spite of having a huge big budget CGI filled final fight scene at the end.
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On 12/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, biakbiak said:
If this was in real life they wouldn’t tell the school because like a lot of private schools UPenn requires all first year students to live on campus and obviously wouldn’t take a check from Geoff.
Right, they wouldn't tell the school. I'm guessing that Barry (or Murray) is still the one directly paying UPennn for the dorm room, and Barry is still on the books as the one living in the room with Erica, but Geoff is giving Barry money on the side to cover his half of the fees without the school knowing.
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I'd guess that Geoff is paying Barry's share, and Barry is still "officially" Erica's dorm mate.
Maybe they'll do a Three's Company style plot in a future episode where Geoff has to convince some school official that he's Barry so he can keep living there.
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On 12/3/2019 at 10:37 PM, Cthulhudrew said:
I thought that was the nameless ASA guy from this week and last who seemed the most reticent about all the malevolent deeds his organization has been up to. (They really need to give that guy a name).
They called him "Grayle" last week.
My favorite thing is this episode is that Jeff needing his suit to avoid hurting himself with his own powers actually came into play to take down the power copying ASA guy.
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I've always been convinced that Sifo-Dyas was supposed to be a fake as part of Palpy's plan, but then Lucas changed his mind or just let the EU people do whatever they wanted, so we ended up with a Jedi Master and member of the Council who Obi Wan had somehow never heard of.
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On 12/2/2019 at 10:56 PM, vibeology said:
When your 15, you tend to have a pretty small circle. Sure, it's just state senate, but you can bet the kids in his school will know. He's got a few years of high school left. That's a long time when you're 15. Protecting him was the right thing to do.
I just can't imagine that I would have cared if this story broke about one of my classmates when I was a teen. Especially since the person he thought was his father has been out of the picture for his entire life.
Honestly given the long term home situation we were presented with I'm more surprised that this kid hasn't been dealing with all sort of questions and rumors about his Mom and Uncle and wouldn't welcome everyone knowing he has a father out there.
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On 11/26/2019 at 11:21 PM, Lantern7 said:
Well, Freeland is still the most miserable place in the Arrowverse, but this didn't feel that hard of an episode. I mean, it was still painful in places. I think the hero of this episode was whomever decided to show Khalil getting his implant ripped out, and NOT include the "I always said I'd have your back!" line from Tobias. That's restraint right there.
Oh, and Odell is going to make a full recovery. Now I feel like a jerk for celebrating last week.
I didn't notice . . . but really, is there ANYBODY from the occupying force that doesn't only have the one dimension, if that?
One of the ASA soldiers, Grayle, told the others to leave an old man alone when they were going house to house and didn't look happy with the ASA tactics/brutality, so there might be one in the mix with a dimension.
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3 hours ago, sinkwriter said:
I think the big issue for the 15-year-old kid is that his life would never be his own again. In this day and age, he would never escape being in the news, being hounded, and being known as the kid whose real dad is a gay politician who once had an affair with his student. They always say, be careful what you put out there online. The media certainly wouldn't be willing to leave him alone, and even after it died down in immediate news, it would be forever viewable as info on the internet. The kid's 15. That would be pretty damn awful, and I had no problem with Dex trying to find a way to protect his identity.
I would agree if he'd been running for the US senate, but on the state level? I doubt that most people even know the name of their state senators outside of maybe the one from their district, much less pay attention to their scandals that come out during a campaign.
The family also seemed to live well outside of the city/district, it's hard to imagine the whole thing being more than a minor thing in the local media that would go away after the election.
The kid finding out his mother lied to him about his father his entire life would have the bigger impact, but he deserves to know the truth and have the chance to know his father.
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The whole political plot and the reactions to it were weird.
No one is bothered that a teacher had sex with a student, but are that a gay man had sex with an adult woman 15 years ago before he was out?
The politician, who won Dex over by being such a good person, isn't particularly bothered that he has a 15 year old child that he's never met and is more concerned with the impact it'll have on his campaign?
Emma is really clear that it's been just her, her brother, and her kid for 15 years, the brother refers to things as "our house" and "our family" but then he sells them out (as per Dex) for ... state level politics money? I mean, I could use $50,000 or whatever they were offering, but it isn't exactly retire to a private island and ditch the family you apparently co-own a home with money. This dude put in 15 years helping his sister and nephew when he didn't have to, and he just turned for a not particularly life changing amount of cash? Granted, the more logical conclusion would be that Dex told them the story was coming out no matter what and their only choice was to tell the truth, so they sold the story themselves to get out ahead of it, but that's not the conclusion that Dex reached.
Of course, Emma, her brother, and her kid seem like they're supposed to be a parallel to Dex, Grey, and Ansel, so it's probably just supposed to be foreshadowing some dubious decision Grey makes in a future episode, or maybe that Dex is going to assume the worst about Grey.
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On 11/25/2019 at 10:53 PM, nuraman00 said:
If I had to pick one show in addition to Supergirl to watch, between Batwoman, The Flash, or Arrow, where I wouldn't be as lost on references to past episodes in those series, which one should it be?
I'm a bit confused by the question: Are you asking which show to go back and watch old episodes of so you won't be lost in the crossover? Or Which individual non-supergirl episode of the crossover to watch where you won't be as lost on references to previous events on that show?
If it's the first, I'd say that Arrow is most heavily building toward and laying groundwork for the crossover this season, the central 'god' figure in the crossover has been in several episodes and has Oliver and others doing tasks that are supposed to have some impact.
If you're asking the latter, then it's really then I don't know that there's a good option. In the past all the crossovers have been very heavily centered on the Flash/Arrow Earth, and even the Supergirl episodes of the crossovers have more heavily featured the Flash/Arrow supporting casts rather than the Supergirl ones.
If you're asking which show is easiest to catch up on this season of before the Xover, then it's Batwoman as it's in its first season, though it's probably going to be the show that has the absolute least ties to the crossover of all 4.
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Obviously it's rumor, but it was pretty consistently out there that things were bad between SMG and AH/EC the last few years. EC alluded to "political' stuff on set in interviews after the series ended IIRC.
SMG also reportedly really didn't like Buffy's storylines in the last few seasons and was frustrated with Joss and the darker and less heroic direction the show went.
So it was probably both rather heavily weighing on her at the time.
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So this was one of the first things I wanted to watch on Disney+, but ... it's not there?
The crossover episode with Hercules is on there though, so that's something.
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Emma was pretty darn high and mighty about the boyfriend that she tried to trick into raising her kid after she cheated on him with her college professor not deserving to be a father.
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13 hours ago, joanne3482 said:
I thought it was interesting that the Mandalorian's instructions were to bring baby Yoda back alive, but IG-11's instructions were to bring it back dead. Makes me think there are two different groups looking for it. Also interesting, it seems like that entire group of bad guys were there for the purpose of protecting baby Yoda, like they went to this place out in the boonies to hide it.
Werner Herzog gave the Mandalorian the option to bring it back dead too, it seemed like he actually wanted it dead but the scientist guy wants it alive.
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The Sandcrawler sequence reminded me of the Super Star Wars game on the SNES where Luke has to fight his way up the side and into a Sandcrawler to rescue a stolen R2D2.
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On 11/14/2019 at 4:28 AM, Amarsir said:
As I recall, that arc started with us not sure if he was serious or sarcastic. Then he got a girlfriend and became serious. Then he started scheming to hide his past and the whole thing became a facade. Then in the next season he's just abusive, manipulative, and his old self.
My take at the time was that Matt & Trey started without knowing where they were going and ended up wanting us to accept that he'd just been lying. Which doesn't really track but I guess it makes more sense than believing he respected girls in the first place.
I think they knew where they were going with it. Cartman saw women "taking over", was afraid of what that would mean for him, and tried to brand himself as an ally so he'd be on the 'winning' side. So he was genuine in that he really was trying to say and do the right things and wasn't trying to be sarcastic, but his deeper motive was always pure Cartman self interest rather than any sort of genuine belief in equality or empathy for women or understanding of the issues. Which is why his support was incredibly shallow platitudes and just repeatedly telling everyone that women are funny and smart.
They were always using Cartman as a satire or parody of people/companies who brand themselves as feminist because it's trendy and because they think they'll get something out of it, but don't even bother to put in real effort and just spout empty slogans and blind praise and attacks on people who aren't 'woke'.
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This season is crazy, did Principal Dogfood make a face turn? Are the Markovians even really evil on this show or are they just a convenient scapegoat for Odell and the ASA?
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1 hour ago, ljenkins782 said:
Actually, there was a throwaway mention of Lily having her own credit card in an episode, but yeah, it doesn't really track that they'd have no idea.
And I continue to be baffled as to why the show goes out of its way to highlight Mitch and Cam not knowing anything about their daughter. It's not actually funny and I just don't get why the writing is so fixated on that particular theme.
That aside, I have to say that I've enjoyed the last few episodes of the show. It's nowhere near what it was at its peak, but it's been more enjoyable that the slog that was Season 10.
"One other thing - wasn't Bill's whole appeal for Alex that he was hot in bed? He was such a prude in this episode that I have a hard time believing he was ever a great lover. He seemed to think it was an appalling act of disrespect for someone to ask their partner for a racy pic. Dude, get over it."
I didn't think he was objecting to the idea of a pic, he was objecting to the phrasing that "Creepy Craig" used to ask for it and how it wasn't anything that he himself would have ever said, which seemed like a fair point to me. If you're involved with someone, you know their style even over text, so for her to not even pick up on the difference was the issue.
I liked the character of Bill, but the actor's voice drove me bananas. Was that a put-on voice or is that really how he speaks?
He speaks pretty similarly on the Netflix Series American Vandal and I've seen a few interviews with him. It seems like his real voice, maybe slightly exaggerated.
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On 10/28/2019 at 7:53 PM, SimoneS said:
I just saw that DC is doing a Superman/Lois Lane tv show on The CW. Why? Why? Greed, I know, but still... Why doesn't DC just give Superman a two year rest and reboot the movie franchise. Instead it is going along with a tv show with two bad actors as leads on THE CW which lacks the diversity that DC desperately needs in the long run. UGH!
I've really liked Tyler Hoechlin's Superman/Clark on Supergirl and thought it was a fun upbeat take on the character after the dark and bleak Snyder films, so I can't complain about them giving him his own show.
I'm hoping that if it's a success maybe it will convince some people at WB that the next Superman film doesn't have to be dark and angry.
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8 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:
Speaking of Jeph Loeb it seems kind of crazy that the guy who wrote the story that inspired a lot of The Dark Knight, was in charge of so many crappy tv shows.
I read his runs on Superman/Batman, Hulk, and Ultimates, so it's really not that crazy.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
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Finn was my favorite character in TFA and he was my favorite here too. Finn finding other storm troopers who rebelled and deserted, that they had a shared connection to the force. That got me emotional.