Little House On The Prairie - General Discussion

[ctlady]

3 minutes ago, Zella said:

I never had the displeasure of meeting Oliver, but based on the complaining I've read about him over the years, I believe you!

It was a means to keep the 'kid factor' in the show as all the Brady kids were grown.  And with Laura married and Nellie/Mary married and off the show, all that was left was Albert, Willie (who seemed to forever be in school!) and Carrie (who was too annoying to take over any lead)

But whereas Oliver was the son of Carol's (I think) cousin, he was family, whereas Mrs. Oleson took impy, mischievous Nancy off the street and dressed her up like Nellie 2.0 which was kind of disturbing

[Zella]

7 minutes ago, ctlady said:

It was a means to keep the 'kid factor' in the show as all the Brady kids were grown. 

Yeah the Waltons did the same thing. 

8 minutes ago, ctlady said:

dressed her up like Nellie 2.0 which was kind of disturbing

It was super disturbing! Everything about the writing around Nancy was creepy and ridiculous. 

[Egg McMuffin]

I don’t know what was weirder: everyone pretending that Nancy looked exactly like Nellie (She didn’t. At all.) or everyone going along with Laura’s mean-spirited plan to publicly humiliate her in the “mermaid booth” when Nancy was clearly disturbed.

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, Egg McMuffin said:

I don’t know what was weirder: everyone pretending that Nancy looked exactly like Nellie (She didn’t. At all.) or everyone going along with Laura’s mean-spirited plan to publicly humiliate her in the “mermaid booth” when Nancy was clearly disturbed.

This is a hill that I will die on, but I found it really off-putting how much the show patted itself on the back for its moral stand on things while repeatedly conveying the message that it was okay to be a mean bitch to people you don't like as long as you are the good guy while dragging other characters for doing the exact same thing. It's another reason I can't stand Laura past the first couple of seasons. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by Zella

[Snow Apple]

1 hour ago, ctlady said:

IBut whereas Oliver was the son of Carol's (I think) cousin, he was family, whereas Mrs. Oleson took impy, mischievous Nancy off the street and dressed her up like Nellie 2.0 which was kind of disturbing

Yeah, they tried to re-capture the magic of Laura and Nellie with Jenny and Nancy but you can't force it and it fell flat. They should have adopted a child with a different personality to inject new life into the show. And Nancy was no Nellie; she was just a whiny sociopath.

And yes, Harriet was disturbing. She admitted that the other children in the orphanage were lovely but she wanted Nancy so she can Frankenstein her into Nellie. Nancy was pretty with her long straight hair but Harriet (the writers & ML) put those curls on her. Creepy.

[Zella]

3 minutes ago, debraran said:

The twins in interview found ML "scary" but he really didn't seem to like them. If they got paid by lines, he got off cheap. The 90 min show was one he must have known wouldn't be shown much but was cruel. I don't know if my memory is real or someone gave this as  opinion, but years ago I thought someone surmised their parents/mom wanted the twins to have more to do and he did that show to appease, maybe knowing it wouldn't be rerun often. One of the twins said proudly that they did most scenes in one take and she was so proud. I don't think (just my opinion) that ML did that because they were all perfection, but he didn't care about script or acting. It was an awfully bad written script.

Christ that is really mean to do that to any costar but especially little kids. 

[debraran]

5 minutes ago, Zella said:

Christ that is really mean to do that to any costar but especially little kids. 

Things were tough for Sidney and Lindsay because Landon ran a tight ship. In 2001, Lindsay told People magazine how he made the experience difficult for them:

"Michael never made it fun for us. I was always petrified I was going to make a mistake."

One of the most challenging parts of playing Carrie was not growing up on the show. Producers wanted the character to remain a little girl, so they wrote things for her that would have been for a much younger child, Sidney explained.

After eight seasons of "Little House," Sidney and Lindsay left the series because they got tired of repeatedly playing the same role. The TV show also declined in ratings.

The twins called it quits following the end of that season. For the ninth season, they rebooted the show as "Little House: A New Beginning." However, fans of the twins and their co-stars ignored the spinoff, which was canceled several months later.

Another interview stated the same:

Although the audience loved Carrie and wanted to see more of her, it was Landon himself who wasn’t impressed with them. ”Michael never made it fun for us. I was always petrified I was going to make a mistake,” Lindsay truthfully noted about working on the show. But, they were able to prove to him eventually that they were meant to be on the show, citing their favorite episode, The Godsister. 

I always feel bad they loved it so much and it gets panned on so many forums but that's life.

Edited July 31, 2022 by debraran

[Zella]

28 minutes ago, debraran said:

Things were tough for Sidney and Lindsay because Landon ran a tight ship. In 2001, Lindsay told People magazine how he made the experience difficult for them:

"Michael never made it fun for us. I was always petrified I was going to make a mistake."

One of the most challenging parts of playing Carrie was not growing up on the show. Producers wanted the character to remain a little girl, so they wrote things for her that would have been for a much younger child, Sidney explained.

After eight seasons of "Little House," Sidney and Lindsay left the series because they got tired of repeatedly playing the same role. The TV show also declined in ratings.

The twins called it quits following the end of that season. For the ninth season, they rebooted the show as "Little House: A New Beginning." However, fans of the twins and their co-stars ignored the spinoff, which was canceled several months later.

Another interview stated the same:

Although the audience loved Carrie and wanted to see more of her, it was Landon himself who wasn’t impressed with them. ”Michael never made it fun for us. I was always petrified I was going to make a mistake,” Lindsay truthfully noted about working on the show. But, they were able to prove to him eventually that they were meant to be on the show, citing their favorite episode, The Godsister. 

I always feel bad they loved it so much and it gets panned on so many forums but that's life.

Yeah I never thought they were particularly very great, but I think recasting would have been kinder than doing what he did. 

[jird]

3 hours ago, Zella said:

This is a hill that I will die on, but I found it really off-putting how much the show patted itself on the back for its moral stand on things while repeatedly conveying the message that it was okay to be a mean bitch to people you don't like as long as you are the good guy while dragging other characters for doing the exact same thing. It's another reason I can't stand Laura past the first couple of seasons. 

"It is terrible to make fun of people for being overweight. Unless it's Mrs. Olson, and then it's hilarious." ( quote from the Book of Ingalls)

[Zella]

29 minutes ago, jird said:

"It is terrible to make fun of people for being overweight. Unless it's Mrs. Olson, and then it's hilarious." ( quote from the Book of Ingalls)

YES! That drives me crazy!

[Blergh]

What was especially sad about the neglect/dumbing down of Carrie was that the RL Mrs. Wilder genuinely loved her but just worried about her poor constitution instead of considering her a dull annoyance to endure but avoid when possible like the LHOTP Laura. I mean after RL Mary lost her eyesight, RL Mrs. Wilder valued her younger sister's insights and deemed to consider her to be the closest to an intellectual in her family. Also, she and RL Grace stepped up to care for the ailing and blind RL Mary after RL Caroline's death. If ML truly didn't think the Greenbush twins were capable of portraying this evolution (or ANY kind of growth) then why didn't he recast Carrie instead of humiliate the young perfomers/ retrotrash Carrie's character?

Edited August 1, 2022 by Blergh

[Egg McMuffin]

I watched Goodbye Mrs Wilder yesterday and I don’t understand why all the kids would go to bat for Laura as their schoolteacher. She’s always yelling in that way that people who aren’t very authoritative do, and is short tempered and doesn’t seem especially fun. I thought Harriet was a much more interesting teacher.

[Blergh]

13 minutes ago, Egg McMuffin said:

I watched Goodbye Mrs Wilder yesterday and I don’t understand why all the kids would go to bat for Laura as their schoolteacher. She’s always yelling in that way that people who aren’t very authoritative do, and is short tempered and doesn’t seem especially fun. I thought Harriet was a much more interesting teacher.

All I can think of is that since Albert was her pet and he seemed to be the most popular student that seemed to give her an in. Then maybe they preferred Laura for not requiring them to wear stockings in class (especially those who couldn't afford them). 

[Katy M]

48 minutes ago, Blergh said:

All I can think of is that since Albert was her pet and he seemed to be the most popular student that seemed to give her an in. Then maybe they preferred Laura for not requiring them to wear stockings in class (especially those who couldn't afford them). 

Not to mention not teaching them useless subjects that they weren't at all interested in.  And actually being interested in punishing the right person instead of just assuming that the historical troublemaker is the one actually doing the stuff.

[Snow Apple]

7 hours ago, Egg McMuffin said:

And I recall Laura making Cassandra take the fall and stand in the corner for Nancy smearing mud on her own dress.

Oh how that burned me up and I saw the show in it's first run and never got over the injustice. 

All this talk about Nancy reminded me how she tried to kill Albert's girlfriend. Nellie was spoiled and mean at times, but I don't remember her ever trying to kill anyone.

[Blergh]

On 8/1/2022 at 2:17 PM, Snow Apple said:

Oh how that burned me up and I saw the show in it's first run and never got over the injustice. 

All this talk about Nancy reminded me how she tried to kill Albert's girlfriend. Nellie was spoiled and mean at times, but I don't remember her ever trying to kill anyone.

IIRC, Miss Arngrim said that once there was an episode in which it wound up that Nellie would have been responsible for someone else's death but they decided that THAT would have been too dark and that there was no way viewers could have accepted that.

IF that's true, then it makes it all the more mind-boggling that Nancy's very FIRST episode had her plot to kill Albert's one-shot girlfriend with everyone knowing it but somehow convinced that ALL Nancy needed was to get dunked in her mermaid costume! The ONLY thing that achieved was to get Nancy to understand that Mrs. Oleson DID love her for who she was. Big woo. What about having to deal with the fact that this child was a proto-Bad Seed- trying to get another child killed JUST because others were paying attention to that child? Also, Nancy seemed to revel in Mrs. Oleson deliberately trying to use her to recreate Nellie! That just wasn't right.

Oh, yeah, that was wrong of Laura to insist Cassandra take the fall for Nancy ruining her own dress 'just this once'- because Nancy NEVER felt sorry for the other girl having been punished for her OWN actions.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Blergh

[jird]

11 hours ago, Blergh said:

IIRC, Miss Arngrim said that once there was an episode in which it wound up that Nellie would have been responsible for someone else's death but they decided that THAT would have been too dark and that there was no way viewers could have accepted th

I don't remember any episode where Nellie did or could have caused serious physical harm to anyone. Laura, on the other hand, pushed Nellie down a hill in a wheelchair and tricked her and Mrs. Olelson into putting a tree full of bees into a horse-drawn wagon. But both of those were hilarious instead of crazy dangerous, because once again, Mrs. Olseson.

[debraran]

I agree, If Mr O was allergic or Nellie it could have killed them but even being bit a lot, I never thought that was funny younger or older watching. Not liking bees, it was horrific. I don't know how many of us could be pushed like that in a wheel chair and not get hurt but it was LHOP. Laura could do anything and not get punished. She messed up the chicken, didn't do the dress sewing correctly on purpose (but just hilarious)  We  had to watch her run away because she resented Charles Jr and then was guity, but then AGAIN be very mean to Albert for the same reason. She hurt Nel's too by changing prices with Albert for Mrs Oleson's "sale, a dumb script and she did deserve something I suppose but having people walk out with items, in "real" life they'd be paying them back or getting items back for damages. ; )

So many things but writing was never fair.

Edited August 3, 2022 by debraran

[Zella]

A Laura moment that also made me really mad is when she trespasses on that one miner's property and then screams at him when he is mad at her. 🙄

[ctlady]

Am I the only one who noticed that once Nellie married Percival, she got nice, polite and mature.  Whereas, when Laura married Almanzo, she turned into a screeching shrew?

I watched Divorce, Walnut Grove Style - which I loathed for the 'big misunderstanding' trope.  Laura physically attacks Brenda Sue in the middle of town.  She's full of rage, whereas Nellie comes out of the restaurant and is like, "what's going on?"  The old Nellie probably would've verbally jibbed Laura.  I thought Laura's reaction was immature and disgusting, especially she was physically fighting in front of her students - who were cheering her on!

There are many more post-married annoying Laura moments, but this one just takes the cake!

[Zella]

3 hours ago, ctlady said:

Am I the only one who noticed that once Nellie married Percival, she got nice, polite and mature.  Whereas, when Laura married Almanzo, she turned into a screeching shrew?

I watched Divorce, Walnut Grove Style - which I loathed for the 'big misunderstanding' trope.  Laura physically attacks Brenda Sue in the middle of town.  She's full of rage, whereas Nellie comes out of the restaurant and is like, "what's going on?"  The old Nellie probably would've verbally jibbed Laura.  I thought Laura's reaction was immature and disgusting, especially she was physically fighting in front of her students - who were cheering her on!

There are many more post-married annoying Laura moments, but this one just takes the cake!

Yeah I had found Laura and Almanzo's courtship to be quite charming in the books, but she is absolutely insufferable the minute he arrives on screen for the first time. 

[Blergh]

Something else that just occurred to me re 'Back to School (Part Two)'.  Despite the fact that Nellie clearly was doing nothing more attempting to defend herself against Laura's physical attack in the aftermath of having deliberately sabotaged Laura's chances for passing the teaching exam, after pulling Laura off her, Almanzo doesn't say or do anything to try to help Nellie. In fact, not only is his entire dialogue with Laura but he leaves the very muddied (etc.) Nellie behind when he takes Laura to his place- as though Nellie was just a dumb animal Laura had attacked(and herself had no need to get cleaned up)

Then,too, despite the fact that Almanzo lived with his older sister Eliza Jane (whose absence in the Wilder home during this time is entirely unexplained), Almanzo only gives Laura HIS robe after helping to clean her up and making her tea- NOT any of his sister's apparel. Even had Charles not made a beeline and  walloped Almanzo, WHERE was Laura supposed to have worn a man's robe and did he plan to drop her off at her farm afterwards (had she not run away across who knows how many farms wearing said robe)? Although Eliza Jane was barely acquainted with Laura, I think after Almanzo explained what had happened,  she would have been willing to have retroactively allowed her brother to let  Laura borrow one of her housedresses so she'd have had something more feminine (and conventional) to have worn  after she'd soiled her own clothes not only for the sake of helping to preserve what was left of Laura's rep but to keep the newly settled Wilder sibs from having 'the neighbors' question them ).

Of course, as it is, after Laura declared that she was 'a woman, a woman' and hated 'them all' then run off, it would seem more likely than not that Almanzo ,who never so much as sewed holes in his own socks,would have 'asked' Eliza Jane (and she'd have agreed) to have washed Laura's clothes. In any case, Laura WAS seen wearing those clothes again and, eventually, Almanzo was seen wearing that robe but how and when they got exchanged/cleaned was never spelled out.

[Zella]

Almanzo in the show is no prize either. He gave me the creeps. 

[Egg McMuffin]

I’m glad she fell down because if she didn’t, then the theme song wouldn’t make that weird noise when she falls. Anyone ever notice that?

[jason88cubs]

I still don't understand how they had a restaurant. It's been awhile since I have watched but I can't imagine they got that much business especially in Walnut Grove

[Egg McMuffin]

A restaurant in a community of poor people - lol. I don’t know how Colonel Sanders thought that Walnut Grove could support a KFC.

[ctlady]

2 hours ago, jason88cubs said:

I still don't understand how they had a restaurant. It's been awhile since I have watched but I can't imagine they got that much business especially in Walnut Grove

I just thought that the other day while watching Oleson vs Oleson Harriett was trying to run the restaurant by herself with Caroline away gathering petitions.  AND a hotel.  I could see if WG was a tiny town adjacent to a big city with lots of attractions and sight seeing that would attract tourists to stay somewhere cozy, quiet and inexpensive.  But who actually VISITED WG that it warranted it's own restaurant and hotel?

The 3 most annoying moments that make me super punchy:

1.  "Elysssssssa!  Elyssssssa!   Elyssssssa!  Elysssssa!"  (The Godsister)

2)  Grace screaming bloody murder at the dinner table in Oleson vs Oleson

3) "My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  (oh Lord, I just lost count!)  (May We Make Them Proud2)

Runner up:  "I'm a woman.  A woman!!  (Back To School 2)

And....was Willie developmentally behind?  Or was it the many hours he spent in the corner that put him behind in his schoolin'?  While watching Times Are Changing, he towers over all the other kids the school when they're swimming at the lake.   I know there are multiple grades in that one room schoolhouse, but I thought Willie would've been graduated by now.  Isn't he around the same age in this episode that Nellie was in Back To School1 when she graduated?

[Zella]

It would have made more sense for it to be a boarding house that provided meals and lodging rather than a hotel or restaurant. But even then, it probably wouldn't have been considered truly respectable unless it had her parents living there too. 

[Snow Apple]

I also thought Willie was in school way too long and wondered about his age. Did we see or hear about Albert graduate? I assumed Albert and Willie were the same age.

Maybe the the restaurant earns money from bachelors who won't or can't cook? And maybe those working in town eat lunch there instead of bringing food from home? Restaurant food is fresher than a homemade sandwich made that morning (a sandwich with meat or butter is gross by lunchtime). No fridge or microwaves back then for leftover stew. But I can't see WG residents paying for restaurant food everyday. 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Snow Apple

[Zella]

45 minutes ago, Snow Apple said:

Maybe the the restaurant earns money from bachelors who won't or can't cook? 

During this time period, that's why so many people lived in boarding houses--it provided household services like laundry and meals that someone living alone could not realistically do on their own and work since everything was so time-intensive--and why I think a boarding house makes way more sense than a hotel or restaurant. 

[jason88cubs]

58 minutes ago, Snow Apple said:

I also thought Willie was in school way too long and wondered about his age. Did we see or hear about Albert graduate? I assumed Albert and Willie were the same age.

Maybe the the restaurant earns money from bachelors who won't or can't cook? And maybe those working in town eat lunch there instead of bringing food from home? Restaurant food is fresher than a homemade sandwich made that morning (a sandwich with meat or butter is gross by lunchtime). No fridge or microwaves back then for leftover stew. But I can't see WG residents paying for restaurant food everyday. 

True about bachelor's.  Did it ever say what hours were or did they have a sign? I'd imagine they would be close during certain times of the day. Breakfast probably started around 5 or 6 back then?I could see them closing at 10:00 open 12:00 to 2:00 then dinner 5:00 to 7:00 maybe?

I wonder if they had shorter hours during winter too? I can't imagine people traveling to the restaurant on a cold winter night

[Egg McMuffin]

1 hour ago, Snow Apple said:

I also thought Willie was in school way too long and wondered about his age. Did we see or hear about Albert graduate? I assumed Albert and Willie were the same age.

I think they implied Willie had graduated when he got married in the last regular episode. As for Albert, he graduated to morPHINE and fatal disease syndrome.

58 minutes ago, Zella said:

During this time period, that's why so many people lived in boarding houses--it provided household services like laundry and meals that someone living alone could not realistically do on their own and work since everything was so time-intensive--and why I think a boarding house makes way more sense than a hotel or restaurant. 

That’s why Laura and Manly got into the boarding house biz. Which was a good idea, except that you’d have to live with that harpy.

[Mr. Sparkle]

3 hours ago, ctlady said:

The 3 most annoying moments that make me super punchy:

1.  "Elysssssssa!  Elyssssssa!   Elyssssssa!  Elysssssa!"  (The Godsister)

2)  Grace screaming bloody murder at the dinner table in Oleson vs Oleson

3) "My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  (oh Lord, I just lost count!)  (May We Make Them Proud2)

Runner up:  "I'm a woman.  A woman!!  (Back To School 2)

I humbly add: "I'm here!! I'm here!!" from the blind girl who was caught in the sand storm. 

[CountryGirl]

Can I add DripLip's ""I DIDN'T MEAN IT! I DIDN'T MEAN IT! IT WAS AN ACCIDENT! AN ACCIDENT!!!!!" 

[debraran]

Karen Grassle posted she went to a fan expo in Nashville with Alison and Melissa G. Part of her message. Pic of little house is from fan who made it to show them.

Then I jetted over to Knoxville, Tennessee for the Fanboy Expo where I joined the delightful Melissa Gilbert and the fabulous Alison Arngrim for a mini-LHOP reunion. Below is a picture of the three of us. The staff and volunteers at Fanboy Expo were so great to us! We are so lucky with our fans who shower us with appreciation. So many were moved to tears that my helper, Jada, brought tissues and ran out! People came from as far away as Mississippi and Connecticut. I was amazed and humbled. My sincere thanks to all the fans and to Fanboy Expo.

Finally, I am sharing this on the website and on social media, but I wanted to let my Insiders know this news directly:

Change is part of life. The time for me to sign and send autographed photos and books by mail is coming to an end. After almost 50 years, I’m sure you can understand. My energy needs to go in other directions.

Requests for autographs, signed photos, signed books and bookplates received by mail after September 1st, 2022 will not be answered.

I so appreciate your understanding, and your loyalty to LHOP and to me over these nearly 50 years! The love of “Ma” and the positive responses to my memoir have been humbling and gratifying. Thank you!

From time to time, I will be doing appearances, which I will announce on my website. Please come if you can and I’ll be signing there and joyfully greeting my exceptional fans.

Edited August 12, 2022 by debraran

[jird]

On 8/11/2022 at 12:45 PM, ctlady said:

Runner up:  "I'm a woman.  A woman!!  (Back To School 2)

"AND I HATE ALL OF YOU!"

(And Jonathan in the background thinking, "What did I do?")

[Egg McMuffin]

On 8/11/2022 at 1:45 PM, ctlady said:

The 3 most annoying moments that make me super punchy:

1.  "Elysssssssa!  Elyssssssa!   Elyssssssa!  Elysssssa!"  (The Godsister)

2)  Grace screaming bloody murder at the dinner table in Oleson vs Oleson

3) "My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  My baby!  (oh Lord, I just lost count!)  (May We Make Them Proud2)

4) Albert crying “no, no, NO!!!” (and doing the TARA) when he found out Thylvia was pregnant. Was that because he didn’t do it, or because he did?

4) “Look upon the face of death, never feel your baby’s breath!” Oh wait, that was a Waltons.

[ctlady]

For anyone interested, the final 3 episodes of the series are on this morning from 9-noon on Hallmark

[Blergh]

15 hours ago, debraran said:

She did a lot of publicity for book which was tiring. The can't do autographs surprised me but it is free. Even Katherine if they sent a picture or something to sign, would ask for postage. I  didn't think Karen would get that many requests. I do respect her wishes though and she deserves to relax. I know she had surgery too.

Of course, what's rather sad is that Miss Grassle is getting (if not already gotten) to the state/age of needing as much income as possible to take care of her health yet having little disposable income beyond her LHOTP association (reunion tours and bio royalties).

[Mr. Sparkle]

29 minutes ago, ctlady said:

For anyone interested, the final 3 episodes of the series are on this morning from 9-noon on Hallmark

I don't hate that last one with Mr. Montague, but I'm glad that proposed spin-off never happened. 

[ctlady]

2 hours ago, Superclam said:

I don't hate that last one with Mr. Montague, but I'm glad that proposed spin-off never happened

I didn't know there was supposed to be a spin off.  It makes sense because they left so many open doors - esp about Mr. M.  It just.....ended.

Harriett was the worst in Shall I Have This Dance.  She cried at Nellie's wedding, dressed like it was a funeral for Willie's wedding and can't even go to the reception.  Had to make it all about her - and good ol' Nels didn't disappoint in coddling her and telling her it wasn't a mistake to marry her. UGH!

I was wondering why Rachel didn't start wearing her hair up after she got married.

And that infamous rust and teal dress Laura wore when she was 15 still fits as she wore it to the wedding

Matthew going back with his Pa was so contrived - and the change of heart was too fast for me to buy it

[Mr. Sparkle]

10 minutes ago, ctlady said:

I didn't know there was supposed to be a spin off.  It makes sense because they left so many open doors - esp about Mr. M.  It just.....ended.

Yeah, assuming wikipedia is correct:

"The spin-off’s finale episode, Hello and Goodbye, in which Laura and Almanzo finish renovating the late Mrs. Flannery's home into a boardinghouse and start to take in residents, was meant as a backdoor pilot for an entirely new spinoff alongside what was supposed to have been another few seasons of the original show.

Writer Sherwood Montague rounded out the ensemble and the show was supposed to have covered his attempts to bring sophistication to Walnut Grove, but low viewership led to cancellation of both the sequel show and the intended spinoff."

The very awful Bless All the Dear Children ties up some of the loose ends. Is Montague in Blow Up the Town? I don't remember and I certainly don't want to look. 

[Blergh]

Speaking of Mr. Montague, I was a bit appalled at how he flippantly told Mrs. Oleson that Nancy was set to commit suicide after he'd termed Nancy's composition 'drivel'! I'm by NO means a fan of Nancy and, yes, she deserved to have someone give her an honest opinion about her work rather than worship it(or her) . However, telling even a bratty child's mother that the child was ready to do herself in over said opinion  and leaving the mother in an alarmed state was NOT clever or funny and I was a bit appalled that it was treated strictly for laughs  on the show instead Mr. Montague either trying to encourage Nancy to work to improve her work or,at the very least, have had him advise Harriet to tell Nancy that he wasn't attacking HER  but just wanting her to try to improve her skills. BTW, Mr. Montague had had no knowledge of Nancy having attempted to have another child killed by getting the latter child trapped in the ice house.

[jird]

10 hours ago, Superclam said:

The very awful Bless All the Dear Children ties up some of the loose ends. Is Montague in Blow Up the Town? I don't remember and I certainly don't want to look

I think so. I have a memory of him and Almanzo fighting some of the Bad Guys, but can't remember where he was at the end.

[Egg McMuffin]

Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable. I don’t think Laura’s boarding house was supposed to be its own spinoff. Little House: A New Beginning was the spinoff. It only got folded into the LHOTP syndication package because it only lasted a season. I believe the boarding house setup was supposed to be a new setup for LHANB, season 2, because having the Carters fill in for the Ingalls and Laura with a reduced role was not working.

[Blergh]

2 hours ago, Egg McMuffin said:

Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable. I don’t think Laura’s boarding house was supposed to be its own spinoff. Little House: A New Beginning was the spinoff. It only got folded into the LHOTP syndication package because it only lasted a season. I believe the boarding house setup was supposed to be a new setup for LHANB, season 2, because having the Carters fill in for the Ingalls and Laura with a reduced role was not working.

The whole Grand Hotel on the Prairie featuring Messrs. Edwards and Montague as Laura's Odd Couple permanent residents (with Mr. Edwards evidently not being charged for board by Half-Pint out of sheer pity and sentimentality) and Willie &his new bride(the former she'd  only recently started being barely civil to) being the cooks and Manly, Jenny & Rose being. . . human wallpaper didn't work for the last regular episode and the lamentable post show TV movies so I doubt it would have worked as a 2nd season. BTW, what was supposed to have happened to the Wilder and Edwards farms while the onetime residents did nothing but hang out at the Grand Hotel? Did it occur to either of them to rent the land and houses to supplement their incomes or were they just supposed to forget the land they'd worked so hard to obtain and provide for their families with existed while they played house in the Grand Hotel?

[jason88cubs]

17 hours ago, Blergh said:

The whole Grand Hotel on the Prairie featuring Messrs. Edwards and Montague as Laura's Odd Couple permanent residents (with Mr. Edwards evidently not being charged for board by Half-Pint out of sheer pity and sentimentality) and Willie &his new bride(the former she'd  only recently started being barely civil to) being the cooks and Manly, Jenny & Rose being. . . human wallpaper didn't work for the last regular episode and the lamentable post show TV movies so I doubt it would have worked as a 2nd season. BTW, what was supposed to have happened to the Wilder and Edwards farms while the onetime residents did nothing but hang out at the Grand Hotel? Did it occur to either of them to rent the land and houses to supplement their incomes or were they just supposed to forget the land they'd worked so hard to obtain and provide for their families with existed while they played house in the Grand Hotel?

I don't think I have seen a single full episode of The New Beginning

[Mr. Sparkle]

17 minutes ago, jason88cubs said:

I don't think I have seen a single full episode of The New Beginning

Lucky.

[jason88cubs]

On 8/14/2022 at 7:22 PM, Superclam said:

Lucky.

the most i have seen is the first 10-15 mins of the 1st episode tbh

[Mr. Sparkle]

2 hours ago, jason88cubs said:

the most i have seen is the first 10-15 mins of the 1st episode tbh

All jokes aside, some are better than others, but the season suffers without Charles & Caroline. I am not at all interested in the Carters.