WendyCR72 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 Yay! Hi, Lennie and Ed! Best thing about "Poison", to me. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1536269
cooksdelight September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 I feel so sorry for her mom, with the tabby cat. You just know that poor cat is left all alone when she's arrested....falsely.... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1536283
WendyCR72 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 I feel so sorry for her mom, with the tabby cat. You just know that poor cat is left all alone when she's arrested....falsely.... Hopefully, ol' Trudy was sentenced to death (I think the death penalty was still in play when this was filmed) and mommy got to do the honors. (It's fiction, so I don't feel badly saying this here!) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1536313
cooksdelight September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 I want the cat to push the lever. He/she was the one left in that apartment with Trudy when Mom was in the hospital. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1536329
WendyCR72 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 I want the cat to push the lever. He/she was the one left in that apartment with Trudy when Mom was in the hospital. That could work. Animals are smart, after all! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1536334
WendyCR72 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 Dennis Griscom in "The Third Horseman"...I guess I was supposed to feel sorry for him what with his ex aborting his kid, but yeah. Killing the guy in front of his own kid, as the wife said, so much for loving kids since the little girl could have been killed, too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1537041
Spartan Girl September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 (edited) Dennis Griscom in "The Third Horseman"...I guess I was supposed to feel sorry for him what with his ex aborting his kid, but yeah. Killing the guy in front of his own kid, as the wife said, so much for loving kids since the little girl could have been killed, too.I did NOT feel sorry for him. He killed an innocent man in front of his daughter. People that spout pro life propaganda to justify killing doctors piss me off. Hypocrites.Which is why I love it when Eames goes off on one of the followers saying it was God's will: "Maybe God is a little preoccupied with the doctor's daughter!" Boom. Edited September 24, 2015 by Spartan Girl 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1537116
WendyCR72 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 I did NOT feel sorry for him. He killed an innocent man in front of his daughter. People that spout pro life propaganda to justify killing doctors piss me off. Hypocrites. Which is why I love it when Eames goes off on one of the followers saying it was God's will: "Maybe God is a little preoccupied with the doctor's daughter!" Boom. Yeah, Eames-wise, I really liked this early episode. We learned a little more about her without it overwhelming the narrative. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1537143
WendyCR72 September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 Watching "Yesterday" before I go to bed and Jamey Sheridan never really got his due. He was good in the scene where he tells the victim's college boyfriend that Alyssa's body was found. Deakins should have had more to do like Ross got to. And I know I said that regarding Deakins versus Ross before, but I think just maybe had Sheridan gotten something to do, maybe he would have stuck around. Ditto poor Courtney B. Vance's Carver, who became basically a walk-on role by the end of his run. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1538158
cooksdelight September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 Totally agree. I could listen to Carver read the phone book, his voice is hypnotic. I would LOOOOOOOVE it if they found a way to get him on "How To Get Away With Murder" and go toe-to-toe with Viola Davis. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1538310
Maherjunkie September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 God yes! Oh and My Network has been airing reruns at 9am eastern time. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1538728
WendyCR72 September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 God yes! Oh and My Network has been airing reruns at 9am eastern time. I also have MyNetwork and it is running CI episodes (on S1 there, too!) daily, but here, it is at 1:00 p.m., so if the WE episode is a dull one, I can just switch over. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1539762
cooksdelight September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 "Kennyyyyyy!!! What have you done, Kennyyyyyyy!!!!" Love "Maledictus" "Badge" right afterwards, gives us Viola Davis in yet another stunning role. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1541432
Eolivet September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I did NOT feel sorry for him. He killed an innocent man in front of his daughter. People that spout pro life propaganda to justify killing doctors piss me off. Hypocrites. Griscom was a hypocrite of the highest order, which I loved that the show exposed. He didn't care two wits about God's will -- he did it because he was angry his girlfriend had an abortion. Which I've also found is the case -- moral high ground and religious reasons are often covers for something personal. "The greater good" makes a great excuse, but human beings are inherently selfish. Dig far enough back into the past of any zealot and I'm guessing you'll discover a personal driver for their beliefs that fuels them much more than pretending it's merely "God's will." Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1541552
cooksdelight September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 That episode reminded me so much of Eric Rudolph, who also killed because he was mad about an ex-girlfriend who aborted his child. That was never made public by the media, but he lived in my hometown -- a scant half mile from my father -- and we knew the girl and she refused to give interviews or be associated with him in any way. The police officer who caught him was never given the million dollar reward the FBI offered. CNN, and FOX, made my hometown look like a hick-filled hillbilly haven when he first went on the run, and once Rudolph was caught, NO ONE wanted to talk to the press. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1541569
WendyCR72 September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 That episode reminded me so much of Eric Rudolph, who also killed because he was mad about an ex-girlfriend who aborted his child. That was never made public by the media, but he lived in my hometown -- a scant half mile from my father -- and we knew the girl and she refused to give interviews or be associated with him in any way. The police officer who caught him was never given the million dollar reward the FBI offered. CNN, and FOX, made my hometown look like a hick-filled hillbilly haven when he first went on the run, and once Rudolph was caught, NO ONE wanted to talk to the press. Wow! Thanks for the off the record stuff! Always did wonder why Eric Rudolph did what he did. Since that was off the record, though, I do wonder if the CI stuff was coincidence or not... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1542149
cooksdelight September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 Somebody, somewhere must have told the writer(s) about it. It's so weird... my ex and I had been in Atlanta for the Olympics that week, and went to the rowing competition on Lake Lanier on Friday. Away from the city. We were back at Dad's house on Friday night when Rudolph had left his bomb. And to think he was driving around in the neighborhood that night!! He lived underneath the 4-lane bridge near our Ingles grocery store for a long time. They found cardboard that he used as bedding. When it was really cold in the winter, he'd break in and live in cabins owned by people from Florida who were never here during the winter. But they kept their electricity on year-round. Perfect setup. I am good friends with the guy who caught him. Imagine being a rookie cop, on night duty, and seeing someone going dumpster diving in the middle of the night. Thinking you're just arresting a transient. It wasn't until he was brought into the police station that another cop recognized him and he was immediately put into a cell with cuffs on his feet and hands. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1542178
WendyCR72 September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 Somebody, somewhere must have told the writer(s) about it. It's so weird... my ex and I had been in Atlanta for the Olympics that week, and went to the rowing competition on Lake Lanier on Friday. Away from the city. We were back at Dad's house on Friday night when Rudolph had left his bomb. And to think he was driving around in the neighborhood that night!! He lived underneath the 4-lane bridge near our Ingles grocery store for a long time. They found cardboard that he used as bedding. When it was really cold in the winter, he'd break in and live in cabins owned by people from Florida who were never here during the winter. But they kept their electricity on year-round. Perfect setup. I am good friends with the guy who caught him. Imagine being a rookie cop, on night duty, and seeing someone going dumpster diving in the middle of the night. Thinking you're just arresting a transient. It wasn't until he was brought into the police station that another cop recognized him and he was immediately put into a cell with cuffs on his feet and hands. Wow. I can only imagine the shock you must have felt when it was said Eric Rudolph set that bomb. I remember that well as it was obviously all over the national news. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1542254
cooksdelight September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 My mom (she and Dad were divorced) called me Saturday morning to make sure we'd gotten home OK. I had no idea what had happened. The real shock was when people I knew who worked for the networks in Richmond called me once he was caught and wanted my reaction. I was the only person from Murphy they knew, and one of my best friends used to work for FOX and NBC there. She called me first. It was nuts. That's why this particular episode resonates with me like no other. The whole background of the guy, and Eric, were too similar... they had to have based it on him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1542533
WendyCR72 October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 And right now, WE has officially circled around back to "One". Always a trip to go from S10 to S1 and see the differences. And, for a pilot, "One" wasn't too awkward (to me) and established everyone decently. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1619634
cooksdelight October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 I know.... the last 5 minutes of "The Boy In The Blue Knit Cap" we see all the various stages of Goren's career in flashback. And first thing he does right out of the gate is to promise the parents he'll find the killers. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1619651
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 No matter how many times I see "The Faithful", I don't understand Carver's ire at the end and threatening to take Goren's badge. Carver offered the deal to McShale. Goren just got him to take it. Now, granted, it did spare Melanie Grasso, but the overall intent - to take a deal - was done. Maybe there is something I missed even watching as much as I have... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623640
Maherjunkie October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 It's about power and boundaries for him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623646
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 It's about power and boundaries for him. Could be. It's just that he seemed to get so outraged over something that he was trying for in the first place, you know? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623666
cooksdelight October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Carver wanted to get credit for closing the deal, and the fact that Goren talked to Father without his lawyer present raised Carver's hackles even more. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623696
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 "Jones"! One of my favorites from the first season. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623700
cooksdelight October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 At least they have different music playing in the nightclub, but it's the same band as that other song. This will drive me nuts. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623718
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 At least they have different music playing in the nightclub, but it's the same band as that other song. This will drive me nuts. I'm going to have to start paying some attention to the music! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623723
cooksdelight October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Mike Post (of "The Rockford Files" fame) did the theme music for the opening, but I don't know if he had anything to do with composing the background music. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623772
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Mike Post (of "The Rockford Files" fame) did the theme music for the opening, but I don't know if he had anything to do with composing the background music. Oh, yeah. Mike Post did all the franchise themes, as well as for the aforementioned Rockford Files, Silk Stalkings, Hunter, and God knows how many other shows. I always thought the credits said "Music: Mike Post". But if that only means the theme, then I'm curious as to who composed the scenic cues, too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623805
cooksdelight October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 I want to bitchslap that stupid wife who believes Henry would never do anything bad. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623814
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 I want to bitchslap that stupid wife who believes Henry would never do anything bad. And she is willfully stupid. She admits she saw the women's clothes in the trunk. What a tool. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623827
Eolivet October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Caught "Smothered" earlier today. If Mrs. Van Acker isn't in the Hall of Shame for Bad Parents, she really should be. "Didn't I tell you I'd take care of it?" An example of how money corrupts absolutely. What a hideous excuse of a human being to do that to the woman carrying her grandchild. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1623869
WendyCR72 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Caught "Smothered" earlier today. If Mrs. Van Acker isn't in the Hall of Shame for Bad Parents, she really should be. "Didn't I tell you I'd take care of it?" An example of how money corrupts absolutely. What a hideous excuse of a human being to do that to the woman carrying her grandchild. Scarier to think it was based upon a real case (that was posted earlier in the thread). The actress playing Phyllis Van Acker played cold and haughtily creepy quite well. And, of course, we have future CI perennial actors Susan Misner ("Smothered", "Acts of Contrition", "Family Values") and Geoffrey Nauffts (Dale Van Acker here in "Smothered") and Brendan Keele (the scorned firefighter lover) in "Maltese Cross". Mrs. Van Acker was a horrible mother, but her hubby was no prize himself. A match made in hell if there ever was one. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1624013
cooksdelight October 21, 2015 Share October 21, 2015 Some great episodes on today. "The Good Doctor" next is one of my favorites because of the way Goren gets the doctor to testify and Carver cuts him to shreds. I need a martini..... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1626717
cooksdelight October 21, 2015 Share October 21, 2015 Did you guys know that Donna Hanover, who played the bad doctor's attorney (and a judge in a lot of episodes) was once married to Rudolph Guiliani? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0360535/?ref_=tt_cl_t10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1627030
Maherjunkie October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 She needs to be canonized. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1629796
Eolivet October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 (edited) Just caught the beginning of The Insider (not staying, as I've seen it a number of times). But I think this is one of the most realistic "dead body discoveries" any Law & Order has ever done. The girl yelling at her father to get up and being angry at him for not moving just strikes me as very honest. It's not all shielding one's face and crying attractively. It's raw emotion. Good script and good acting there. ETA: Ooh, and Goren uses the word "dagger" to describe the knife earlier in the episode. Really good script. Edited October 22, 2015 by Eolivet 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630510
cooksdelight October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 I know she's been on several episodes, but in this one the girl's teeth look bad. Yellowish. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630521
cooksdelight October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Let me ask...... if you're an actor, and you want to keep getting roles.... and you go on a nationally televised show that's popular.... you have access to wardrobe, makeup, etc... everything NBC would provide actors with speaking roles..... WHY for the love of all that is holy would you go on TV looking like this????? I am sure they would have slapped a little toupee on his head, or at least a decent combover to hide that weird bald spot. The attorney for the loan shark in today's "Homo Homini Lupis". Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630795
WendyCR72 October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Eeeeeeeeeek! Scary pic! <Hugs my internet access> Aaaand we just had the Goren/Bonanza ringtone/gun scene in "Homo Homini Lupus". Bobby got to be a badass so rarely that I love that. "You gonna answer that?" 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630798
WendyCR72 October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Huh. CI usually ended at 4 ET on M, Th, and F. Yet today, "Semi Professional" is now on 4. Wonder what the deal is... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630849
cooksdelight October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 I don't know, but to quote Bobby at the end of "The Good Doctor"... "I'll take them any way they come." 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1630874
Maherjunkie October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Why don't you just post a picture of Gene Shallit while you're at it?! I haven't had my morning caffeine yet and I run into that face! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1633265
WendyCR72 October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Why don't you just post a picture of Gene Shallit while you're at it?! I haven't had my morning caffeine yet and I run into that face! Let's not get crazy here! "Seizure", the one with the doc with a brain lesion attracted to a serial killer was on. I'm hard pressed to really think a lesion would be responsible for murder. But okay! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1634170
cooksdelight October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 A full day of Goren & Eames!!! "Kenny!!! Kenny, what have you done???" :) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1645632
WendyCR72 October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 A full day of Goren & Eames!!! "Kenny!!! Kenny, what have you done???" :) Kenny and his sister both seemed creepy to me! Maybe that was intentional? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1646658
Maherjunkie October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 Like Magenta and Riff Raff from Rocky Horror. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1646795
Eolivet November 22, 2015 Share November 22, 2015 (edited) The lovely poster, shoetingstar in the How to Get Away With Murder thread found this amazing gifset of "Badge," so I wanted to share it with you all here. Terry Randolph, man...one of the worst criminals, but definitely not one of the worst parents: http://rebloggy.com/post/viola-davis-vincent-d-onofrio-law-and-order-criminal-intent-gifs-laoci-what-is/14090784992 Edited November 22, 2015 by Eolivet 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1736343
WendyCR72 November 22, 2015 Share November 22, 2015 That's a cool GIF set! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6382-season-one-law-order-goes-cerebral/page/5/#findComment-1736511
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