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Watched John Goodman in 10 Cloverleaf Lane movie yesterday. The contrast between how he looked in that movie (he was bigger than he was at any point playing Dan Conner) and now is just unbelievable. I know we haven't seen Dan for years and he's gotten older, but until this very moment, I hadn't been able to put my finger on what seemed so different with the character of Dan (besides the obvious appearance that is). It's that Dan doesn't seem to have any joy anymore. It's like life has just sucked all the life out of him. And I miss the old Dan. Like someone posted in another thread - they wanted Dan Conner  for a dad and then ended up marrying a "Dan Conner". I had a great dad and wouldn't have changed that for even Dan Conner, but I too married a man like Dan Conner. (And have to say - I'm a lot like Roseanne Conner's character too. lol

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6 hours ago, MrFluffy said:

Goodman seems to have lost all talent since losing weight. It's a bit horrifying watching him; he was such a great actor earlier in life, but it seems the weight loss took away his appeal. I'm so glad he took care of himself, but I don't think acting is in the cards for him anymore. You know how different people look after they switch from glasses to contacts? Same thing with obese to slim. There are great extension classes at UCLA for myriad subjects, I hope he can get educated in another field and thoroughly enjoy a new life. He's dreadful as an actor now.

I cannot disagree with you more. And how do you think weight loss can affect acting ability?

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2 hours ago, MaryMitch said:

I cannot disagree with you more. And how do you think weight loss can affect acting ability?

I agree that weight loss is probably not the thing affecting his acting. But something is. I don't know if he's in ill health or has some personal stuff going on but he's definitely lost a step.

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On 10/22/2018 at 7:57 AM, llewis823 said:

Watched John Goodman in 10 Cloverleaf Lane movie yesterday. The contrast between how he looked in that movie (he was bigger than he was at any point playing Dan Conner) and now is just unbelievable. I know we haven't seen Dan for years and he's gotten older, but until this very moment, I hadn't been able to put my finger on what seemed so different with the character of Dan (besides the obvious appearance that is). It's that Dan doesn't seem to have any joy anymore. It's like life has just sucked all the life out of him. And I miss the old Dan. Like someone posted in another thread - they wanted Dan Conner  for a dad and then ended up marrying a "Dan Conner". I had a great dad and wouldn't have changed that for even Dan Conner, but I too married a man like Dan Conner. (And have to say - I'm a lot like Roseanne Conner's character too. lol

I think you are right. However, the change suits the character. 35 year old Dan Connor was full of hope and joy. He had a solid drywall business, kids that could hope for a better life, a happy marriage, and was sort of the unofficial prom king of the blue collar crowd in Landford.

Seventy year old Dan Connor is still having to work a back breaking job, his kids are barely keeping their heads above water, his wife has died, and most of his friends are suffering the economic despair he is experiencing. His children at 40 do not even have the same security he and Roseanne had established by their mid thirties. Dan would look at his family’s dire financial situation as a failing on his part, as a father and provider.

If you go by the old shows Dan starts to lose his “joy” after the failure of the bike shop. It makes me sad but it is probably one of the most realistic character journeys of a fictional character I have ever seen.

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On 6/5/2019 at 9:43 AM, qtpye said:

I think you are right. However, the change suits the character. 35 year old Dan Connor was full of hope and joy. He had a solid drywall business, kids that could hope for a better life, a happy marriage, and was sort of the unofficial prom king of the blue collar crowd in Landford.

Seventy year old Dan Connor is still having to work a back breaking job, his kids are barely keeping their heads above water, his wife has died, and most of his friends are suffering the economic despair he is experiencing. His children at 40 do not even have the same security he and Roseanne had established by their mid thirties. Dan would look at his family’s dire financial situation as a failing on his part, as a father and provider.

If you go by the old shows Dan starts to lose his “joy” after the failure of the bike shop. It makes me sad but it is probably one of the most realistic character journeys of a fictional character I have ever seen.

That scene where he is screaming and pounding the walls when Becky and Mark come to visit, Roseanne asks him what he wants to happen and he says he wants his old life back, he wants his shop, he wants Becky home and not married, etc. It was a heartbreakingly realistic and incredibly well acted.

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On 6/6/2019 at 3:32 PM, peacheslatour said:

That scene where he is screaming and pounding the walls when Becky and Mark come to visit, Roseanne asks him what he wants to happen and he says he wants his old life back, he wants his shop, he wants Becky home and not married, etc. It was a heartbreakingly realistic and incredibly well acted.

It’s funny because as a young kid I did not really understand his despair. I thought that he was able to keep his house and would eventually land on his feet. I also was certain that an ambitious girl like Becky would not let marriage at a young age derail her dreams, particularly since Mark seemed pretty supportive of her educational goals. I guess I was wrong on both counts, though it was probably Mark’s early death rather than the marriage that really hurt Becky.

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