Chai

I am so bummed seeing that picture of them above. Oh well what can I expect? They were raised to do this and this only. So sad. Of course I'm happy for them if they are expecting and they are happy over it. Not one of those kids looks around and thinks this is it?

I was hoping Josiah or another one of the Duggar family actually leaves. I'm afraid I want it both ways. I want one of the kids to escape and not suffer any negative backlash from JB and M and the rest of their families. I 'm sure there must have been a family similar to the Duggars that had a child not agree to the extent where they left.

I would love to see the results of that! Really. I think she is held up as someone whose mothering skills are above everyone else's, and it shouldn't be. With that many children she shouldn't have the time to work out for an hour a day, or have time to go to conferences to give speeches about all the ways she's organized and cooked and cleaned and home schooled 19 children. She didn't! She made her poor children give up their childhoods to care for every baby she ever had. Maybe if she had gotten up every night until the last baby slept through the night and didn't depend upon her older daughters to do it I might feel differently. NO ONE in that girls dorm should have a double bed! if anyone needs to sleep with anyone, they need to sleep with their mother, and JB can sleep on the couch somewhere. I would be bitter as hell if I had to do that. All she does now is tour the country giving speeches on how she manages her family. She turned her children into free slaves and abandoned her children to their siblings at about 4 months old. That's not something to be proud of. So many people ask what she does all day! The answer is nothing! She accepts Mother of the year awards and gives speeches on how everyone else does everything she should be doing.

I thought they wanted to populate the earth with as many people as possible with their belief system.

Now that's a piece of motherly advice every woman wants to hear during her first pregnancy. Something else to worry about!

Vaginal birth after ceasearian (sp?) or C-section :-)

You said it perfectly. Child actors have rights and legally have someone as guardian and make sure they get breaks and schooltime issues are met during filming. Reality tv is a separate entity, without those same provisions that child actors have. There were many discussions on this about Kate G and the Gosselin children being exploited this way. Her brother and sister in law fought against her tooth and nail.

....Without out Jimbob blowing on the horn all the way up the driveway bring 17 people behind him, all wanting to be fed.

I just got home and had to log on here to see if Jill had the baby yet. I love the pic of the baby, thank you for that! I think he looks like a Duggar. Guess what joke is going to get old real fast? Where Izzy? haha! I'm so glad no one can slap me through the computer!

Cmr 2014 posted in Duggar fashions that everything about Jessa's wedding, the color of the dresses to ice cream in the parking lot suggest that this was supposed to be a summer wedding. For whatever reason it was pushed back . This makes perfect sense, and now I wonder why her wedding would've been pushed back? Any ideas?

I just got a pop up for SCORE. I wish I could say I was kidding, lol

I'm so sorry about the loss of your daughter. If I could give you a hug I would <3

I don't really understand why they have to invite thousand and thousands of people to their weddings? I read that fundies invite their whole church? I just can't fathom that! No wonder they spent so little time there or hardly any money on food. Most of these people are complete strangers! So, the after party held at the Duggars or Seewalds would most likely be the real reception, right? That's where family and close friends would gather to have something to eat and sit and talk? I think days and days of making sandwiches and having hot coffee with the hot desserts described above would have been much better. With tables and chairs of course! Even round tables with folding chairs would be fine. Whatever happens to the elderly in this group? So instead of doing it that way, why bother inviting the whole church? I really like the idea of that beautiful church where they were engaged. Just my own opinion. :-)

when JB walked Jessa down the aisle and they got to Ben Jessa was beaming! That was so sweet! When he put the ring on her finger she said "its gorgeous"! I liked that they both had a surprise for each other. I didnt see Josie,where was she?

Josiah panicked at the news of Michelle expecting number 20 and got emotional and burst into tears during the family announcement. (Anyone with half a brain would have considering he almost lost his mother and baby sister) he ran off during the family filming this episode and JB quite forcefully strong armed him back to the group, where he appeared wiping his eyes and holding his arm like it was hurt. As Literata said, the "Other Duggar kids and Grandma " thread have discussed it quite a bit. That's it in a nutshell.

I will never for the life of me understand how Jill got married ahead of Jana? Beauty wise, she is head and shoulders over both of them, and I think her personality is better than the snitch and also the princess b!t%$. (my opinion only)

I agree. I always thought he had a real love and affection for his children, and showed it better than Michelle. I never thought he was physically inappropriate with anyone, either. I too, am still angry at his treatment of Josiah. I don't know when I will give him a pass on that one. If ever.

Guilty as charged! (I'm from Boston) For as many R's as we drop (Cah =Car ) We do seem to add an R when there isn't any! :-)

Thats wonderful news if she had the baby. i hope mother and baby are both healthy and happy.

TLC edits it the way they want it. Everyone could have said 10 great things about Jessa and 1 critical thing and they could cut out the 10 good things they all said and leave the one negative remark from everyone. That way they have created a storyline..... Jessa is a b1#$%! That's what you agree to when you are paid for reality tv. They can edit reality any way they want. You can't do a thing about it because you agreed to it, JB and M.

Exactly! This has always bugged me. He can spend that on a Senate bid and let his family live that way is unbelievable! What about Michelle? How about her not saying you (aren't saving 100,000 for yourself) when we don't have a big enough house that even $20 000 would qualify them for anything bigger than what they had. Although they didn't want debt... but using that kind of money for yourself... debt would be the lesser of two evils.

lol! I had to go look, Thanks for the belly laugh! The look on that girls face is hysterical!

Whenever we traveled or went out together I used to tell my kids pick a buddy-- and it meant nothing like the Duggar's system. I only meant stay together two by twos so no one gets lost. It certainly didn't mean for life! lol!

I have no doubt that they removed JB twisting Josiah's arm video portion on line. If you google" Free jinger Josiah arm twist" the page with all the discussions the time it happened is still there. One poster provides a photo bucket of the photos of the stills from that video. The most incriminating are indeed gone, but you can read about what people who did see it thought.

I remember that episode very well where they announced M's pregnancy with Jubilee. Josiah was the only person with enough brains to be scared for M with Another pregnancy after they almost lost both delivering Josie. He showed real fear and was instantly punished by JB twisting his arm or whatever he did. I felt sick when i saw that and i knew then, its not all they crack it up to be. That stupid idiotic thing known as a mother-- her son is scared for her, does she comfort him? No. JB twists his arm and does she sit him down to talk about justified fears? No! She ignores her son and smiles stupidly for the masses to congratulate her pregnancy! Anyone who hasn't seen it google the duggars pregnancy announcement with jubliee or #20. Im sure they dont want it seen much. If there's ever one kid that could throw them under the bus and get his own 20 million dollar interview its Josiah... After this he was sent away and appeared at a Branson Mo book signing with his head practically shaved. They Tomato staked him during that book signing( put him in between two parents, you arent going anywhere)