SwordQueen

Exactly. Kim does not want compassion, pity, sympathy, or to hear "I'm sorry" from anyone. She wants no acknowledgement of her non-struggle at all. Any acknowledgement forms cracks in the shaky and fragile mask that she wears, even the congratulatory kind, because she knows deep down she's full of shit. And you know, I get it, I totally do. I once had an experience that I still find unnerving because it really shook my foundation and made me realize how not-recovered I really was for it to have affected me the way that it did. Eating disorders and substance abuse is not all that different from one another and I can relate to a lot of these mind-traps. What I can't relate to is her hateful, hurtful treatment of others and complete lack of self-awareness. I don't get that, at all. eta: And, how long, exactly, is a PTV day?! LOL I want my like button back!

No, Mamba, you've got it all wrong. Kyle is The Evil, who forced her dear hearted sister to perform circus tricks before the cameras, because evil reasons. She didn't protect poor Lamby from anything. Man, can you imagine what the camera crew has seen and heard over the years? Now, them, I feel empathy for!

I think LVP knows exactly how she became the focus, thanks to one Ms. Glanville whose true BFFs are the tabloids. lol Brandi really needs to learn how not to be so obvious with this shit.

Agreed. They've been shelving footage of a wasted Kim for years now. And they've had to make plenty of special accommodations for her drunk ass. So, if the article is true, which it sounds like a bunch of bull to me, I'd say that they'd want to oust her for the dog and not because she's, once again, un-sober.

Yeah, no glee from me, but I'm grateful for all of the levity here. I'm also relived that this, the outing of her non-sobriety, wasn't extended for too long, for her family's sake. Having to pretend that all is well is exhausting and I'm sure they are hoping that *this time*, Kim will really want to help herself. I'm just so sad for her kids, who by Kim's own admission, have dealt with this their whole lives. They are still so young -- I really hope Kim chooses them over her vices and gets her shit together.

I'm mentally liking so many posts. Boy that article sounds like Brandi is in need of some attention, with all of that LVP-blaming. lol My thing is this. If you wouldn't stay in a relationship with someone who was physically beating you, why would you stay in a relationship with someone who was emotionally beating you? Abusive, toxic people are abusive and toxic in a variety of ways and psychological abuse is so insidious because it's often a part of people's every day life that they will put up with it because they don't even realize it's happening until one day they look in the mirror and they're so emotionally battered, that they don't know how they got that way. Kim is psychologically abusive. She may be suffering, but she takes it out on other people, just the same way someone who is beating the crap out of someone or sexually abusing someone might be hurting inside, as well, but choose to take their feelings out on others. But it's not OK. There's no reason in the world why a person would choose to beat on and abuse another that makes it all OK and the idea that one should "stand by their man", so to speak, in the face of abuse is, to me, a very unhealthy and dangerous one. Kyle has every right to back away from Kim, as does the rest of her family. They have the right to be happy, even if Kim chooses not to try to be happy, herself. That doesn't make them bad people or any less able to empathize with the pain of another. No one can do anything to save Kim. That's up to Kim and looks like she's making her choice. Personally I have no respect for anyone who cannot accept responsibility for themselves and acknowledge themselves for who they are and I can't allow myself to give empathy to anyone who chooses to be a hateful person towards others rather than admit that who they hate is themselves. Addiction is a bitch and I have much compassion for the hell that is this illness, but I do not have compassion for all addicts.

I don't know how you all embed YT videos in here, so I'm just gonna leave these here. lol This is an interesting video about Narcissists from someone who self-identifies as one. Talking about why Narcissists don't feel that their actions count. https://youtu.be/uEvS4Z6eE-Y And another is about how Narcissists use your secrets against you*. This one reminds me of Lisa R -- she talks too damn much. https://youtu.be/eyvqkbvOAHo *Good catch, LIMOM!

I picture Kim on the floor and kicking more like Stuart from MADTV.

Oh, it's definitely a huge struggle to ask for and accept help. No doubt. Recovery and responsibility are not for the weak, and just the idea of losing ones vice(s) can be terrifying.. It's hard fucking work and it never ends, either. It's a lifelong, continuous process of self-accountability and effort put into achieving personal goals. For me, the difference with Kim verses many others is that Kim has taken all of that fear and pain and generated so much anger that she then propels outward at the very people who want to help her. Not only that but she refuses to accept responsibility for the things she does and she's never remorseful. People, when not in their right mind, do often hurt others. But there's doing something in the moment and being unaware and there's being told afterward and not giving a shit while blaming the other person. This isn't Kim's first relapse rodeo, either. She should be aware by now of at least some of her triggers and her typical behaviors -- and she is -- we heard her tell the other HW that she goes into hiding and isolates when she's using. So we know she has some awareness. It's that she's a Narcissist and therefore doesn't have the ability to empathize with how other people feel when she treats them like shit, and she feels deserving of special privileges and considerations. She's never, to my knowledge, asked for forgiveness or mercy. She's demanded compliance and absolution. Not the same thing by a long shot. So, imo, she's not so out of touch with reality that she's completely unaware of her behaviors. She's just got a distorted twist on it, where she's both the boss and the victim and nothing she does is her fault because reasons. I don't abide that kind of behavior in myself and not in others. Maybe that means that I have too high expectations, but I know how hard some people work on their sobriety and recovery for all kinds of issues and it doesn't feel right to me to dole out compassion or empathy to someone who rejects it, over and over again and spits in people's faces for it. Going easy on Kim feels like a slap in the face to those, many of this board, who have overcome so much and haven't/don't drag other people down in the process. YMMV ; - )

LOL Oh my. Well, if she "sings" about as well as she does porn, then yeah, no, I'm good. ; - ) eta: Okay, I watched it and she should never dance, either.

Perform what? She does nothing.

Mya Stone, Not!Kingsley is just the best. Every time I say it in my head, I crack up. The scary part is that I can see Kim using that name and thinking that noooo one will be the wiser. lol

Cool, done! I've been sober for three years! ... I mean, it's true as long as I say it's true, right? DON'T QUESTION MY SOBRIETY, JENNY! Or else you know what will happen to you know who, and you know why.

She's a raging douche, as well as being a raging alcoholic. That's such a douchecanoe thing to say and it seems to be her "go to" line, too.

Same here. I tried logging out and then logging back in to see if they'd reset but nope. Why are there quotas anyway? I LIKE a lot of stuff, OKAY PTV?! I'm easily amused. lol

You're so right, GreatKazu, it was blah, blah, blah. I get my blahs and my yaddas mixed up sometimes. I probably have more grounds to blame my brother ("You stole my Goddamn Virginity!") than Kim does with Kyle, but I'm an adult and I've made so many dumbass choices, that were all my very own, and I (sometimes too proudly lol ) take responsibility for them. It doesn't matter whether I liked Kyle as a person or not, she doesn't deserve to have Kim blaming her for her own choices in life. It's just not right. Kyle needs to let Better Sister Kathy deal with that mess from now on.

OMG real tears of laughter over here. Seriously you guys. Guys, seriously.

HUGS to everyone who has dealt/deals with illnesses and hardships. It's such a shitty thing to bond over, but I'm glad we can be here for each other. What a triggering, emotional season this has been. For those who say Kim is also suffering with comorbid disorders, then that's all the more reason she needs to get herself clean and sober. She needs to be able to get help for anything else she's dealing with but she can't if she's too busy self-medicating and taking her anger out on the world. It's all too tempting to zone out on some vice, but it's not doing that person any good. I totally believe, from my experiences, that Kim is a Narcissist, perhaps among other things, and she's not going to go down (relent and seek help) easily. Kim needs to be given consequences for her actions and if she really cares for her family and wants to be in their lives, then she's going to have to deal with herself, first and foremost. It's not easy, but what is.

Same here. Sometimes I'm grateful for all of my issues and the humor they have brought me, along with the tears. It's like I'm "in" on the joke. lol

People can have diseases and still be mentally, morally, and ethically competent. I don't care for the notion that just because someone has a mental illness, it means they are unable to know right from wrong and unable to control themselves at all. I, and many other people who suffer are not assholes just because we are ill. An asshole may be ill but not all ill people are assholes. But if I ever back into someone's car in the parking lot, it's good to know that I can just leave a note saying "I have severe major depressive disorder. Blah, blah, blah, right?" and then be on my merry way! LOL eta: Yaddas are not the same as Blahs, when will I ever learn.

Agree about the fine, but I don't know about the community service. She'll try to weasel her way out of it, if so. I hope for mandatory rehab. As everyone else is saying, yeah, she's so damn lucky she's a white, rich-ish, celebrity-ish woman.

Remember how Kim lead Gay Mastiff around by the nose? Yeah, she's not one to take orders from anyone.

NO ONE forces Kim Richards to do anything. I'm starting to seriously doubt that even Big Kathy was able to accomplish that more than handful of times.

Also, Kim is not just some "kooky" relative that sings to herself and keeps a taxidermied cat in a bassinet. She's toxic and a leech on everyone who loves her. She'll suck dry their energy, empathy, money, attention, support, and basically their soul, if they allow her. She's not harmless. Yeppers! I don't even own the deck but it's just about my favorite rendering of the Queen of Swords. Love her being the "thorn" within the bouquet of roses. lol

It's probably more embarrassing for her family than for her, plus you're only as sick as your secrets, right? Kim can't bullshit and threaten her way out of this one, which I think is a good thing. She needs that tough love even if it must come from the legal system.