S05.E02: Yes

[Oblique Angle]

As for the surprise ending...don't name the episode "Yes" if you want it to be an actual surprise.

Maybe Shonda et al didn't want it to be a surprise. So far this season (starting with the end of last season's finale) is shaping up to be mostly Olitz fan service, IMO. The Olitzers are this show's bread and butter and I think SR realized that she needed to do something to bring them back on board with greater hope that Liv and Fitz are destined to be the end game. Outing them as a couple makes that possibility more likely. That is unless Olivia regains her self-respect and leaves him once and for all, or Fitz suffers a fiery death after being caught on live TV in bed with three under-aged prostitutes and a farm animal.

 

The investigation may uncover the President being blackmailed because of Olivia and the resulting loss of life.

Yep. His using the military to rescue his girlfriend crossed a definite line.

 

And did she think what she did to Fitz's kids?

I don't think she cares much for the kids and regards them as collateral damage. They'll be "handled" like everything else that gets in her and Fitz' way.

[WatchrTina]

 

please cut out the Olivia and Fitz crap. It makes my eyes hurt.

But . . . that's the central premise of the whole show.  It's never been about Olivia Pope -- DC fixer extraordinaire.  It's always always been about this really smart woman who made one very bad mistake (falling in love with and having an affair with a presidential candidate.)

 

That "Yes" at the end was a shocker and I'm curious to see how it plays out but I smell a fake-out.  Somehow that "yes" will be undone.

 

I must say, the people around the President really do need to get their shit together.  Abby announcing that Fitz wouldn't be attending Mellie's swearing-in while he's actually there was absurd.  So to have that kind of contradictory messaging happen AGAIN with Olivia's "Yes" undermining Fitz & Mellei's simultaneous interview is just . . . bad.  How did this guy get re-elected with this team?  Oh yeah . . .  dead kid.

Edited October 4, 2015 by WatchrTina

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

Scandal Gets So Close, And Yet....
When the public finds out about Olitz, Olivia goes on the run by taking on a new case, and it seems like she might have decided she doesn't want to deal with Fitz's drama anymore.

[politichick]

I must say, the people around the President really do need to get their shit together.  Abby announcing that Fitz wouldn't be attending Mellie's swearing-in while he's actually there was absurd.  So to have that kind of contradictory messaging happen AGAIN with Olivia's "Yes" undermining Fitz & Mellei's simultaneous interview is just . . . bad.  How did this guy get re-elected with this team?  Oh yeah . . .  dead kid.

The whole scene was bullshit. Once he decided to attend the swearing-in, an updated pool report would have been sent out by the WH press shop that Abby heads to every reporter who covers the president letting them know that Fitz is on the move. That is the process and they definitely wouldn't have circumvented it because the whole point of his going to the damn thing was optics.

 

The show has definitely lost its glory but if I never hear the words B6-13 I'm cool. At least there's a case of the week. Still...

[TV Diva Queen]

Am I the only one that thinks Olivia's "YES" was sarcastic?  As is , "Yes, I'm having an affair with the President, the most powerful person in the world.  Me, having an affair with the President?  Really??" 

[Chicago Redshirt]

If Shonda refuses to kill off Fitz, can he at least be kicked in the balls by Susan or Abby? His rudeness and unprofessionalism towards them was so disgusting.

Throwing away her career and reputation to be outed as a mistress. Yeah, that's real smart.

When she bemoaned her current state to Jake, I wanted to slap her. Really Liv?! You fuck a married man that happens to be president and keep going back to him even after 1) he murdered someone, 2) you thought he killed your mother, 3) he told your father how much he enjoys "tasting you" (vomit), 4) your father murdered his son, and 5) he imprisoned your other boyfriend and beat him up....and you STILL don't think your own actions brought you here?! Really?!

In fairness to Liv,

 

With regard to 1, I don't know if she knows about the killing of the Supreme Court justice and the people he killed during Remington were not "murdered" per se, nor were the hundreds of American and foreign lives killed during the Great War of Side-Piece Protection. Also, of the people she knows, pretty much all of them have murdered someone or tried to have someone murdered.

 

With regard to 2, her mother was evil, so killing her is at least hypothetically excusable.

 

With regard to 3, let's hope Liv doesn't know about that, because yeesh. I suppose if Fitz or Papa Pope told her, Fitz could just be like "I totally didn't mean that, and I was just trying to get under his skin. Boy, did that not end well."

 

With regard to 4, yeah, in the real world, Liv should be wracked with guilt because Papa Pope was pulling a Wishmaster and killed Li'l Jerry to fulfill Olivia's desire to keep Fitz in the White House. But she got over it. 

 

I got nothing for 5. Seeing how quick Fitz was to abuse his power and imprison someone as an enemy combatant who he knew was innocent all to get back at him for daring to hook up with his sidepiece should be a permanent turnoff.

[Spartan Girl]

Liv DOES know Fitz killed Verna Bloom. That's why they broke up in the season 2 finale.

And she found out about Fitz shooting down her mother's plane BEFORE she found out that she was evil (and alive). Yet she still got over it and went back to him long before she found out she was alive

Edited October 5, 2015 by Spartan Girl