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On 11/2/2019 at 4:39 PM, Loandbehold said:

I don't know why Beer Bad gets so much hate. I really enjoy the episode. Most subversive PSA ever. And really, in season 4 alone, you have WTWTA and Superstar a/k/a Jane Espenson's One-Note Love Letter to Danny Strong. Both much worse episodes.

Nope, it's godawful, saved by a few good lines, SMG's great cavegirl performance and the Willow/Parker scene. 

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1 hour ago, Joe Hellandback said:

Really? The weakest ep in the weakest season?

Weakest what?? When?? How??? Why?? Season 4 may seem somewhat weaker compared to its predecessors (even though I have a strong desire to place it higher than S.03 sometimes) but it's sure as hell better than the subsequent seasons (especially the final two). As for Beer Bad... By no means a masterpiece, but still way ahead of useless Superstar , disappointing The Gift, terrible Storyteller, that ridiculously overrated musical episode, blasphemous Chosen or any Spike-centric shit from seasons 5-7. And last but not least, this is one of the very last Anya-free episodes which in itself is a great achievement. 

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November 24

1976 - Jennifer Badger Martin, a stunt double theoughout 27 eps of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (S.01-05) and the actress who portrayed Vanessa Brewer in Angel's S.01E.21 Blind Date.

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1997 - S.02E.10 What's My Line, Pt. 2 was originally broadcast.

1998 - S.03E.08 Lovers Walk first aired.

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On this day, November 29, 2001, after a battle with cancer, songwriter, singer, guitarist, producer and actor George Harrison, the youngest member of The Beatles, passed away. What did he have to do with the Buffyverse, you may ask. Not much, apart from the fact that a video for his song turned out to be the onscreen debut of one of the Buffy/Angel actors.

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8 hours ago, Loandbehold said:

My favorite episode!

I like it too ☺️ Although I like the second (post-wish) half more than the first. Draining of Cordelia will never cease to be one of my favorite scenes in the entire show. OTOH I hate "no-touching rule" with every fiber of my soul and Cordy blaming Buffy for all her problems is just shallow.

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2 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

I like it too ☺️ Although I like the second (post-wish) half more than the first. Draining of Cordelia will never cease to be one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.

Well, we got the intro to Vamp Willow, and watching her play w/ the puppy (Angel at his finest). While we had hints of threesomes (and foursomes) b/w Angelus, Darla, Drusilla, and Spike, in multiple combinations, in the scene you reference, we got to see one actually depicted. And the ballet o'death at the end.

Also, the first half gave us the why didn't the dead demon poof into dust, and, once we get into Wish!World, John Lee asking Cordy to be his date at the Winter Brunch. Not to mention the monthly memorial canceling classes. Oh, and liked Oz as a White Hat. I liked him better when he wasn't around Willow. He wasn't schmoopy. Instead, he could be sarcastic (w/ Devon, Cordelia), and had some good lines (w/ Buffy talking about how the bench looked shifty and nobody deserves mime and Xander discussing the latter's new obsession).

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Can't say much for Eliza in that The New Kid bikini shot; any time you can count the actress's ribs it's Not a Good Look, IMO.  Eat something, sweetie!  "ED" shouldn't stand for "Eating Disorder".  (Still gorgeous in most of the pics, of course.)

Had no idea that was Jordan Belfi cage-dancing in Smashed;  I enjoyed him as Adam the rival agent on Entourage.

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1 hour ago, Halting Hex said:

Eat something, sweetie!  "ED" shouldn't stand for "Eating Disorder".

Actually ED stands for "Eating Disorder" -  https://www.eatingdisorderhope.com/information/eating-disorder Either this or a steady "diet" of alcohol & drugs:

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"Something a lot of people don't know about me is that I am an alcoholic and I was a drug addict for a lot of years" - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4291016/Eliza-Dushku-reveals-drug-addict-alcoholic.html

 

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Yes, I know that "ED" is official shorthand for "Eating Disorder".  But ED (Eliza Dushku) has never had one, to my knowledge (despite her other issues) and that's why I was decrying her seeming bone-thin in that one picture.

That was kind of the joke, actually.  Obviously not so great if I have to explain it after the fact, though.

(Thank heavens I didn't reach to include an "ED" Erectile Dysfunction "joke", while I was at it. That probably would really have failed to stand up…)

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15 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

You wonder did she party with Nic and Glenn?

Well, I dunno. Couldn't find any evidence suggesting ED & NB were drinking buddies.

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As for her other colleagues, Eliza was caught partying with SG & AH somewhere around '99...

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15 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

Interesting that she and Nic were both victims of child sex abuse, very common for them to turn to drink and drugs. 

Wow, I never knew Nic or Eliza were sexually abused when they were kids...

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4 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

Well, I dunno. Couldn't find any evidence suggesting ED & NB were drinking buddies.

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As for her other colleagues, Eliza was caught partying with SG & AH somewhere around '99...

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Wow, I never knew Nic or Eliza were sexually abused when they were kids...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2997962/Buffy-star-Nicholas-Brendon-reveals-sexually-abused-child-days-arrest-public-intoxication.html

https://globalnews.ca/news/3964879/eliza-dushku-sex-abuse-stuntman-joel-kramer-true-lies/

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