Social Media & Spoilery Speculation

[Honley Lass]

I was laughing so hard at the clothes I totally overlooked the Moobs. Hahahaa

 

The strategically placed sticker over the family jewels was brilliant!

[SaucyMommy]

Do they have a forum for when the new Marriage Bootcamp Reality Stars starts?  TrueTori?  Couples Therapy?  I have an unhealthy obsession with reality TV

[cooksdelight]

In the upper left top of the page, type in the name of a show you're looking for where it says "Quick show search."

[BradandJanet]

I met a chef who had come in second in a well-known cooking contest show hosted by a famous British chef. He said the contract he signed was very detailed and he had to agree to pay a steep penalty (five million dollars, I think) for revealing any outcomes before they aired on the program. He said he would turn the program on in the bar area of his restaurant but had to be very careful what he said for fear he might accidentally violate the contract. He also said the final cut of the show was disjointed, so it was sometimes hard to know what was going to "happen" anyway. In one case, he was shown being responsible for an egregious mistake that was actually made by a different contestant. The editing monkeys pretty much do what they want.

I'm surprised at all the social media by "90 Day" participants. They're obviously not looking at 5M dollar contract violations. I wonder if the producers decided not to restrict social media in the idea that talk about the show was more helpful in creating interest than spoilers would be damaging.

[SaucyMommy]

I met a chef who had come in second in a well-known cooking contest show hosted by a famous British chef. He said the contract he signed was very detailed and he had to agree to pay a steep penalty (five million dollars, I think) for revealing any outcomes before they aired on the program. He said he would turn the program on in the bar area of his restaurant but had to be very careful what he said for fear he might accidentally violate the contract. He also said the final cut of the show was disjointed, so it was sometimes hard to know what was going to "happen" anyway. In one case, he was shown being responsible for an egregious mistake that was actually made by a different contestant. The editing monkeys pretty much do what they want.

I'm surprised at all the social media by "90 Day" participants. They're obviously not looking at 5M dollar contract violations. I wonder if the producers decided not to restrict social media in the idea that talk about the show was more helpful in creating interest than spoilers would be damaging.

 

 

That reminds me of when Married at First Sight was on.  I was able to sleuth and figure out who was still together based on twitter and Facebook pages.  Apparently small networks can't afford to keep people quiet.

[cooksdelight]

Oooh, BradandJanet, I'd love to know who your friend is. PM me if you like and I'll share a story about a tropical reality show contestant who pretty much said the same stuff.

With all the Honey Boo Boo talk, I don't think TLC is too keen on secrets being spilled. Once they were, that show was cancelled and they broke all ties with June and family. Will be interesting to see if there is any fallout for the couples on this show.

[SaucyMommy]

I definitely believe some amount of editing can twist things and twist situations, but I HATE when you watch a show and the person that is being vilified says it was ALL editing.  There has to be some truth in there?  or am I naive?  I live in the upper midwest so there isn't a whole lot of reality tv other than DIY and Rehab Addict stuff.  I mean they could edit the heck of 90 day fiancé but Dani still cries without tears....

[TonyasBlueEyeshado]

Did any of you read The Rules as young ladies? Very important in terms of how to value yourself. Too bad we can't send copies to Danielle's daughters... Lessons they will never learn from her.

[SaucyMommy]

Did any of you read The Rules as young ladies? Very important in terms of how to value yourself. Too bad we can't send copies to Danielle's daughters... Lessons they will never learn from her.

Part of me thinks they will learn what not to do by watching her.  My husband did that with his family.  He's the only normal one :)  It is possible. It's weird to be the black sheep because you are normal.

[BradandJanet]

I definitely believe some amount of editing can twist things and twist situations, but I HATE when you watch a show and the person that is being vilified says it was ALL editing.  There has to be some truth in there?  or am I naive?  I live in the upper midwest so there isn't a whole lot of reality tv other than DIY and Rehab Addict stuff.  I mean they could edit the heck of 90 day fiancé but Dani still cries without tears....

In the case I mentioned, a contestant did manage to ruin a simple fried egg or something, and the dish was photographed. The chefs were filmed rushing around the kitchen cooking too. However, apparently the final shot involved cuts from the chef to the food on the plate and a voiceover blaming the "wrong" chef for the dish. It may have been because the contestant was poised to do well in the final outcome so the "mistake" made victory less obvious.

Contestant also mentioned that the contestants were not supposed to talk with each other off camera because if an interesting conversation or disagreement came up, the editors wanted the film leading up to it. Talking head shots filmed later can also take care of this, but real action shots are better. Contestants were filmed at all hours of the day and night,even awakened in the middle of the night to go cook. The studios were windowless and without clocks to create disorientation. Chef contestant said he didn't interact with the other contestants very much so the specific final narrative was unclear to him until he saw the program.

I suppose it depends on the show. I'm sure there's some truth in what's filmed, but there's also a lot of editing to create a story.

[SaucyMommy]

I believe that.  I know the girls from Teen Mom have been interviewed and have said that if things happen off camera and it's juicy the producers have them recreate it.  There was a breakup scene that was totally recreated.  Which is why it often feels like the emotions are insincere and why they sound like they are reading a script. So I believe it.  This show feels more authentic in the sense that much of it doesn't feel scripted.  Some parts do.  Other parts do feel authentic for sure though.  I also think that Dani can't cry because she just isn't sad.  She's just manipulating everyone.

[lilacgirl]

There was a show that aired, and bombed, called Love Prison. Couples who'd only met online were sent to a house on an island and couldn't leave for a week. There were a couple more shows scheduled to air until someone really blabbed. The entire thing was cancelled.

I wondered what happened to that show!!! lol

[lilacgirl]

I definitely believe some amount of editing can twist things and twist situations, but I HATE when you watch a show and the person that is being vilified says it was ALL editing.  There has to be some truth in there?  or am I naive?  I live in the upper midwest so there isn't a whole lot of reality tv other than DIY and Rehab Addict stuff.  I mean they could edit the heck of 90 day fiancé but Dani still cries without tears....

 

They can say that it was ALL editing, but if you are a novice at TV, your true personality will show through. It isn't until you have been a Bravo housewife for the 10th time that it becomes ALL editing. lol

[SaucyMommy]

They can say that it was ALL editing, but if you are a novice at TV, your true personality will show through. It isn't until you have been a Bravo housewife for the 10th time that it becomes ALL editing. lol

Good point.  After season 1 I knew Joe and Theresa were thieves.  It was obvious how they paid for everything in cash and were so over the top.  Look where they are today :)  

[BradandJanet]

Dani has a strange affect overall. She giggles when she should be sad or concerned and "cries" without tears because she probably thinks she's supposed be crying but doesn't feel any emotion. I'm sure there are deep psychological explanations for the lack of emotional response, but I'm not a therapist. However, if I were Mohamed, I would be careful.

[SaucyMommy]

Dani has a strange affect overall. She giggles when she should be sad or concerned and "cries" without tears because she probably thinks she's supposed be crying but doesn't feel any emotion. I'm sure there are deep psychological explanations for the lack of emotional response, but I'm not a therapist. However, if I were Mohamed, I would be careful.

I'm not a therapist but I've read up on two personality issues one is narcissist and the other is borderline personality disorder. I'm convinced she is both. IMHO

[okerry]

cooksdelight, on 20 Dec 2014 - 5:13 PM, said:

 

***And what's with the "WE" got behind on the bills. Lady, you're the one who signed the checks.

Yeah she's one of those that never takes responsibility.  It's the ex-husband fault, the newer ex-husband's fault, Mo's fault the girls are depressed...

 

Exactly. This is one of the defining characteristics of NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder): They never take responsibility for anything, ever. It's always someone else's fault and they are always just the poor poor victim. It's good to be a victim, because then you get sympathy and don't have to own up. That's Danielle 100%.

[SaucyMommy]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

Classic symptoms are fear of abandonment, emotional swings, and....idealization

[okerry]

I've been thinking this for a while but FAith's comment in the teaser reminded me. She said its not fair for him to leave us to deal with it. In the episode where Mo goes to see the lawyer she says she's glad they decided to get married because she wouldn't have come home otherwise. I think Daniele takes those comments to mean FAith is attached and cares for Mo but does anyone else think she means 'its not fair to leave us alone to deal with our mom going crazy because you left'? And that he reason she wouldn't have come home is not because she was upset about the wedding not happening but because she would have wanted to avoid the aftermath, ie Dani's mental breakdown.

I agree with you 100%!

[BradandJanet]

I've known plenty of borderlines and narcissists in real life. They're not that rare and can be extremely destructive to everyone around them. There are several people on reality TV I suspect have personality disorders. The producers earn their money dealing with these toxic people.

I'd feel sorry for Mohamed except he's a con artist and put himself into this mess.

[SaucyMommy]

She went to a foreign country, paid for him to come, and mean while has how many counts for bad checks, eviction, credit card fraud. That seems to be a pattern of only short term thinking and what benefits her and only her. Mean while her kids are the ones suffering from her bad choices. If I were those girls, Id be out the door the minute I turned 18

[okerry]

Did any of you read The Rules as young ladies? Very important in terms of how to value yourself. Too bad we can't send copies to Danielle's daughters... Lessons they will never learn from her.

Oh, yes, yes, I did, and gave a copy to my daughter, too. Danielle has to be the biggest Anti-Rules-Girl ever. Well, her and the thousands of others now stalking Mo and other North African love rats. But seriously, The Rules do work, and Dani is a great example of what can happen when you don't follow them.

[EggoWaffles]

OMG Mo paper doll.. they should have put a green card covering the jewels instead.

[okerry]

I know that an awful lot can be done with editing, but I don't really think much of what we're seeing on 90DF is fake/scripted/acting. That's because persuasive acting is haaard to do well. That's why big movie stars get paid such huge money: Because good acting ability is really very rare.

 

Even seen a show like *Untold Stories of the ER* or *Sex Sent Me to the ER*? Those are more-or-less scripted shows that recreate medical mishaps, and the acting is absolutely terrible. Nobody would ever believe those are real people doing and saying real things with real feelings, but on shows like 90DF it at least *looks* real.

 

Editing, yes; acting, no. If those folks were really that good at acting, they wouldn't be on this stupid show. They'd be in the movies or on scripted TV making big big bucks.

[SaucyMommy]

Some of the scenes feel staged but I don't think they are scripted.  I feel like a lot of the scenes with Yamir and Chelsea are staged.

[EggoWaffles]

Agreed, It's just some things on this show (along with other TLC shows) are so awkwardly out of place that I have to think about wether TLC told them to do it or if they were alien probed for the seconds of that scene.

Some scenes are:

 

Daya's fake rock scene. I know that she was a meanie for it, but that was like, completely out of character once we got to know her well.

 

The entire Myla Vox thing.. like.. really? I've heard of Myla Vox before, a cousin of mine in Portugal listens to them, and they were supposed to go on tour to america in 2 years anyway I heard on the spanish news. So doesn't that defeat the point whatever drama happened to them?

 

That lawyer scene with Mohamed man. Wut.

 

Justin's sister in law or whoever that was freaking out at Evelyn like she stole her closet affair or something. That was so weird.. I wonder if TLC threw 50 bucks at her before that scene started lol

Oh let's not forget that entire thing with Danny's brother and father with the "black people are rare" phobia. Like What is up with that family? I wonder what Danny's dad does for a job... if an african american applied for a job would he be all "Do you know what would happen to the company if you worked here where it isn't accepted in the states??"

[SaucyMommy]

Agreed, It's just some things on this show (along with other TLC shows) are so awkwardly out of place that I have to think about wether TLC told them to do it or if they were alien probed for the seconds of that scene.

Some scenes are:

 

Daya's fake rock scene. I know that she was a meanie for it, but that was like, completely out of character once we got to know her well.

 

The entire Myla Vox thing.. like.. really? I've heard of Myla Vox before, a cousin of mine in Portugal listens to them, and they were supposed to go on tour to america in 2 years anyway I heard on the spanish news. So doesn't that defeat the point whatever drama happened to them?

 

That lawyer scene with Mohamed man. Wut.

 

Justin's sister in law or whoever that was freaking out at Evelyn like she stole her closet affair or something. That was so weird.. I wonder if TLC threw 50 bucks at her before that scene started lol

Oh let's not forget that entire thing with Danny's brother and father with the "black people are rare" phobia. Like What is up with that family? I wonder what Danny's dad does for a job... if an african american applied for a job would he be all "Do you know what would happen to the company if you worked here where it isn't accepted in the states??"

 

If Myla Vox was SO successful he wouldn't up and leave.  He appeared to not be profiting at all off the band.  Which leads me to believe that his "manager" was taking the money and profiting off them.  The rest I completely agree especially Daya.  Doesn't seem like her at all.

[EggoWaffles]

[SaucyMommy]

https://twitter.com/helleborine/status/546742077376430080 Omg!

[Persnickety1]

And this just in on Mo's FB status update:

 

 

 

Mohamed Jbali
5 mins ·
To all my friends , this is the only Facebook i am using , i don't have no tweeter or any other social media account or dating websites, if u get any massage telling that is me or using my pics pls don't respond

Like ·  · Share

 

Hmmmm, interesting.

 

Didn't a poster here say they had posted a little tip on his page that the INS could be monitoring it or something like that?

 

I'm wondering if he's just laying the ground work about that Lisa Sharma chick who posted saying he (Mo) had asked her to sponsor him just a month ago and she refused.

 

"That wasn't me, that was someone impersonating me."

 

That post kinda smells like all sorts of C-Y-A maneuvering.

 

Hey, Mo...Ever heard of an ISP?  Pretty sure INS can tell whether it was you posting or an "impersonator."

 

The plot...It thickens.  

[SaucyMommy]

And this just in on Mo's FB status update:

Hmmmm, interesting.

Didn't a poster here say they had posted a little tip on his page that the INS could be monitoring it or something like that?

I'm wondering if he's just laying the ground work about that Lisa Sharma chick who posted saying he (Mo) had asked her to sponsor him just a month ago and she refused.

"That wasn't me, that was someone impersonating me."

That post kinda smells like all sorts of C-Y-A maneuvering.

Hey, Mo...Ever heard of an ISP? Pretty sure INS can tell whether it was you posting or an "impersonator."

The plot...It thickens.

I posted he better watch his butt with the posting about money and oddly all the heifers agreed with me. Lol

[Persnickety1]

There was a show that aired, and bombed, called Love Prison. Couples who'd only met online were sent to a house on an island and couldn't leave for a week. There were a couple more shows scheduled to air until someone really blabbed. The entire thing was cancelled.

 

Is that what happened to Love Prison, CooksDelight?  Thanks for the info.  I totally loved that train wreck, and then the next thing I new A&E was running all of the new episodes on a random weekend during the day and then it went buh-bye.  

 

I thought maybe the ratings were just down the crapper so they ran the entire show on one day just to get it off the schedule.

 

Do you have any more info on who was letting their proverbial cats out of the bag or any links to the background info?  I'd love to read it!  

Edited December 21, 2014 by Persnickety1

[cooksdelight]

Check the Mickey and Evelyn thread in the Love Prison forum here for clues, info, etc. :)

Mo just admitted that another Facebook page is him. WTF? Is he dumb or what?

[Persnickety1]

I posted he better watch his butt with the posting about money and oddly all the heifers agreed with me. Lol

 

I think your post made him a little nervous, Saucy.

 

Looks like he's going to start blaming a lot of his FB messenger shenanigans on his impersonator(s), LOL.

 

Next thing you know he'll be claiming his account was hacked.  

 

Whatever you say, Mo.  Just keep the entertainment coming!  

[SaucyMommy]

The heifers are claiming Mohammed calls dani fat!

I think your post made him a little nervous, Saucy.

Looks like he's going to start blaming a lot of his FB messenger shenanigans on his impersonator(s), LOL.

Next thing you know he'll be claiming his account was hacked.

Whatever you say, Mo. Just keep the entertainment coming!

If he had an ounce of intelligence he'd have a low profile

[GracieK]

I feel so embarrassed for these cows who are all over his junk immediately after he posts a status.  

[EggoWaffles]

Who has that link to OkCupid? If that account is now deleted, then he obviously put that status to cover up what he did. If it is still there, it's possible it could be impersonators. 

 

Also, us freezer folk are pretty skeptical.. I don't buy that it wasn't him. In fact I'm having trouble believing that he won't continue on other social media sites. 

[SaucyMommy]

He has another facebook acvount and he posted 900 pictures of the 4th of July parade...but it's a fake...ummmkay

[EggoWaffles]

I think one Facebook is a fan page and the other one is his Facebook before fame. It probably got too complex to handle. 

 

Also, "I don't have no Tweeter" My mind fell to the gutter when I read that.

[essexjan]

That's an odd picture Mo's chosen for his FB cover photo - it's called 'Discussing the Divine Comedy with Dante' and it's by some Tiawanese artists.

[GracieK]

I think one Facebook is a fan page and the other one is his Facebook before fame. It probably got too complex to handle. 

 

Also, "I don't have no Tweeter" My mind fell to the gutter when I read that.

 

And yet, his English is still better than Dani's!!  She would have said "I don't got no Tweeter".. one has to think his English skills are actually suffering as a result of her influence.

Edited December 21, 2014 by GracieK

[SaucyMommy]

I think one Facebook is a fan page and the other one is his Facebook before fame. It probably got too complex to handle.

Also, "I don't have no Tweeter" My mind fell to the gutter when I read that.

The heifers are like I'll show you my tweeter if I can see yours

[SaucyMommy]

He might be telling the truth if Dani did have sex with him in his country she either cut it off or bit it off so he couldn't use it again.

Or it fell off...she's pretty nasty

[Persnickety1]

And yet, his English is still better than Dani's!!  She would have said "I don't got no Tweeter".. one has to think his English skills are actually suffering as a result of her influence.

 

"I ain't got no Twitter or nothin'.  It's not fair."

 

Cue weeping Damsel in Distress Dani.  

[Bobdacat]

and this made me LOL 

[SaucyMommy]

Bahahahaha

[EyeofHorus]

Train wreck that they are, I 'd still rather see more Mo/Dan I drama than watch the others get married tonight! Haha. Am I alone?

[SaucyMommy]

Train wreck that they are, I 'd still rather see more Mo/Dan I drama than watch the others get married tonight! Haha. Am I alone?

When I watch online I fast forward half the couples to get to the one and only train wreck

[Lalaagi]

https://prezi.com/ops3hvdoiuiv/nicaragua-presentation/ Myla Vox must be b9g on Nicaragua.I found this about Nicaragua and got Myla Vox as Nicaragua music

[GracieK]

Cassia posted this podcast to her fb page with the comment "Wow.  Just wow".  Which I take to mean she thinks these people are full of it.  Though I'm kind of skeptical of this "source" that sent them an email with inside info too.  Most of it is just about how TLC manipulates scenes through use of editing and the like. .which is hardly an earth shattering revelation.  I think most of us already realize that editing plays a big part in how we perceive each couple's story.

 

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