Predictions for the FINAL Season

[Cardie]

Are we not allowed to use the previews for the finale in our speculations? Are they considered spoilers? (Because many people posting here have obviously not seen them.)

[jjj]

1 minute ago, Cardie said:

Are we not allowed to use the previews for the finale in our speculations? Are they considered spoilers? (Because many people posting here have obviously not seen them.)

The previews are fairly extensively discussed in the spoiler thread -- and I can say that I have not seen any actual spoilers there (although the last page of the thread quotes a professional reviewer who apparently makes hints about what she saw in the final episode).  So, if you avert your eyes at the top of the final page, and read the other posts, you will find lots of preview discussion; the previews seem to be spoilers.  (My first time in that thread, this week.)

[duVerre]

On 5/26/2018 at 2:30 PM, companionenvy said:

Elizabeth winds up in jail. Bonus points if our final shot of her is her in a cell, drawing. 

 

I think that's brilliant.

[Cardie]

Perhaps Oleg could be exchanged for the forcibly re-patriated dissident scientist Nina befriended. There would be some symmetry in that.

[Erinishy]

Elizabeth, Philip and Paige try to escape together but the plan ends up a failure. Capture is imminent by the FBI. A diversion must be created, so Philip splits up from Elizabeth and Paige. Philip is captured, and Elizabeth and Paige escape. Elizabeth realizes her cyanide necklace is gone (taken by Philip so he cannot be interrogated and made to betray his country). Philip’s loyalty to his family and his country by taking the final fall to save them are the true ideals of his character.  Elizabeth’s realization makes her appreciate Philip’s wishes for Paige’s and Henry’s lives. The FBI has no evidence of Elizabeth, only Philip, so Paige and Henry can live quiet  lives in America. Elizabeth returns to the USSR, with no family and no mission. Maybe she meets Mischa. 

[companionenvy]

9 hours ago, Erinishy said:

The FBI has no evidence of Elizabeth, only Philip,

They have plenty of evidence that they're chasing a married couple. Even if they couldn't find any smoking gun comparable to the pictures of Philip meeting with Andre, circumstantial evidence would be more than enough to identify her with the female illegal. Not to mention the fact that the whole premise of the second-gen illegals program is that the OG illegals' identities would not withstand the rigorous level of scrutiny needed to get hired by the FBI. Stan didn't find anything last episode because he doesn't yet have either the confidence in his theory or the institutional resources to put the full weight of US intelligence behind his investigation. Once the FBI does start looking into the Jenningses, their identities are going to fall apart in five minutes. If Elizabeth gets to live a quiet life in America, it won't be because no crimes could finally be pinned on her. 

[Plums]

I've been rewatching the entire series, and in season three, we get a couple instances of Henry with his porn stash in the secret compartment under the floorboards of his room, picture of Sandra in a bikini top included. I could totally see the FBI find that stash when they're tearing apart the Jennings house in like the one moment of humor in the final episode, where they find out there's secret compartment and be all "HOLY SHIT WE FOUND ANOTHER SECRET SPY COMPARTMENT" and it turns out to be such a normal teenage boy thing. 

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[hellmouse]

What if the only person who dies in the finale is Renee? And it's because of some dumb thing she did, totally unrelated to being a spy or anything. But Stan overreacts to it and gets in trouble at the FBI. Maybe even fired, or just in a fight with Aderholt.

So at the end, Stan is truly alone - no job, no wife, no best friend. Even if he still has the job, he'd have lost all the people he cared about. Maybe a shot of him sitting alone in his house. 

[BingeyKohan]

8 minutes ago, hellmouse said:

What if the only person who dies in the finale is Renee? And it's because of some dumb thing she did, totally unrelated to being a spy or anything. But Stan overreacts to it and gets in trouble at the FBI. Maybe even fired, or just in a fight with Aderholt.

Ha! Her first day at the FBI she puts metal in the microwave and it blows up on her. That's the last scene.

[Umbelina]

5 hours ago, companionenvy said:

They have plenty of evidence that they're chasing a married couple. Even if they couldn't find any smoking gun comparable to the pictures of Philip meeting with Andre, circumstantial evidence would be more than enough to identify her with the female illegal. Not to mention the fact that the whole premise of the second-gen illegals program is that the OG illegals' identities would not withstand the rigorous level of scrutiny needed to get hired by the FBI. Stan didn't find anything last episode because he doesn't yet have either the confidence in his theory or the institutional resources to put the full weight of US intelligence behind his investigation. Once the FBI does start looking into the Jenningses, their identities are going to fall apart in five minutes. If Elizabeth gets to live a quiet life in America, it won't be because no crimes could finally be pinned on her. 

Gregory's former pawn, who is a "Goddamn American" can ID Elizabeth.  The people they hired in Chicago can ID Elizabeth.  Elizabeth has an unreported gunshot wound.  Elizabeth has a stolen name/ID from a grave as well, which they will know as soon as they do the same kind of back-check they did to find William, only much easier to accomplish, since they would already know the name to search for (her maiden name.)

Aside from that, Paige will crack as easily as an egg, about Elizabeth's KGB self, and the dead General.

I honestly can't see a way that Elizabeth or Philip could live.  The coup people will kill them, the regular KGB may kill them, or the FBI will capture or kill them.

[SunnyBeBe]

So, does anyone know why P and E could not seek refuge at the Russian Embassy?  Either in DC or Canada?  They may have enemies there, but, not as many as on the outside.  What if they have genuine Russian birth certificates and/or official Russian passports? Plus, they would speak fluent Russian.   Could the Embassy keep them from being arrested if they hide them there? 

[Umbelina]

They would not have Russian birth certificates.  They can't even keep Russian stew in the house.

They just killed a member of the Russian DC embassy.

Their escape plan was always Canada, and probably the embassy there.  Now though?  The KGB (or PART of the KGB) would want them dead.

[SunnyBeBe]

Ok. But, wouldn't the US Embassy deny any knowledge or involvement in what Tatiana was trying to do.(At least to outsiders.) I'd think they'd distance themselves from her, claim she lost her mind, went rogue and they are not behind her actions.

The Russian documents would be hidden with their stash stuff. But, only if they had ever planned to go to an Embassy. If not, I don't see the point.  Fake stuff would work better. It's a ways to the Canadian Embassy though. I suppose that the plan that someone else said about them getting tickets through their agency connection works best, but, if they are flagged, how would they get through airport security? 

[Bannon]

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

So, does anyone know why P and E could not seek refuge at the Russian Embassy?  Either in DC or Canada?  They may have enemies there, but, not as many as on the outside.  What if they have genuine Russian birth certificates and/or official Russian passports? Plus, they would speak fluent Russian.   Could the Embassy keep them from being arrested if they hide them there? 

There aren't enemies, other than KGB, who will drag them into a basement, and shoot them in the back of the head. Until they know for a fact that the neostalinists have been purged from the KGB., going to the Soviet Embassy, or even the Soviet Union, would be a bad idea. I hope the writing in the final episode doesn't overlook this reality.

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[sistermagpie]

In the past when the plan was to go to the rez in Canada they probably didn't need documents.  There'd have to be some code word or something to alert the Rezident who had arrived imo.

[Umbelina]

Yeah, presumably Philip will realize the Canada plan is kaput as soon as Elizabeth tells him she killed Tatiana, and spilled her guts to Granny.

[SunnyBeBe]

I wouldn't be so sure that Stan wouldn't use his weapon.  He's put a bullet into an innocent person before, just sitting in a room.  Not a chase or shootout.  Granted, he thought the guy was bad, but, it was pretty brutal.  I would guess that Stan will be pretty upset once things are confirmed.  I suppose this is why the writers had to set up the Jennings to be on the run from some of the KGB AND the FBI, because, if not, they would have had an unfair advantage. lol  

[BingeyKohan]

I am legit nervous for tonight. It's like anticipating a movie I've waited years to come out, and a dentist appointment, and a funeral, and a big vacation, and a visit with a long-lost relative, and a surprise party I sort of know about but am unsure when it might happen, all at the same time. 

[SunnyBeBe]

6 hours ago, BingeyKohan said:

I am legit nervous for tonight. It's like anticipating a movie I've waited years to come out, and a dentist appointment, and a funeral, and a big vacation, and a visit with a long-lost relative, and a surprise party I sort of know about but am unsure when it might happen, all at the same time. 

Me too, but, I've already decided, if I really don't like the outcome, I'll just make my own up.  lol   

[Erin9]

46 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Me too, but, I've already decided, if I really don't like the outcome, I'll just make my own up.  lol   

Works for me. Lol 

[MisterBluxom]

I just want to take this last chance to make my prediction for tonight.

I think this last episode will be all about "the chase". It will likely be one long chase sequence with maybe both the FBI and KGB in pursuit of The Jennings and the viewers will be left in high suspense until the final minutes whether the Jennings will escape or be caught or killed.

Renee will have almost zero screen time and much of the action will consists of edits that cut back and forth from FBI HQ where Stan and Aderholt will narrate the chase for us and explain what is going on.

Edited May 31, 2018 by MissBluxom