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Luann is that chick that gets into a relationship and believes everything her man tells her. Not that I would be shocked about Ramona and Sonja lying or exaggerating, I just thought it was funny that Luann is so convinced that his relationships with both women were extremely brief because Tom said so. Like no man has ever downplayed his relationship with another woman to his current one. Lol. Honestly I think Luann is probably really falling in love and that's great, but I also think she's feeling reeeeal validated for snatching a rich normal dude. Let's be real. Her mentioning his terrace on the Upper East Side and Bethenny's expression, like, so what bitch? No more pirates and Rey's and Luann is gonna let you know. Honestly considering they've only been together for a few weeks at this point, and the fact that this dude has apparently fucked half of their friend circle, I think it's understandable that the women don't yet take their relationship seriously. Luann needs to get over herself. Although do I think there is a chance that Sonja and Ramona are a bit jealous? Perhaps.

Yup. Ariana has ALWAYS been a smug bitch. It was just overshadowed by Kristen's craziness. Regarding the sex debate...I think lack of sex in long term relationships is not uncommon. That doesn't mean it's always healthy, though. And what we've seen on this show of Katie and Schwartz discussing their sex woes neither seems to be totally okay with their situation. I do think there is some genuine love and affection there but mostly I think they are both settling with what's comfortable. I get Katie's discomfort over Lala's toplessness but I also don't think Lala was being an attention whore about it (for once) so it was really a non issue. Newsflash, girl, your man has definitely seen plenty of titties that aren't yours. They're just boobs. I don't think Brittany is so dumb that she believes Jax' lies but I do think that she is dumb enough to not care in order to date a z-lister and be on TV. It does drive me crazy that Jax consistently gets away with being a total piece of shit. He will never change. Oh and I'm partly convinced that the Shay storyline was either fake as fuck or heavily exaggerated. Like maybe he was partying too much and dealing with depression but he was never legitimately addicted to any substances. Because from everything I understand about addiction it doesn't work at all like what's been portrayed. I will say I do find it believable that Scheana would be so stupid and selfish as to not understand the full weight of what being an addict is.

Or a few eps back during gay pride when Jax was obviously drunk and high behind the bar and Lisa laughed it off. She (and Andy) seem to have this weird affinity for Jax that I don't understand at all.

Nose job for sure, but I'm not convinced of the lip injections. You really can't compare smiling pictures to non smiling ones...I speak from experience. Anyway, I'd be the last to recommend a teenager have plastic surgery, but Bella really is super beautiful now, so...

So on Erika's "Before They Were Housewives" pictures she looks lovely (http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/before-they-were-housewives-erika-girardi/item/10790606), but decidedly less barbie doll-ish. In fact some of these pics appear to be at least a decade old yet she somehow looks older than she does now. I kinda wonder when this transition from understated lawyers wife to dance barbie occurred.

A tad late to the conversation but how in the world is mocking someone's accent, particularly in reference to an offensive stereotype, NOT racist? I normally like LisaR and her obnoxiousness but she was just off base with that. And just because she has known the waxer forever and considers her a friend does not mean they are on equal footing. This woman is still waxing assholes (literally and figuratively, apparently) after 17 years, she is probably not in any type of place of power. I wish people would be more open minded with these types of discussions instead of acting like someone being called racist is the wooooooorst thing everrrrr, how do you insinuate that, I have black friends!!!111!! Give me a freaking break, if you don't want to be called racist don't say racist shit.

Kristen is definitely on no moral high ground but she has actually been put through the wringer for her actions unlike the rest of these assholes. Ariane being being unbearably smug and unlikeable has also worked to Kristen's benefit. And the fact that without her batshit ass this show would be incredibly boring.

The lack of Eva Marie and her lame drama was nice. Daniel was being a dick to Nikki and I hate how Brie never stands up for her sister. It seems to me that Brie and Nikki are more alike than they are different...I doubt Brie is itching to drive around in a Lambo but I'm sure she wouldn't mind having thousands of dollars worth of clothes if her husband weren't so appalled by excess. She doesn't seem nearly as money hungry as Nikki but I remember last season it kind of came across as her settling for less than she wanted because of Bryan (iirc).Brie and Nikki both strike me as people willing to mold to whatever their significant other is into. Paige and Alicia are crazy immature. But somehow still entertaining and likable. Am I the only one that can't stand TJ? I know this shit is scripted, and Nattie is always doing ridiculous shit...but he is seriously such a freaking sour puss.

Thank you. Ryan is probably lazy and entitled, but that's due to Tamra, not his generation. Tired of this "get off my lawn" rhetoric that is painfully out of touch with the reality most young adults face nowadays.

I agree. I kind of hope there was a scene of this we weren't shown (I doubt it). Kristen was so awkward and unnecessarily bitchy in her approach at AOA but it's kind of strange how she's somehow being portrayed as the villain here. She was justified in her anger at Bethenny and Bethenny could've easily set the record straight if she wanted to. Of course, Bethenny is way too cool to care about Kristen, or whatever. Whoever said in another thread that Kristen is the new Alex is so right, lol.

Late, but this is exactly how I feel about Carole! Obviously, everyone is entitled to their interpretations and opinions, but frankly I find the way Carole's words are picked apart to be bizarre. I agree with not taking her 100% seriously, and I don't think Carole takes herself seriously on this show at all. I think she enjoys playing up a character and poking fun at the whole circus that is Real Housewives. I can see how this may across with an air of superiority, but I don't think that Carole really thinks she is sooooo much better than any of these woman at all. Obviously, she is a participant of the show and friends with most of them. Her 'dig' at Luanne was not that big of a deal. These woman make small digs at each other constantly. At the time of filming, Carole and Luanne were very friendly with each other (pre twitter Adam gate). Her comment about strippers was obviously a joke at the expense of journalists. And god forbid she comment on having a hot body. I don't get that more people are offended over a woman having confidence in herself than people commenting about how grossly skinny she is or how ugly. Carole is obviously no fucking supermodel rubbing her hotness in everyone's face, I'm sure she is aware of this fact, god forbid an average, older woman have confidence and feel hot. Her Carrie routine is a little twee for me, and a touch try hard, but honestly there's nothing hateable about it. I appreciate for Carole for having fun with this show, even if she seems to be dumbing herself down a bit (that editor meeting). And I find it a lot more enjoyable to watch than a really sad character like Sonja.

Wtf is a "pharmapsychologist"? Was Sonja confused or just embarrassed to admit she sees a psychiatrist? Either way her delusion and inner ugliness were truly displayed this ep.

The tweet was a joke. I don't think Carole should even engage Luann tbh. My conspiracy theory side thinks this drama could all be for a storyline, because it doesn't really make sense that Luann seemed cool with Carole until the last episode aired.

The niece feeling some type of way is completely irrational IMO (from what we know of the story, anyway) so I don't blame Carole for getting defensive and saying that she doesn't care about her feelings. Your aunts friend that you've hung out is dating your ex, whom is still your friend...that is kind of an awkward dynamic, but there's no real reason to be hurt over it. You break up with someone...down the line, they make take up with someone you have connections to or have met. It's not like Carole and this girl were close friends or even friends at all just because they had hung out before. LotusFlower, I agree with the thought that the niece may not be over Adam. I can't imagine why else she would be so bothered by who her ex is fucking. And I imagine she went off on Luann for introducing them or w/e so now Luann feels like she has to stand up for her niece, hence her going crazy on Twitter. I agree with others that Kristen is useless but I do love her fashion. And make-up. She is honestly an attractive women...why did she settle for Josh? Also, in her defense, she seemed to turn on John when he turned around and grabbed her hips/ass area. Sure, she started the grinding, but I can understand being taken aback by someone grabbing you in that area. Also, she was probably drunk and didn't realize how gross the whole thing was until it was too late.

Can we talk for a second about that "weave commercial" or whatever the fuck that was? That was quite a misstep from the producers and/or Andy.