All Episodes Talk: Goodnight Everyone

[Rhondinella]

Talk about the show here.

 

A place to discuss particular episodes, arcs and moments from the show's run. Please remember this isn't a complete catch-all topic -- check out the forum for character topics and other places for show-related talk.

Edited May 2, 2014 by aquarian1
Update description and purpose of thread.

[bigskygirl]

The same clothes washing detergent (Safe) that was use in the one Brady Bunch episode was on a shelf on Ike's store.  I guess the soap was able to stand the test of time.

[zivadanielle]

So, Hallmark finally finished with the final season episodes featuring Faux John-Boy last week.  On to season 1, yay!

Last night one of the episodes was The Sinner introducing Reverend Jack Tripper Fordwick.  I don't remember seeing it as a kid, what a fun performance.   Also, I knew the missionary lady looked familiar--she was the girl with the chifferobe in To Kill a Mockingbird, and in at least one Twilight Zone episode that I can remember.

[Tim McD]

Last night one of the episodes was The Sinner introducing Reverend Jack Tripper Fordwick.  I don't remember seeing it as a kid, what a fun performance.

 

 

I agree, one of the best episodes I think and a testament to John Ritter's talent. He is flat out hilarious in this one; practicing his fire and brimstone in the yard (while the kids look on in befuddlement) and later drunkenly falling off the truck a la Jack Tripper.  The scene where he gets loaded on the recipe should be required viewing for acting classes; his subtle transition from sober to very tipsy is masterful.

[DoughGirl]

Watched "The Emergence" where Marcia Woolery comes back to Walton's Mountain. Why does everyone always call her Marcia Woolery instead of just Marcia? It's not like there's another Marcia on the mountain.

Edited May 3, 2014 by DoughGirl

[zivadanielle]

I saw most of "The Cloudburst" last night.  At the end when Shelby says he is going to keep John Boy's land until the time "all you birdwatchers and flower lovers are gone" he's downright sinister!  SCARY. 

 

Also, the scene when John Boy espies the workers decimating the landscape for the mining operation--it seemed almost like footage from a documentary or something.  But again, terrifying.  I guess I am a hippy-flower -lover. 

[Ubiquitous]

Also, the scene when John Boy espies the workers decimating the landscape for the mining operation--it seemed almost like footage from a documentary or something. 

Have you seen the ep in which John Boy watches the footage of The Hindenburg whilst someone throws burning newspapers at him?

[Tim McD]

They had this one shot of Chance the cow mooing they used about a million times.

[DoughGirl]

Yes! Every time Jim Bob sounded that obnoxious horn. I could have wrapped it around his head, whether it was from a Rolls Royce or not.

[DoughGirl]

I'm pretty sure Reckless changed gender too, male into female so they could have "her" have puppies (well a puppy) to fit neatly in with Erin being all upset over Mary Ellen' pregnancy. Of course she has the puppy on Erin's bed, mom and just born pup on a spotlessly clean white quilt.

Erin really irks me in that episode. Whining over Mary Ellen getting her figure back and waddling like a duck. "I'm never getting married." Girl needed to get a life.

And Curt shoveling bread into his mouth after telling Mary Ellen she can't have one slice because she's getting too fat. Bad enough if he himself wasn't cramming chunks into his own face right in front of her. I'd have smashed that bread in his face. I know people like Curt because he stood up to the Waltons but I think he was a first class A-Hole.

[bigskygirl]

Mary Ellen put a curse on him and broke his weiner. I take Curt over Jonesey.

[DoughGirl]

I think Curt's broken wiener = Karma.

[DoughGirl]

What a bitch Livvie could be in the earlier episodes.

John Boy works for The Baldwins to surprise her with a washing machine and when she finds out about it, the second thing out if her mouth is sanctimonious disapproval of "the recipe".

Ungrateful, holier than thou witch.

[DoughGirl]

Jamie, "The Minstrel" has got to be the WORST guest character. God, I hate that lantern jawed, self absorbed, pretentious fink!

I know the word fink dates me, but it is just perfect for him.

[Maherjunkie]

I fault ME more for being stupid and dangerous.

[DoughGirl]

It boggles my mind how John and Livvie act upon being told that ME has run off at thirteen with a man in his twenties. Jim Bob says not to worry because ME is the best fighter in school and Livvie just gives a weary smile and tells the kids to go wash up.

I know they were tired from picking apples, but if my parents had heard something like that they'd have been out and after me in a flash and "Jamie" might have found himself picking up his teeth. Even Grandma is pretty laid back about it.

[DoughGirl]

Come to think of it, my parents wouldn't have let me go roaming off to Maude Gormley's with some strange twenty something guy at thirteen either.

ME always got away with murder.

[bigskygirl]

She ended up marrying a man who left her because of a broken weiner, and she ended up with Jonesy, who takes off to the Vietnam War. The girl got karma big time.

[Maherjunkie]

Does Jonesy survive?  I thought it was John Curtis.

[Tim McD]

The Gypsies is a really bad episode. Surprisingly it's from the first season; it seems to belong with those terrible late season episodes that aired as the show was running out of gas. Watch it if you can; for Waltons fans it's 45 minutes of WTF???

[DoughGirl]

I've watched it, and tried to avoid it ever since.

[DoughGirl]

Does anyone else not get what John Boy sees in that horrible Sis Bradford girl that steals his chemistry notebook? She was not THAT beautiful to make up for her snottyness. Livvie was right on about her.

[Blergh]

Does anyone else not get what John Boy sees in that horrible Sis Bradford girl that steals his chemistry notebook? She was not THAT beautiful to make up for her snottyness. Livvie was right on about her.

 

 

I agree- and I was hoping we'd get a scene in which he'd driven her all the way to the framed boy's farm, made her tell the boy's unjust dad what she pulled and had JohnBoy, the boy and his dad ALL scream in her face about what a stupid, snotty person she was who only cared about not being ignored for a few minutes rather than what happened to anyone else.

[GrtGzu]

I'd like to know what he saw in that older woman author he fell in love with - she was no prize and definately not worth writing back home about.....Can't believe he was gonna run off with her...

[DoughGirl]

I'd like to know what he saw in that older woman author he fell in love with - she was no prize and definately not worth writing back home about.....Can't believe he was gonna run off with her...

I always thought that but didn't want to say so. She looked like an alien and was a snooty, self important bitch.

[Blergh]

Agree that John-Boy never really had good taste or sense re those he fell but I never got why he was so bonkers over Marsha Woolery hovering over her like a puppy for table scraps even after she managed to help cause his ankle to get broken. She had less depth than a mosquito's reflection on an oil slick.

[Maherjunkie]

What did NY woman do/say that was so bad?

[DoughGirl]

What did NY woman do/say that was so bad?

Ugh! Where do I start? For one thing, she was so self absorbed. Every conversation was about her and her writing. And "Oh please let it be that nice boy meeting me rather than some little college girl who thinks she wants to be ME." Snooty bitch.

[oceanblue]

But The Woman PUT OUT.  JB didn't care how snooty she was.

[DoughGirl]

But The Woman PUT OUT. JB didn't care how snooty she was.

That was the only reason I could think of as to what the fascination was. But he seemed smitten with her from the start. She was so snooty to Professor Park's wife too, with her superior attitude.

[GrtGzu]

What I'd like to know is if they didn't have much money and Grandma and Livvie were always quick to put down women with "paitned faces" then why was Livvie wearing MAKEUP sometimes? In some of these shows, you can clearly see EYESHADOW (blue) and FALSE EYELASHES....I've even seen Grandma sporting a touch of lipstick sometimes too...

 

Livvie wasn't going anywhere either...She was just around the house...with a "painted face".....

[DoughGirl]

What I'd like to know is if they didn't have much money and Grandma and Livvie were always quick to put down women with "paitned faces" then why was Livvie wearing MAKEUP sometimes? In some of these shows, you can clearly see EYESHADOW (blue) and FALSE EYELASHES....I've even seen Grandma sporting a touch of lipstick sometimes too...

Livvie wasn't going anywhere either...She was just around the house...with a "painted face".....

I've noticed this too. Heavy duty upper and lower lash eye liner and mascara on Mary Ellen when she got to a certain age. I guess they thought it would look natural if if were just liner and mascara but nope.

And if it was sinful to dye your hair how come Livvie's hair went from red to blond?

[bigskygirl]

The two part fire episodes are on. Talk about scary.

[Maherjunkie]

Was it the heater or a pipe?

[DoughGirl]

I vote for the heater.

John Boy was having a hard time keeping that pipe lit when he was drawing on it. Seems like it would have gone out in the china dish he left it on, whereas the heater was definitely running.

[Tim McD]

That scene where he first lights up the pipe in front of his family is hilarious. Olivia's face looks like it's about to split.

[DoughGirl]

Another WTF Waltons screw up: while Grandma is in the hospital every visitor comes home saying Grandma says this, Grandma says that, Grandma says, Grandma says... "That's our Esther" says Zeb. Or someone is off to the hospital and Zeb says "Ask Esther where she hid my wool socks." Then home comes Grandma unable to talk because of her stroke and they do a whole episode about her struggle with not being able to speak. I know the writers couldn't foresee Ellen Corby's eventual return but it still seems sloppy to me. Couldn't they have said she'd had a stroke instead of just speaking of her being in the hospital with some vague unknown illness?

[Maherjunkie]

Last night I saw some of the one where Jonesy meets Mary Ellen.  He appeared to have some sort of injury.  If I am correct, why does Ben want him to work in the mill for awhile?

[Maherjunkie]

And they were all douchey when Jason wanted to reopen the Dew Drop Inn.  He might be making money during the Depression, you c@ntmonsters, and you're worried about what "momma" would say cause it's where people drink?

[DoughGirl]

Just for shits and giggles I watched the episode of Curt's broken wiener again for the first time in years. Just terrible and it made no sense at all. Why was Betty okay with his broken wiener, and if she was, why didn't Curt think Mary Ellen might be? And why would a broken wiener make him turn away from medicine? If he hung out with other doctors maybe someone could have come up with a cure for him. And why would it cause him to not see his only son? And the actor that played fake Curt made real Curt look devastatingly handsome. (Sorry fake Curt actor)

Why couldn't they have just done an episode of Mary Ellen meeting a new guy?

[Maherjunkie]

Silly DG that would have been too simple!

[GrtGzu]

I wanna know why John and Livvie felt the need to bail Ike's stupid ass out for buying those jake-flake refridgerators? It's like Livvie said- they wouldn't have done such for them if it they needed help....

 

 I'll NEVER understand WHY he never bothered to PLUG ONE OF THEM IN to see if they worked.....I was also shocked that John told Ike that if he needed one, he would just go to Charlottesville and get it instead of getting one from Ike....He must have known better - bwaaaaahhhh!!!!

 

And yeah, Marcia FOOLERY was so out of place with that "hooker couture" she was sporting.....and NOBODY wound up with the good reverend anyway.....Why do pastors come and go on the Mountain anyway?

[GrtGzu]

Then home comes Grandma unable to talk because of her stroke and they do a whole episode about her struggle with not being able to speak. I know the writers couldn't foresee Ellen Corby's eventual return but it still seems sloppy to me. Couldn't they have said she'd had a stroke instead of just speaking of her being in the hospital with some vague unknown illness?

I heard that EC was the one who actually wrote the script dialouge for when Esther came home and they let her play it out onscreen....It was also mentioned on one of those "reunion" specials too...

[DoughGirl]

I heard that EC was the one who actually wrote the script dialouge for when Esther came home and they let her play it out onscreen....It was also mentioned on one of those "reunion" specials too...

Don't have a problem with the Grandma comes home part. Ellen Corby had difficulty speaking regardless of who wrote the script. It's the whole "Grandma is in the hospital with a vague unknown illness but is gabbing away" stuff that came before. Seems it would have made more sense to say she'd had a stroke as Ellen Corby did.

Edited August 27, 2014 by DoughGirl

[Maherjunkie]

It figures she's the smart one.

[Tim McD]

In the episode that was being filmed when Corby had her stroke, she appears in a couple of scenes early on and that's it. What was weird was how they tried to cover for her by having Grandpa speak to her off camera. For instance you see Grandpa go into their bedroom and say, "Here I am Esther," which is bizarre because nobody ever does that.

[Maherjunkie]

Maybe he wanted to prepare her for a romantic romp.

[DoughGirl]

In the episode that was being filmed when Corby had her stroke, she appears in a couple of scenes early on and that's it. What was weird was how they tried to cover for her by having Grandpa speak to her off camera. For instance you see Grandpa go into their bedroom and say, "Here I am Esther," which is bizarre because nobody ever does that.

Yep, in The Ferris Wheel. Another time he says to an off camera Grandma, "Esther, she's gone again". It would have been funny to hear the voice of Grandma come back with "Good riddance!"

Edited August 28, 2014 by DoughGirl

[DoughGirl]

The dress Livvie makes for Elizabeth in "The Yearning" is one of the ugliest dresses I've ever seen, and for being whipped up by Waltons Mountain's most talented seamstress, it looks like a home ec project.

[oceanblue]

Is that the one where John Boy shows his psychiatric prowess by diagnosing why Elizabeth is afraid of the carnival AND his detective skills when he solves the crime?  I was distracted by my annoyance.