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Season 17 (2016): Summer is Coming

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SnideAsides

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Somehow, this show is still a thing despite the sheer awfulness of the last two years. It's starting in a couple of weeks, and it's been pretty widely publicised that the big twist is that there are two houses.

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LuvizBlind

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It was interesting to see how players from other countries fared doing Canada's version;  I'd totally be down to watch a couple former BBUS players try to contend with the international versions, and deal with Big Brother as a real entity that metes out punishments and makes them earn their food and comforts.  Not CBB.  A regular season.  :) 

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SnideAsides

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The house looks much better on screen than it did in the photos, which is weird because normally it's the other way around. I do love The Other House though, and I especially love that The Other Diary Room Chair has its colours swapped so the white is on the outside and the black is in the middle.

Really not sold on the cast though. Way too many Z-listers, but I kind of really like Marco Pierre White Jr, which kind of shocked me because I can't stand Marco Sr.

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legaleagle53

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6 hours ago, SnideAsides said:

The house looks much better on screen than it did in the photos, which is weird because normally it's the other way around. I do love The Other House though, and I especially love that The Other Diary Room Chair has its colours swapped so the white is on the outside and the black is in the middle.

Really not sold on the cast though. Way too many Z-listers, but I kind of really like Marco Pierre White Jr, which kind of shocked me because I can't stand Marco Sr.

But this isn't supposed to be a celebrity edition of BBUK.  I thought this was a regular, "nobody" edition.  Are you telling me that these hamsters are all minor celebrities in the UK?

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A few of them, yes. Fired BBC newsreader Andy is legitimately more famous than about 75% of recent CBB celebrities, Alex has a TV show with frequent CBB rumour Vicky Pattison (who was on Geordie Shore, which has already given us two CBB winners), Lateysha was one of the cast members on Welsh Jersey Shore knockoff The Valleys, Laura is a Justin Bieber ex who's also been linked to CBB housemate Calum Best, Andrew is a four-time world kickboxing champion, Ryan was kicked off of The X-Factor last year after somehow being Too Awful For Even Simon Cowell, and Natalie actually has been a CBB rumour for years because of her role as Dominatrix to the Stars. And then pretty much everyone else is a model, DJ/nightclub employee, or Hughie.

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BubblingKettle

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Andrew's bossiness is getting on my nerves. Sure, he has made some valid points...but he always feels the need to command conversations. Marco grosses me out, and he (and Laura) are so thirsty for camera time. Charlie's fake tan -- someone needs to give her some guidance on that. I'm still waiting to see who might be a decent person. 

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legaleagle53

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What I loved last night was Ryan's reaction to seeing Sam in the house.  It reminded me so much of Dustin and Joe from BBUS8 (I think -- that was the season that also introduced us to the infamous Evil Dick).  I was greatly amused to see that Ryan hates Sam as much as Dustin hated Joe.  I can't wait for their first face-to-face confrontation (you just know it's coming!).

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I'm torn on this twist. Obviously I'd like to see, just once, a BBUK twist that didn't go tits up in seconds, but I think the players who switched houses were the right choices. I need Andrew and Ryan out of the game yesterday, but between Andrew overthinking everything and Ryan's white-hot rage for Sam blinding him to the fact that he's one of the more popular people in the house, there's no way on Earth they're going to pass their secret mission (especially when they've already failed the 'keep the Other House a secret' part of it) and become housemates, so I don't mind leaving the other Others in the Other House for a little bit until they're out of the picture (but I need Hughie and Natalie in the main house ASAP). Alex would definitely have been the never-nominated background filler who fails to build up much of a fanbase and finishes last on finale night otherwise, so putting him in danger is good. And Jackson was the best choice of the remaining nominees - Laura/Lateysha/Andy are probably my three favourites in the main house right now, and Chelsea moving would have resulted in either him or Jayne walking.

Also Victoria's walked, which means that between the connections and the prior claims to fame, the only 'traditional' civilian contestants left are Evelyn (who will almost certainly be out the first time she's nominated, by sheer virtue of being female and non-white and non-British) and Hughie (who isn't even a housemate yet).

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SnideAsides

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Oops. I mean, I know the BBUK producers don't bother to check these kind of things (see also: Tequila, Tila), but you'd think they'd put in some effort considering the whole thing with the connections this season.

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LuvizBlind

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Okay; today's episode was a bit much for me.  And that is saying a lot, trust me!    Marco's antics and Laura just going with it?  Eww.  Just eww.   I feel like I need to take a bath in bleach now...  

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legaleagle53

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6 hours ago, LuvizBlind said:

Okay; today's episode was a bit much for me.  And that is saying a lot, trust me!    Marco's antics and Laura just going with it?  Eww.  Just eww.   I feel like I need to take a bath in bleach now...  

Agreed.  I didn't know BBUK was doing softcore porn this summer.  Gross!

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A few years ago someone got kicked out for choking their designated showmance and Channel 5's response, after a full Ofcom investigation (which the Marco/Laura situation is apparently already getting) was basically "WELL WE DIDN'T SHOW YOU THIS BUT a few weeks earlier she said in passing that she liked being choked so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". I suspect they were just covering their own asses there, but still.

 

Speaking of kicked out, though: Andrew. No idea why yet - Channel 5 have claimed it has nothing to do with his history of abusive tweets - but whatever the reason, I'm thankful. Now I just need to get rid of Ryan and Marco.

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legaleagle53

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 5:20 PM, SnideAsides said:

A few years ago someone got kicked out for choking their designated showmance and Channel 5's response, after a full Ofcom investigation (which the Marco/Laura situation is apparently already getting) was basically "WELL WE DIDN'T SHOW YOU THIS BUT a few weeks earlier she said in passing that she liked being choked so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". I suspect they were just covering their own asses there, but still.

 

Speaking of kicked out, though: Andrew. No idea why yet - Channel 5 have claimed it has nothing to do with his history of abusive tweets - but whatever the reason, I'm thankful. Now I just need to get rid of Ryan and Marco.

According to comments on YouTube, Andrew got kicked out because a video surfaced of him beating a girl with a belt.  Now if only Marco would get kicked out so he can beam back up to whatever planet he comes from (and while we're at it, can we send Chelsea back to 1968 where he belongs?  He looks like a refugee from a Star Trek convention from that year!)

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Yeah, I find it a bit hard to believe that "Andrew getting kinky with a belt" is why he was kicked out when it's basically both What Marco Did (and in Marco's case, the show would have been liable if something went wrong) and Why Celebrity Dominatrix Natalie Is Even In The Fucking House. I wasn't a fan of Andrew's in the slightest, but he is totally a scapegoat for the twist's hilarious catastrofail.

Nominations: Andy, Georgina, Emma, Marco. It's a vote to evict, so it's almost certainly going to be Marco (which would make him the first male first evictee in a civilian season ever, if you can believe it), buuuut the show's had a relationship with Marco Senior since his cameo in CBB8, and BOTS is already starting an anti-Georgina campaign. If they follow it up with a hacky edit on the highlights tomorrow, the show's traditional anti-women voters (this year given corporeal representation in the form of Charlie) mean she might stupidly get booted instead.

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Jaded

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26 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

Is it wrong that I got slightly turned on by the sight of Hughie and Ryan making out at the end of the episode?

Not at all. They were actually interesting to watch together compared to the clusterfuck this season is in such a short time.

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legaleagle53

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1 hour ago, Jaded said:

I'm just hoping Marco stays gone.

Oh, he's out for good. Otherwise, we'd have been told (and shown) that he had become an Other and would be moving back into the main house with them tomorrow (which is what Chelsea kept hoping would happen, and he was pissed off that Marco didn't come down the stairs after being evicted).

And Hughie for the win!  I can see that he sees right through Ryan's bullcrap and isn't having any of it.  But what's the deal with him and Natalie?  She seems hell-bent on making his life miserable!

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Nominees: Natalie, Hughie, Charlie.

Natalie's obviously getting the boot - the voters are typically not fans of women, black people, or older housemates - and I can't say I'll be sad to get rid of her, but I really think it'd be better if we got rid of Charlie right now. Natalie's going to get nominated again next week if she survives, while Charlie could skirt by and ruin the whole season with her bunnyboiler subplot.

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legaleagle53

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I'm on the "Anybody but Hughie" train.  Natalie has had it in for him since she met him for some reason, and I think she's got some nerve calling HIM a hot-tempered troublemaker when all she's done since she got into the main house has been to spread lies about him behind his back to the regular housemates -- and then there was that bit with Jason where she tried to bully him into admitting that HE had nominated her.  Good riddance.

And no, I wouldn't miss Charlie and her duck lips, either.  Hon, do us all a favor and get yourself a copy of "He's Just Not That into You."  And then read it.  Often.

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I'm genuinely curious about whether the housemates are allowed to vote in the Brexit referendum. The last time a UK election was held during a BB season was 2001 and they were allowed to vote then (as fitting the tradition of reality shows being overly safe with their second-season casting, most of them voted Conservative, sigh), but this is a different situation. Obviously Andy would vote Remain and I suspect Lateysha would too (Remain is FAR more popular in the non-England bits of the country), and Jayne/Chelsea/Charlie are totally the sort of people who'd fall for UKIP's bullshit, but I have no idea on the rest.

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Nominees: Jayne, Andy, Georgina, Evelyn.

Twitter's generally been pretty accurate this season, which would suggest Georgina being booted in a landslide, but I feel like Evelyn is a possibility now that the Brexit result seems to have empowered the racists and xenophobes in Britain. (Um, even more than usual for this show.)

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Matteo

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I'd be fine with any of them going, honestly.  I don't hate Georgina nearly as much as most, but she has been working my last nerve lately, and getting super possessive and clingy with Jackson, who is doing himself no favors by proclaiming to "love" her so soon.  I know the BB house is a microcosm and these things get blown way out of hand, but seriously, they've known each other like 20 days. I get so tired of the showmances...

Jayne just needs to sit down and breathe and stop flying off the handle.  Evelyn too.  I can see why they all think she's trying too hard.  She does seem most genuine in her friendship moments with Laura, who has turned things around nicely for herself after Marco was evicted.

Andy still seems like a snake. I feel like he thinks he's better than everyone in the house and is just tired of pretending to be nice to them.  It would be exhausting to be around so many people you don't like or have nothing in common with, so it's understandable, but not very enjoyable to watch.

If I had to say "Which housemate is the most fake?" It would probably be Ryan at this point.  I don't think there's anything genuine in his interest in Hughie, other than to give himself more screentime and to try and get closer to someone who seems to have a good audience reception thus far.  Ryan can be entertaining, but he's exhausting and seems desperate, like he'd do anything to win/be popular in the house.

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legaleagle53

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7 hours ago, Matteo said:

If I had to say "Which housemate is the most fake?" It would probably be Ryan at this point.  I don't think there's anything genuine in his interest in Hughie, other than to give himself more screentime and to try and get closer to someone who seems to have a good audience reception thus far.  Ryan can be entertaining, but he's exhausting and seems desperate, like he'd do anything to win/be popular in the house.

Oh, I don't know about that.  Hughie gives Ryan back exactly what he gets from him.  I personally think it's refreshing to see them teasing each other while at the same time acknowledging that they do like each other.  Their sense of humor and understanding of the importance of keeping things light and drama-free is refreshing in the face of the constant boring drama that is Jackson/Georgina and Jason/Charlie (um, Jason?  If you really want to make it clear to Charlie that you're just not that into her anymore and never will be, a good way to start might not be letting her sleep with you and cuddle with you every night. It's no wonder that she refuses to take the hint!).

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8 hours ago, SnideAsides said:

I'm not so sure about Rughie, but there is no way in hell Chayne are surviving this.

Chayne?  That's never been a thing, so there's nothing to survive.  Jayne demanded an apology from Chelsea the first time they encountered each other in the other house for lying to her about his marital status (he's married but apparently claimed that he wasn't in an effort to elevate his friendship with Jayne into something sexual, and she wouldn't have any of it), and he flatly refused to apologize to her. Not much of a ship there, from what I can tell.

Nope, I think Jacksina will be the casualty of the house massacre (assuming that Georgina doesn't get the boot on Friday), together with possibly either Charlie or Jason (my money would be on Charlie; Jason appears to be popular both in the house as the de facto "dad" figure and with viewers as one of the nicest housemates) and Andy (last night's meltdown notwithstanding -- I think viewers will keep him over Georgina for now, but I don't think they really feel that sorry for him).

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OK, how did Andy fly under my gaydar for so long?  I honestly had no idea before today's episode that he was gay.  *smacks gaydar hard out of sheer frustration*

Is this why I'm still single at 55 -- defective gaydar since birth? *kicks gaydar*

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I'm sure he did.  It's just weird that I somehow missed that bit of information about both him and Ryan (although I thought I understood from one of the early shows that Ryan and Sam used to date and it ended badly, which is why Ryan hated Sam so much in the beginning, although that seems to have been forgotten now), but it somehow didn't escape my attention when it came to Hughie.

For that matter, I wasn't even sure that I'd understood correctly regarding Sam, since he didn't really ping my gaydar either.  I guess I'm so used to the flamboyant gay stereotypes that inhabit the US version that the "straight looking and acting" guys on the British version completely escape my notice unless I actually see them making out with other guys (which is how I finally did the math regarding Ryan and then from there figured it out about Sam -- but even then, I wasn't sure about Sam until he expressly admitted to being gay during his conversation with Andy!).  *kicks gaydar again in disgust*

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I have been completely horrified by the vitriolic response to Andy's outburst over Hughie and Ryan's 'engagement'. That fuckwit Kerry Katona on BOTS "Oooer, Andy, they're being stoned *snort snort*" Holy fucking hell have people completely lost their humanity??!! I get that it is something of an overreaction on Andy's part, considering its proximity to his own engagement. But shit, if you don't have the brain cells to be able to see that Andy sees his engagement to his boyfriend within the context of all the horrors that have gone before him - and that still continue in some nations - then there's no hope. Clearly he has been thinking on the profundity of his act - his understanding of his privilege, and a recognition of all those before him who were murdered or lived in shame their entire lives and who were denied the right that he had just enjoyed. And then these two ignorant attention seekers turn up, lampooning the whole thing - not to be nasty, but just because they barely share two synapses between them - and that whole tragic history that Andy sees himself within is instantly ridiculed. But rather than people at the very least seeing their joke as in poor taste - it's ANDY that's the monster. I don't know that I've ever seen a more distasteful display of ignorance on the show before. I'm speechless. And I don't doubt he'll get the arse this week because of it. Utterly, utterly appalling.

This is the poem he wrote 3 years ago on the subject at the moment of Britain's marriage equality ruling. Should have got that ignorant cow Katona to read the whole damn thing on air to give her some perspective. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/equal-marriage-in-memory-of-the-countless-dead-who-could-not-marry-8480102.html

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5 hours ago, Shock Corridor said:

I have been completely horrified by the vitriolic response to Andy's outburst over Hughie and Ryan's 'engagement'. That fuckwit Kerry Katona on BOTS "Oooer, Andy, they're being stoned *snort snort*" Holy fucking hell have people completely lost their humanity??!! I get that it is something of an overreaction on Andy's part, considering its proximity to his own engagement. But shit, if you don't have the brain cells to be able to see that Andy sees his engagement to his boyfriend within the context of all the horrors that have gone before him - and that still continue in some nations - then there's no hope. Clearly he has been thinking on the profundity of his act - his understanding of his privilege, and a recognition of all those before him who were murdered or lived in shame their entire lives and who were denied the right that he had just enjoyed. And then these two ignorant attention seekers turn up, lampooning the whole thing - not to be nasty, but just because they barely share two synapses between them - and that whole tragic history that Andy sees himself within is instantly ridiculed. But rather than people at the very least seeing their joke as in poor taste - it's ANDY that's the monster. I don't know that I've ever seen a more distasteful display of ignorance on the show before. I'm speechless. And I don't doubt he'll get the arse this week because of it. Utterly, utterly appalling.

This is the poem he wrote 3 years ago on the subject at the moment of Britain's marriage equality ruling. Should have got that ignorant cow Katona to read the whole damn thing on air to give her some perspective. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/equal-marriage-in-memory-of-the-countless-dead-who-could-not-marry-8480102.html

Exactly.  And it didn't help that Hughie himself made things worse by losing his temper in response.  The problem is that Hughie and Ryan are just too young to understand or appreciate the struggle that previous generations went through and are still going through in many parts of the world.  Andy's experienced homophobia first-hand in a way that they, thankfully, never really will (he was fired from his job because he apparently spoke out against a notorious homophobe whose name escapes me at the moment), so the whole issue is a VERY sore subject with him.

I adore Hughie and Ryan and want one of them to win if Andy doesn't, but they have a LOT to learn.  And Hughie needs to sort out his anger-management issues NOW if he wants to have any kind of relationship with Ryan, or with anyone else, for that matter.

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Tyson Fury.

Emma's being ejected for trying to break into the camera runs again, which: honestly, they really should have done that in Week 1 when everyone ruined the big twist, but sure. Anything that (1) gets rid of the filler people from this cast and (2) stops people from breaking out for attention is OK in my books.

Nominees: Charlie, Chelsea, Jason. It is frankly incredible that Andy survived after his meltdown the other day (although Ryan and Hughie were the only two people who nominated him), but I'm very happy he did. He'll absolutely get booted in the massacre next week though, so it's a small victory. I'm really torn on the actual nominees though - Chelsea is easily my least favourite housemate in years, but the Charlie/Jason dynamic is suffocating and I need it gone ASAP.

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Charlie's gone, and... eh. I can't believe we haven't lost a single man since Marco, who left so long ago it doesn't even feel like it's the same season.

Anyone else thinking these mid-week evictions are just going to send the booted players into the Other House and give them immunity from nominations? Unless the producers do something to rig it, we're pretty much just going to have that big clique get to the final otherwise.

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My favorite part of today's show was Chelsea coloring his hair, so much so I had so screencap it. Now we've seen why he wears it in that Legoman style. 

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