S04.E16: The House of L

[BaggythePanther]

2 hours ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

I am actually not sure that any of the Legends have interacted with Supergirl as Kara Danvers, been told that she is Kara Danvers or been to Supergirl's Earth. 

This year in the Legends episode that aired after the Elseworlds crossover, their timeship’s AI told the Legends they had missed phone calls from “Oliver Queen, Barry Allen, and Kara Danvers”. It wouldn’t make sense for the AI to reference Kara Danvers if they didn’t know who she is. 

[AnimeMania]

5 hours ago, Rushmoras said:

Wait, what? So, Lex Luthor, a man, who is supposed to be serving time for ecoterrorism, murder and crimes against humanity, not to mention for the fact that he has poisoned whole of the court room, for the rest of his life (31 life sentences), is somehow given free reign in a prison facility, which does not look remotely like maximum security prison? Not only that, but no one has frozen his assets, and he has free reign over-them, and can buy his way out of prison for short-time vacations for trips to Kaznia to over-see the Kara's clone, and has the prison warden in his pocket just in case? This is some new height of bullshit that this show has done in its life! Other than that, this was probably the best episode this season, because, let's face it, this season is blah...

Yes, that surprised me too that Lex wasn't in a fancier White-Collar prison where the prisoners already knew how to play chess and Lex wouldn't have to teach it to them.

[Trini]

9 hours ago, Rushmoras said:

Wait, what? So, Lex Luthor, a man, who is supposed to be serving time for ecoterrorism, murder and crimes against humanity, not to mention for the fact that he has poisoned whole of the court room, for the rest of his life (31 life sentences), is somehow given free reign in a prison facility, which does not look remotely like maximum security prison? Not only that, but no one has frozen his assets, and he has free reign over-them, and can buy his way out of prison for short-time vacations for trips to Kaznia to over-see the Kara's clone, and has the prison warden in his pocket just in case? This is some new height of bullshit that this show has done in its life! Other than that, this was probably the best episode this season, because, let's face it, this season is blah...

That's the point isn't it? They're showing how much of a supervillain he is.

[Rushmoras]

4 hours ago, Trini said:

That's the point isn't it? They're showing how much of a supervillain he is.

Well, that's one way to look at it. And there's another way, simply bullshit writing, because the persons responsible for the plot, instead of wanting to find a more logical way for Lex to be involved, decided to take a page from the early 1990's campy TV shows (like Power Rangers, Xena et al) and make everyone succumb to a multi-billionaire simply because he has money. But overlooked the fact that he's supposed to be serving 31 life sentences for mass murders, eco-terrorisms and whatnot else the indictments were. Just image Hannibal franchise (with A. Hopkins), where former wealthy professor-cannibal, who was serving life sentence, could have been walking freely without any escorts, do what he wants in the institution, which was holding him, simply because he had money. That type of shit would not fly with anyone, but somehow it flies in here, because, what? They are portraying a super-villain? Even this trope should be shrouded in some sort of reality standards. This isn't 1990's or earlier decades anymore. And, what are they trying to show with this? That all of the justice system is corrupt? Then, if that's the case, Alex shouldn't even bother trying to rid her institution of the enemies, which are in a form of Col. Hailey and co., because the enemy is the whole government system so it seems (example, that Ben Lockwood was promoted to be the Director for Alien Affairs. A person, who was sent to jail for pogroms against aliens). 

No, this is just crappy writing, that belongs in the sewers.

Edited March 28, 2019 by Rushmoras

[MarkHB]

14 hours ago, BaggythePanther said:

This year in the Legends episode that aired after the Elseworlds crossover, their timeship’s AI told the Legends they had missed phone calls from “Oliver Queen, Barry Allen, and Kara Danvers”. It wouldn’t make sense for the AI to reference Kara Danvers if they didn’t know who she is. 

Actually, Gideon called her "Kara Zor-El" in that scene. But the earlier point about the Invasion crossover holds... this is from the wrapup to that one (unfortunately, Kara's appearance is cut really short in this edit)

[Chyromaniac]

18 hours ago, Rushmoras said:

Wait, what? So, Lex Luthor, a man, who is supposed to be serving time for ecoterrorism, murder and crimes against humanity, not to mention for the fact that he has poisoned whole of the court room, for the rest of his life (31 life sentences), is somehow given free reign in a prison facility, which does not look remotely like maximum security prison? Not only that, but no one has frozen his assets, and he has free reign over-them, and can buy his way out of prison for short-time vacations for trips to Kaznia to over-see the Kara's clone, and has the prison warden in his pocket just in case?

Based on his interactions with the warden, and the row of chess players he had just catatonically waiting for him, my assumption was that Lex had managed to somehow mind control as much of the prison as he need/wanted. Granted, this is just my interpretation - and I think the show could have made it clearer, whatever their intention was.

[Perfect Xero]

Lex has absolutely stupid amounts of money and resources, backed by super genius that allows him to do impossible things like turn the sun red. They can only freeze his legal resources, not the fortune of dark money and resources he has hidden away.

Can Lex bribe, manipulate, and threaten his way through a court system that, in the real world, already tends to show blatant favoritism to the wealthy and connected and a for profit prison system? Absolutely. Is it over the top? Of course, but Lex has wealth, influence, and intelligence beyond anything that exists in the real world. Comparing what Lex can do to a character like Hannibal that is somewhat grounded in reality is like comparing Supergirl's strength with The Mountain from Game of Thrones.

[BaggythePanther]

10 hours ago, MarkHB said:

Actually, Gideon called her "Kara Zor-El" in that scene. But the earlier point about the Invasion crossover holds... this is from the wrapup to that one (unfortunately, Kara's appearance is cut really short in this edit)

Mea culpa.

Also, another Easter Egg I just realized: on The Americans Phillip Jennings’ Russian name was Mikhail. Someone in the writers room is a big fan of this show.

[Rushmoras]

13 hours ago, Perfect Xero said:

Lex has absolutely stupid amounts of money and resources, backed by super genius that allows him to do impossible things like turn the sun red. They can only freeze his legal resources, not the fortune of dark money and resources he has hidden away.

Can Lex bribe, manipulate, and threaten his way through a court system that, in the real world, already tends to show blatant favoritism to the wealthy and connected and a for profit prison system? Absolutely. Is it over the top? Of course, but Lex has wealth, influence, and intelligence beyond anything that exists in the real world. Comparing what Lex can do to a character like Hannibal that is somewhat grounded in reality is like comparing Supergirl's strength with The Mountain from Game of Thrones.

Yeah, I get it, but in this day and age of quality television, I find it absurd. I would find it somewhat credible, if not for the fact that Lex poisoned all of the courtroom in that scene.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Rushmoras

[Trini]

Apparently, Big Belly Burger is in Kasnia -- there were burger wrappers in the car when Otis was talking to Mikhail.

Edited April 24, 2019 by Trini