Ryan: What the hell happened to him?

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Maybe his parents finally cut him off and he is about to lose everything?

Also Mac leaving him may be a trigger. Also he is older now, the drugs may have a different affect on him. Add in he may owe money to people to fuel his habit, who knows.

OH I remember his girlfriend Dalis, she was around awhile?

I think about a year, circa 2011-2012. She came forward and said he was using when they were dating, which Jen said was "mostly" a lie (paraphrasing, the point is she did not deny all of it, only most of it). I believe it was speculated even as far back as when he was dating Maci that Ryan liked his coke, although no one on the show has ever come right out and said so. I believe it was only admitted Ryan had a problem in 2015-2016, which was when his decline became very obvious.

 

As far as Ryan's life expectancy, I don't think it's long, sadly enough. I think an overdose or accident is very likely. I am worried for anyone else who is on the road when Ryan is driving. I also think Ryan is at the stage of addiction where even if jail forces sobriety, he will right be back at it once out.

[Scarlett45]

8 minutes ago, Tatum said:

I am worried for anyone else who is on the road when Ryan is driving.

I was thinking of that too. He is a danger to everyone else on the road when he drives under the influence. 

[Faceplant]

7 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes that is what I am concerned with. Items can be fixed, if he hurt Mac or the kids or the pets, or his parents- that is not fixable. That he would do that, I wouldn't go anywhere near him. I feel so badly for his children.

On the video, she was telling the officer how Ryan held her up by her neck and held a knife to her in front of the children. It's all so sad. 

 

She also went on to say that she had been dealing with Ryan's drug problem for six years and made sure to specifically point out that she had NO IDEA that Ryan was using drugs until the day AFTER the wedding. Does anyone remember him literally nodding out on the way to the wedding? Mackenzie is absolutely the victim here, but why lie about that detail? 

 

Ryan was sentenced to 11 months and 29 days today by a judge. BTW the judge's daughter went to school with Ryan and the families are friendly. The judge talked about what a fine young man Ryan is and how talented he is at what he does. I can't even begin to imagine what talent that is, but there you go. He has a review hearing in June where the judge can decide to send him back to rehab or keep him in jail. Details are here.

 

Last thing - Mackenzie did not sit with Ryan's parents at court and Jen left crying when Mackenzie came in. There, that's everything. 

 

Edited to add that I can't believe she is only 26 years old, has three children, two divorces, and all this now. At 26, I was having so much fun being young and there is no way I could have dealt with everything Mackenzie has going on. 

Edited April 21, 2023 by Faceplant
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[Marley]

Of course the families know each other and of course Ryan gets a lenient sentence. He will never learn everyone enables him. The only way it’s going to end is with him getting himself killed or if he ends up killing someone else which I of course honestly hope doesn’t happen. What a fucking joke.

What talent does Ryan even have? Pretty sure he hasn’t worked for years. Ugh the judge makes me a bit enraged. Stupid.

[Scarlett45]

23 minutes ago, Faceplant said:

She also went on to say that she had been dealing with Ryan's drug problem for six years and made sure to specifically point out that she had NO IDEA that Ryan was using drugs until the day AFTER the wedding. Does anyone remember him literally nodding out on the way to the wedding? Mackenzie is absolutely the victim here, but why lie about that detail? 

 

I dont know. I had no idea Ryan was a drug user for the longest. I thought he had a TBI and that is why he was behaving that way for so long. Coming from the life I come from and the life experiences I would have, I would assume a TBI or disability of some kind from that behavior before I would suspect drug use. I could believe Mackenzie was naive or thought the drug problem was over/in the past until she was married. 

[Scarlett45]

30 minutes ago, Faceplant said:

Last thing - Mackenzie did not sit with Ryan's parents at court and Jen left crying when Mackenzie came in. There, that's everything. 

 

Good. The man threatened her in front of their children and destroyed the home his children live in. She needs to stay far away from him. Jen knows this is the son she birthed and she is deeply ashamed. She cannot control Ryan now but she can stand up for her grandbabies and their safety.

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Faceplant said:

 

 

She also went on to say that she had been dealing with Ryan's drug problem for six years and made sure to specifically point out that she had NO IDEA that Ryan was using drugs until the day AFTER the wedding. Does anyone remember him literally nodding out on the way to the wedding? Mackenzie is absolutely the victim here, but why lie about that detail? 

 

Ryan was sentenced to 11 months and 29 days today by a judge.

 

Yeah I didn’t buy it back when Mac read that letter out loud to Maci and I don’t buy it now.  And if it’s true- if you find out on day 1 of your marriage that your husband has an active addiction he’s refusing to get treatment for and hid it from you- that’s grounds for annulment. And Mac was bringing a small child into that marriage. 
 

I agree, she’s the victim and I feel sorry for what she’s going through, but I think she’s lying about not knowing. 
 

was the jail sentence for the drug charges or assault? He has both on the docket I think. 

[Faceplant]

39 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I dont know. I had no idea Ryan was a drug user for the longest. I thought he had a TBI and that is why he was behaving that way for so long. Coming from the life I come from and the life experiences I would have, I would assume a TBI or disability of some kind from that behavior before I would suspect drug use. I could believe Mackenzie was naive or thought the drug problem was over/in the past until she was married. 

She was only 20 years old when they got married and so I guess it's possible. Although I would be asking some serious questions if my fiance was nodding out several times while driving to our wedding. I enjoy a good nap, but come on now.

 

It's possible I have watched too many episodes of Intervention and recognize the signs now. Speaking of, there was an early episode of Intervention with a girl named Christy ("she's not misty" in the creepy song her dad sang to her). Anyhow, she was a hardcore meth addict and wrote all these long nonsensical writings and believed she was god. Reminds me of all the crazy writings Ryan left all around his house in the midst of destroying it. He wrote paragraphs and paragraphs on the walls. 

1 minute ago, Tatum said:

was the jail sentence for the drug charges or assault? He has both on the docket I think. 

It was for DUI and possession. I believe the assault charge was dismissed when he agreed to go rehab.

[AstridM]

13 hours ago, Marley said:

Of course the families know each other and of course Ryan gets a lenient sentence. He will never learn everyone enables him. The only way it’s going to end is with him getting himself killed or if he ends up killing someone else which I of course honestly hope doesn’t happen. What a fucking joke.

What talent does Ryan even have? Pretty sure he hasn’t worked for years. Ugh the judge makes me a bit enraged. Stupid.

Yes, what talents does he have and where was he “working?”

[Scarlett45]

49 minutes ago, AstridM said:

Yes, what talents does he have and where was he “working?”

I am not surprised Ryan has some type of job, he hasn't had TM money coming in for a long time, and what else does he do all day. He may have a mechanic job or something in that field (he was doing that when Bentley was born).

His talent was being born with a penis, so obviously the way he terrorized Mackenzie and his children/their stability needs to be forgiven.

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

I am not surprised Ryan has some type of job, he hasn't had TM money coming in for a long time, and what else does he do all day. He may have a mechanic job or something in that field (he was doing that when Bentley was born).

His talent was being born with a penis, so obviously the way he terrorized Mackenzie and his children/their stability needs to be forgiven.

But does/did he actually have a job? I haven’t seen any evidence of that. 

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, AstridM said:

But does/did he actually have a job? I haven’t seen any evidence of that. 

Didn’t they arrest him at work?

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, AstridM said:

But does/did he actually have a job? I haven’t seen any evidence of that. 

23 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Didn’t they arrest him at work?

 

Yes, the article said they arrested him at his place of work. I don't think it said what the workplace was or how long he had been there. He has been employed on and off his entire tenure with MTV. 

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, Tatum said:

 

Yes, the article said they arrested him at his place of work. I don't think it said what the workplace was or how long he had been there. He has been employed on and off his entire tenure with MTV. 

Yeah, until I see evidence that names a workplace I don’t put much stock in those claims.