RedZoneTuba May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 The first one that comes to my mind: John Cleese as Frasier's marriage-counselor colleague from "across the pond". I loved that whole episode and Cleese's slow burn as the ever more desperate Diane tried to convince him that she and Sam were perfect for each other ("I've grown to hate them"), was fantastic. And the climax with his sarcastic speech of praise for them as a couple, a pause, and Diane's one word response...pure gold. 2 Link to comment
BizBuzz May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 Ha! Good one, and that episode was great. I don't know if he is considered a "star", but remember when the Speaker of the House came in? Tip O'Neill? He ducked into the bar to escape a woman (who turned out to be Diane) that was tormenting him about politics? That one was good too! Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 Cleese was, indeed, perfectly cast in that role. I liked the digs between his character and Frasier as well. Although I was not a big fan of the later seasons, and this particular episode required quite a bit of ret-conning, I must say that Emma Thompson's turn as Nanny G (Frasier's first wife) was hysterically funny. And, of course, Shelley herself returning as a guest-star for the final episodes worked pretty well, too. 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 Oh yes, Emma Thomson as Nanny G - I loved Woody most of all in that episode. How much he loved Nanny G and felt he was being snubbed. Remember when Alex Trebek showed up? The whole Jeopardy arc was funny! Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 Remember when Alex Trebek showed up? The whole Jeopardy arc was funny! This must have occurred during the period when I was not watching. I only caught the Nanny G episode in reruns after reading about it online! And I did tune in for the three-episode series finale. Link to comment
BizBuzz May 1, 2014 Share May 1, 2014 This must have occurred during the period when I was not watching. I only caught the Nanny G episode in reruns after reading about it online! And I did tune in for the three-episode series finale. It's worth a watch, it's one of the funnier ones. Season 8 Episode 14 - if you don't want to watch, you can read the synopsis here. It's a Cliff heavy episode, but really funny, especially if you also are fond of Jeopardy. Link to comment
Bort May 2, 2014 Share May 2, 2014 I loved Marcia Cross as Rebecca's estranged sister. Man, it was good casting, and the episode was so entertaining how Rebecca and her sister teamed up to trick Sam. 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 I thought Nancy Marchand, who played Frasier's mother, was brilliant. When she coldly informed Diane that she'd kill her "if you marry my son", I could almost believe her. 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 When she coldly informed Diane that she'd kill her "if you marry my son", I could almost believe her. Maybe that's what got her the role of Livia Soprano! 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 Remember when Markie Post showed up as Diane's college roommate (I think that is what she was)? Diane thought she had it bad for Sam. Was Markie Post even a star then? Was Night Court on yet? The 80's are a blur. ::giggle:: Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 Post guest-starred on Cheers in 1983; Night Court began airing in 1984. Harry Anderson also guest-starred on Cheers before Night Court. I also enjoyed Julia Duffy as Diane's college roommate in S1 (the one who translated Russian poetry), and Carol Kane as Diane's friend from the looney bin in S3. I think Post's character was supposed to have known Diane earlier, as they used to pull prank phone calls together. 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 I think you are right @Inquisitionist, Markie Post was a childhood friend. And thanks for the timeline. Love Harry Anderson ... saw him before he got famous in a comedy club in Pittsburgh, very early 80's. Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 He was never on Cheers, but I saw Dana Carvey about a year before he hit it big, too! :-) Back to topic: Fred Dryer, who also guest-starred as Sam's friend Dave in S1 and beyond, was a finalist for the role of Sam Malone. His audition partner was Julia Duffy, whom I mentioned above. I've read that the other try-out duo was William Devane (ugh -- have always found him repugnant!) and someone who's made such little impression on me that I can't recall her name... Just found her: Lisa Eichhorn. I can't recall seeing her in ANYthing pre- or post-Cheers. In the recurring category, you've gotta love Dan Hedaya as Nick Tortelli, who spawned Diane's line: I thought he was wearing mohair pyjamas! 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz May 3, 2014 Share May 3, 2014 Oh yeah, Nick Tortelli! He was great. His second wife, the blond, Jean Kasem, was Casey Kasem's (American Top 40) wife. That was a match I never understood. Link to comment
Inquisitionist May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Jean is still Kasem's wife. She is noted in recent stories about Kasem's disappearance. Very odd and sad. (The article I linked has a photo of Jean with Casey.) Link to comment
RedZoneTuba June 5, 2014 Author Share June 5, 2014 I just watched the episode where pre-Seinfeld Michael Richards guest starred as a oily slime-ball trying to get the bar from Sam due to an old bet from Sammy's drinking days. It was fun seeing him just before he became a star, but I was disappointed that he wasn't used very well in the episode. You have Michael Richards and you don't give him ANY physical humor, instead using him as a heavy/straight-man? The writer and director didn't seem to recognize his real talents. (I hope they at least sent the "Ted Danson plane" to fly him in for the role. :-) 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist June 5, 2014 Share June 5, 2014 The writer and director didn't seem to recognize his real talents. Or the casting director simply chose someone who had talents beyond what the role as written (and it was minor) called for. I wouldn't expect the director to rewrite the part because Richards can do physical comedy anymore than I'd expect a song to be inserted because an otherwise low-profile actor had great pipes. Looking back at his IMDb credits, Richards was a relative unknown at the time. Link to comment
ShellSeeker June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 Cleese was, indeed, perfectly cast in that role. I liked the digs between his character and Frasier as well. That was one of my favorite episodes ever of Cheers. When he threw his window open and was shouting out the window about how Sam and Diane's marriage would be "an epoch-shattering success," I laughed and laughed and laughed. Such a great line -- I have used it once or twice over the years. 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz June 29, 2014 Share June 29, 2014 And Diane just saying "See" - what a brilliant close to the scene. Love it. Link to comment
VCRTracking July 27, 2014 Share July 27, 2014 I loved Marcia Cross as Rebecca's estranged sister. Man, it was good casting, and the episode was so entertaining how Rebecca and her sister teamed up to trick Sam. It's one of my favorite episodes and holy crap was she hot in that episode. Also unlike other women's hair and outfits in the 80s her look isn't dated. 2 Link to comment
Inquisitionist September 2, 2014 Share September 2, 2014 Just rewatched Someone Single, Someone Blue. Loved Glynis Johns as Diane's mother, Helen Chambers. Johns will turn 91 next month! Link to comment
cpcathy September 2, 2014 Share September 2, 2014 I loved Glynis Johns as well, I was disappointed she never came back, not even when Sam and Diane got engaged. Also wondered why Allyce Beasley never returned as Coach's daughter Lisa (even though she only had two more seasons to do so), or why Sam's ex wife never returned, even briefly. I'm sure at least one story could have come from her in season five. 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist September 2, 2014 Share September 2, 2014 But Boggs did turn up again early in season 3, when he brought Diane home from Goldenbrook. Good point about Sam's ex-wife, although I did find it odd that the two of them were portrayed as being on such good terms in Ep. 1-2. Later episodes suggested that their divorce was messy. We also never again saw Sam's brother Derek. 1 Link to comment
cpcathy September 2, 2014 Share September 2, 2014 Did Sam say the divorce was messy? I heard comments in later episodes that would suggest he regretted having to go through a divorce (i.e. it was his fault). 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist September 3, 2014 Share September 3, 2014 I don't recall whether Sam said anything, but Coach told Diane in Showdown (the S1 two-part finale) that he'd been with Sam through all the difficult times including his boozing, the end of his career, his divorce. So I assumed the divorce was tough on him. 1 Link to comment
cpcathy September 3, 2014 Share September 3, 2014 Knowing Sam, I feel it was his guilt after the fact, the same way he feels in "A Ditch in Time" after Diane goes over the laundry list of his faults. 1 Link to comment
Bort September 14, 2014 Share September 14, 2014 Was watching the episode where Anthony and Annie wanted to get married at age 16, much to Carla's objection and at the last minute before she was about to sign the consent form, in walks Annie's cousin to turn Anthony's head and change his mind, prompting this little gem of a pep talk from Carla: "Let me fill you in on something, Annie. There are three things you can say about Tortelli men. One, they draw women like flies. Two, they treat women like flies. Three, their brains are in their flies." My point? Annie's cousin was played by a VERY young Sherilyn Fenn. I bet she was barely 18, if that. 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist September 15, 2014 Share September 15, 2014 Per IMDB, Fenn was born in Feb. 1965. The episode in question aired on Oct. 24, 1985, so I'd venture that she was 20 when it was filmed. Still pretty young -- and good catch! 1 Link to comment
BizBuzz September 15, 2014 Share September 15, 2014 My point? Annie's cousin was played by a VERY young Sherilyn Fenn. I bet she was barely 18, if that. Good catch! I never knew that. Link to comment
Inquisitionist September 24, 2014 Share September 24, 2014 Speaking of young guest stars, I'm watching (for the first time) the S11 episode with the wedding of Carla's daughter, Serafina -- played by Leah Remini, who was around 22 at the time. 1 Link to comment
CheersEnthusiast September 26, 2014 Share September 26, 2014 The wildest people would just drop in for a drink sometimes. My favorite was Tip O'Neill. For those who are too young to remember he was Speaker of the House back in the day and had a tremendous amount of pull in D.C. He is definitely in his element in a Boston bar and he really does seem like a guy you'd want to have a few drinks with. The stories he could tell! 2 Link to comment
Bort September 26, 2014 Share September 26, 2014 I liked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff cameo because they managed to spin it into a whole plotline about Rebecca's missing earrings and her thinking he took them. 3 Link to comment
BizBuzz October 12, 2014 Share October 12, 2014 Dick Cavett showed up once. I liked him. 1 Link to comment
CheersEnthusiast October 17, 2014 Share October 17, 2014 Dick Cavett showed up once. I liked him. "Dick Cavett!" said Diane with unbelieveable adjulation. 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist October 17, 2014 Share October 17, 2014 Don't forget "Gary Hart. Senator Gary Hart. Could-have-been-president Gary Hart" in Strange Bedfellows, Part 2. 2 Link to comment
CheersEnthusiast October 17, 2014 Share October 17, 2014 Don't forget "Gary Hart. Senator Gary Hart. Could-have-been-president Gary Hart" in Strange Bedfellows, Part 2. In retrospect what an ironically titled episode for Hart to appear in. ;) 1 Link to comment
VCRTracking July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 (edited) He was more a recurring character for two seasons than a guest star but RIP Roger Rees, Tony winning British actor who played multi-millionaire and Rebecca's boyfriend Robin Colcord. Writer Ken Levine wrote a touching tribute: http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2015/07/rip-roger-rees.html Edited July 16, 2015 by BizBuzz Fixed URL to point to article 2 Link to comment
M. Darcy July 11, 2015 Share July 11, 2015 Aw, that was beautiful. He was everyone's sweet baby. He seems to have been well loved by the theatre community. Roger was in two of my favorite and IMO two of the best episodes - the ones when him and Sam are in the contest and the episode of his and Rebecca's wedding. Link to comment
Inquisitionist July 20, 2017 Share July 20, 2017 Recently I rewatched S1, which I still find to be one of the finest first seasons of a comedy ever. Some interesting guest stars not mentioned above included: Ian Wolfe as WWI vet Buzz Crowder in One for the Book. Wolfe was born in 1896, so he really was old enough to have fought in The Great War. I love this episode. Sam wasn't yet hitting on Diane with regularity but was still trying to impress her. Lots of nice camaraderie among everyone in the bar. Barbara Babcock as the "dragon lady" agent Lana in Now Pitching, Sam Malone. After playing Grace Gardner on Hill Street Blues for a couple of seasons, Babcock had pretty much cornered the market on playing sexually forward mature women, and put it to good use here. Derek McGrath as Andy Andy in Diane's Perfect Date. He would show up again in S2's Homicidal Ham. These are two of my all-time favorite episodes, so sharply written and acted. 5 Link to comment
Gothish520 March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 On 5/1/2014 at 2:41 PM, RedZoneTuba said: The first one that comes to my mind: John Cleese as Frasier's marriage-counselor colleague from "across the pond". I loved that whole episode and Cleese's slow burn as the ever more desperate Diane tried to convince him that she and Sam were perfect for each other ("I've grown to hate them"), was fantastic. And the climax with his sarcastic speech of praise for them as a couple, a pause, and Diane's one word response...pure gold. I always loved his line when asked how his flight was: "Relatively crash-free", and when asked why he was in the country he gave some reason and said, "Any excuse to pop over the pond". Link to comment
Gothish520 March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 On 5/3/2014 at 1:26 PM, Inquisitionist said: Fred Dryer, who also guest-starred as Sam's friend Dave in S1 and beyond, was a finalist for the role of Sam Malone. His audition partner was Julia Duffy, whom I mentioned above. He also had a great line I've always remembered: After witnessing Sam and Diane argue - "My ex-wife and I get along better and we've exchanged gunfire." 3 Link to comment
cpcathy March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 My favorite Fred Dryer line is just a response, actually, Diane is making fun of Dave during Sam's interview, they have to stop the interview. Fred turns around and goes, "Gee, whiz..." 2 Link to comment
Inquisitionist March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 Those are great Dave lines. I also chuckled at his assessment of Diane after she'd rebuffed his advances: "Too skinny." 1 Link to comment
VCRTracking April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 (edited) I loved Harry the Hat's appearances. Edited April 17, 2018 by VCRTracking 4 Link to comment
cpcathy April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 He was so good in that role. I wish he'd come back more often. RIP, Harry. 1 Link to comment
Inquisitionist April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 I think Pick a Con, Any Con is a fabulous episode. The A/V Club had a debate about it during their Cheers retrospective a few years ago. 2 Link to comment
cpcathy April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 They thought it was too plot-y. I always really enjoyed it. 2 Link to comment
VCRTracking April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 RIP Harry Anderson by Cheers writer/producer Ken Levine in his blog: Quote I can't believe this isn't just one of his ingenious hustles. Come on Harry, show yourself. There's so much that doesn't make sense. Harry was only 65. He can't be gone. This must be a trick. I first met Harry during pre-production of the first season of CHEERS. So June or July 1982. He came into the office wearing the full Harry the Hat outfit. We were looking to sprinkle in some colorful characters and boy did he fit the bill. A few weeks later Harry invited us all to the Magic Castle to see his act. Sure, the magic was dazzling, but what impressed us the most was how FUNNY he was. And authentic. All of the little hustles Harry did that first season were things he contributed. He was a fun character and the audience loved him, but we worried if we used him too often he wouldn't be as special. I was so thrilled when he then got the starring role in NIGHT COURT. He was getting the spotlight he deserved. We used Harry again the final season of CHEERS. David Isaacs and I were assigned to write the final Bar Wars episode. We thought this would be a perfect time to bring Harry back one last time. In all previous Bar Wars chapters David and I concocted the story. This time Harry was the mastermind. We called him and said we really wanted to put a final exclamation point on the Bar Wars saga. For once we wanted CHEERS to win and we wanted them to win big. We even thought, "What if somehow Gary's Old Towne tavern gets destroyed?" Harry came up with the sting. He was a lovely guy, mischievous as hell, and just naturally hilarious. Okay, Harry, you had your fun. Show yourself. It's too sad otherwise. 5 Link to comment
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