lembergwatcher March 18, 2019 Share March 18, 2019 Yeah, I know you feel very uncomfortable making all those jokes with slight hints of lesbian sex in Buffy's body, Faith. Too bad you didn't hear about Roscoe the weight lifter. Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 20, 2019 Share March 20, 2019 (edited) Yeah, you are, Harm. A villain. That's my dream team for taking over Sunnydale and the world: Harmony, Spike, Glory, Caleb, the Trio. Edited March 20, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 21, 2019 Share March 21, 2019 (edited) So, no "Charllie Brown Christmas" this time, Will? You decided to follow in your daddy's footsteps all of a sudden? Edited March 21, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
Halting Hex March 22, 2019 Share March 22, 2019 (edited) [Redacted. Even what I consider utterly repulsive speech—to the point where there are laws against it throughout Europe—is still arguably "political" speech, and as we've got a "no politics" rule here, my venting about it is perhaps a violation. So…never mind. Sorry to anyone who saw the original post.] Edited March 22, 2019 by Halting Hex Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 22, 2019 Share March 22, 2019 "The hell with Giles!" - got to be the series' new motto. Link to comment
Halting Hex March 23, 2019 Share March 23, 2019 Cordelia. Unique in her uniqueness. Or something. ❤️ Link to comment
Halting Hex March 23, 2019 Share March 23, 2019 I swear, I loved Spike, once. Memories… Link to comment
Halting Hex March 26, 2019 Share March 26, 2019 (edited) Per my comment in the BtVS in the Media thread: Arguably the most quintessential shot of the entire series (and so maddening the "remaster" loses Angel's hand here because they're pushing in to crop the image to 16x9). Pure evil ("There is no humanity in him") versus the show's avatar of innocence ("Well, I'm upset and I can't think of a bad word right now…"), the looming danger that poses the question, how do we maintain our innate positivity and decency in the face of all the world can throw at us? And thus the basic justification of Buffy as a character; that she has "the strength to fight the forces of darkness" without becoming one of them. That she can battle evil on a level Willow can't even imagine, and still connect to Willow (and the others) and retain her humanity. (Yes, this requires us to ignore what happens to both Buffy and Willow on UPN, but I always argue in favor of that idea, as a general principle.) ETA: Except there ain't no "it's" in the dialogue! FFS, now the screencappers are just making stuff up! Holy facepalm… Edited March 26, 2019 by Halting Hex Link to comment
Halting Hex March 28, 2019 Share March 28, 2019 Should I point out that it took me about a dozen viewings of School Hard before I realized that Snyder was likely referring to the fire that wiped out Daryl and his "bride" at the end of last episode? (I thought he was, like Flutie in WttH, talking about the Hemery High gym, until I finally figured out the Troll would be a bit more focused on Buffy's latest episode in pyromania, not only because it was more recent, but because it happened on his watch.) Of course, it also took me about that long to twig that the episode title wasn't meant to emulate Barbie's "Math is Hard" complaint, but rather as a tribute to Die Hard. ("It's like Die Hard, but in a school! It's School Hard!") Something about this episode just makes me thick, I guess. I'd like to blame Spike, as in this bit during the "mourning Willow" scene from Döppelgängland: Quote XANDER: This is all my fault. GILES (confused): How do you figure that? XANDER: I don't know…statistical probability? (deleted lines in bold) …but even I'll admit that might be stretching things. Spike showing up and my brain going on vacation could just be a coincidence, even if Buffy doesn't believe in those. (Hey, at least I'm not claiming leprechauns!) Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 28, 2019 Share March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Halting Hex said: Should I point out that it took me about a dozen viewings of School Hard before I realized that Snyder was likely referring to the fire that wiped out Daryl and his "bride" at the end of last episode? (I thought he was, like Flutie in WttH, talking about the Hemery High gym, until I finally figured out the Troll would be a bit more focused on Buffy's latest episode in pyromania, not only because it was more recent, but because it happened on his watch.) Wow. I never noticed Chris and Eric performed their "surgical interventions" or whatever on school property. But wasn't Buffy's recent "pyromaniac addiction" a good enough reason to kick her out of Sunnydale High without all those "intimate chats" in principal's office? Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 28, 2019 Share March 28, 2019 (edited) Willow loves Xander's mirror ball. That's truly cute 💕😘 Or perhaps mirror ball is just an excuse for something else?.. Giles is a dick, as usual, though. Don't know why numerous fanfiction writers like to explore "Xander viewing Tweed Boy as some sort of adult role model/father figure" topic when in fact Giles' attitude towards Xander has always been dismissive. Edited March 28, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
Halting Hex March 29, 2019 Share March 29, 2019 17 hours ago, lembergwatcher said: Wow. I never noticed Chris and Eric performed their "surgical interventions" or whatever on school property. It's a little confusing, because we've also seen them prepping "Daryl's girl" in the Epps basement, and the set designer didn't make them visually distinct enough, IMO. But it's clearly covered in the episode: Quote BUFFY: He was here, Chris. Where did he take her? CHRIS: To the rest of the body. To the lab. BUFFY: Where is that? CHRIS: I promised him that I... BUFFY: Look, he'll kill Cordelia! You can't just give and take lives like that. It's not your job. CHRIS: He's in the old science lab. Everything's set up there. I grant you that it's an outbuilding (down by the playing field, it seems) and it's abandoned, and it's a classroom, so "the old lab" might not be prominent in Buffy's mind…but still. You go to school pretty much every weekday, Buffy. You might want to know what's where, by now. Even if "this is a big school", as Xander claims in Out of Mind, Out of Sight. Take a day and learn your way around the place, Slayer. Sheesh. Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 29, 2019 Share March 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Halting Hex said: I grant you that it's an outbuilding (down by the playing field, it seems) and it's abandoned, and it's a classroom, so "the old lab" might not be prominent in Buffy's mind…but still. You go to school pretty much every weekday, Buffy. You might want to know what's where, by now. Even if "this is a big school", as Xander claims in Out of Mind, Out of Sight. Take a day and learn your way around the place, Slayer. Sheesh. You don't pay attention to stuff like that most of the time when your head is full with mentally undressing Angel and slayage... Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 31, 2019 Share March 31, 2019 Well, Once More With Spuffy may be a piece of crap, but sometimes you find diamonds even in the pile of dung... Link to comment
Halting Hex March 31, 2019 Share March 31, 2019 Yeah, Rupert? Who played you like a fiddle at the end of S4, again? Oh, yeah, your Passions-watching buddy there, that's who. Seems as though Buffy's not the only one who "can't resist the sinister attraction" of a "bad boy", IMO. (Yes, I know Spike played them all. [And he was bloody brilliant at it, I say.] I just don't like Giles acting like Mr. Know-it-All, given that in this very episode he can't even get Buffy's Problem [she's disconnected, not codependent, you twit!] correct. Not to mention his upcoming decision to flee eight time zones to the east when Willow needs him…) Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 31, 2019 Share March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Halting Hex said: Yeah, Rupert? Who played you like a fiddle at the end of S4, again? That was long ago, so... At least Rupert has learnt not to give a shit about Spike's opinion. Link to comment
Halting Hex March 31, 2019 Share March 31, 2019 Finally in the correct thread (JFC, I can't believe I did that…): Written, I remind you, by the woman who said Spuffy is "a gorgeous story". Jane, seek help, please. I say this out of love. (Well, blinding hatred, actually. But still.) (Maybe "Magic" Jane teleported this post to the Graduation Day, Part 1 thread? Because I would certainly never make a mistake such as that…okay, okay, I goofed. Sorry.) 1 Link to comment
lembergwatcher March 31, 2019 Share March 31, 2019 What if Jane didn't think Spuffy was "gorgeous" as of 5.15? There is one gorgeous thing about that 'ship though. It's spared some decent characters the pain of being Buffy's or Spike's significant others. Link to comment
lembergwatcher April 2, 2019 Share April 2, 2019 (edited) Classic Edited April 2, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
Halting Hex April 2, 2019 Share April 2, 2019 And Buffy immediately chooses the redhead. Dreams of popularity and success at "coolness quizzes" aside. Happy sigh. And they start thinking in synch right after that As soulmates often do. (The occasional "He's one of the only teachers that doesn't think Buffy's a felon!" glitch aside.) More happy-sigh-age. Why is the Hell's Bells Xillow in black and white? Xander looks like a vampire. Or, possibly, Warren. (Either way, it's not a good look, IMO.) Link to comment
lembergwatcher April 2, 2019 Share April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Halting Hex said: Xander looks like a vampire. Or, possibly, Warren. Quote Xander: (Baffled) How? What? How? Giles: Three excellent questions. Link to comment
Halting Hex April 3, 2019 Share April 3, 2019 In the black & white, he looks dark and bulky and a bit creepy, IMO. I mean, I know it's Xander and I still love him…I'm just saying the lack of color brings up unpleasant images. But JMO, Link to comment
lembergwatcher April 3, 2019 Share April 3, 2019 (edited) Giles and Anya should have gotten married. The whole Xanya monstrosity was just a waste of audience's time. Edited April 3, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
Halting Hex April 3, 2019 Share April 3, 2019 Eh, I may be irritated at Giles now and then, but I don't wish anything so awful as Anya on him. Seeing Xander suffer thusly was more than enough. And if Xanya had actually been a thing, then Giles making a move on Xander's ex would be a whole other level of "Giles is an asshole to Xander, isn't that funny! Ha-ha-ha!". Which I got tired of after "I'm almost certain [you're not right], but to be fair, I wasn't listening", personally. And plenty of the "Ganya" 'shippers thought it would be a cool thing to "punish" Xander like that, for "mistreating" Anya. So screw that. JMO. Link to comment
lembergwatcher April 3, 2019 Share April 3, 2019 I'm not sure Xander would view G/A as "punishment" but rather as a favor. Link to comment
lembergwatcher April 4, 2019 Share April 4, 2019 You should try on more formal wear, Xand. Formal wear makes "your girl" go tingly. Link to comment
Halting Hex April 4, 2019 Share April 4, 2019 The "gay" thing I get (even if IMO it's bisexual)…but when did Willow "realise" she was English, exactly? 😕 Link to comment
Halting Hex April 6, 2019 Share April 6, 2019 And Cordelia is English, too? ("Favour") Cor' Blimey, Guv'nor! Pass the bangers and mash! I wonder what Buffy's "Mum" would say about all of this… Link to comment
illdoc April 6, 2019 Share April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Halting Hex said: And Cordelia is English, too? ("Favour") I think they've been hanging out with Giles/Wesley/Spike way too much!!! Link to comment
Halting Hex May 4, 2019 Share May 4, 2019 Eh, never really a favorite. The line seems clunky (what is a "qualified surgeon", exactly? Is Xander referring to board-certification here? And how would he know about that?) and I don't think Nick delivers it terribly well, either. I'm wondering if it was originally more like "remove the Union Jack from his ass" (because then you'd almost be doing a pun on "jackass") and the censors were all "you can't say 'ass' on the WB" and forced the change? Except that I've seen an earlier draft of the script (Faith's living in a trailer, rather than the motel room) and I don't remember that being in there, either. Hmm. Link to comment
lembergwatcher May 4, 2019 Share May 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Halting Hex said: I'm wondering if it was originally more like "remove the Union Jack from his ass" (because then you'd almost be doing a pun on "jackass") and the censors were all "you can't say 'ass' on the WB" and forced the change? Maybe they forced the change because "remove the Union Jack from his ass" sounded too "Anglophobic" or "anti-British" and they cared about the British audience's feelings? Link to comment
lembergwatcher May 4, 2019 Share May 4, 2019 Sorry, Will, but your hotness doesn't meet Buffy's standards... Stupid Angel, how could Buffy choose his cold dead body over Faith's curves?? Link to comment
Halting Hex May 4, 2019 Share May 4, 2019 (edited) Well, to be fair to Willow, she is dating two boys at once. Buffy just got tired of waiting for the "guy magnet" (thanks, CC!) to wake up and smell the Slayer, probably. A wife-beater, Faith? Really? It's not as if you haven't clued Buffy in about the whole "hungry and horny" after-Slaying activity; you could at least dress up a little for your (not-quite-)date. (And where's the Xillow-smooching-in-the-stacks sequence, screencappers? Get on with it! Sigh.) Edited May 4, 2019 by Halting Hex Link to comment
lembergwatcher June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 (edited) Old classics never get old... Edited June 26, 2019 by lembergwatcher Link to comment
lembergwatcher June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 Like the quote itself. Don't like the context and the circumstances in which it's said. Of course, the Whedonesque tradition of portraying Xander as a babbling moron in almost every post-Lovers Walk scene involving almighty Oz never gets old. It never gets to be non-clichéd, I'd say. Willow is in trouble, but the only thing Xander can think about at the moment is a stack of Playboys in his locker, yeah. 'Cause, God forbid someone overshadows The Most Caring Boyfriend of '99, you know. Xander is two steps from literally kissing Oz's hairy ass in Gingerbread and The Zeppo. He's shown as a narrow-minded sex-obsessed teen in Earshot while Oz OTOH is having some serious, almost existential philosophical thoughts. Oz is a witty silent type while Xander cannot express his thoughts in a way that makes people take him seriously. Xander doesn't tell G/W/B/A he'll kill them if Willow gets hurt due to their collective incompetence in Choices since only caring boyfriends are allowed to be men and lose their temper. Xander swallows his pride whenever someone insults him, be it Cordelia (The Zeppo), Buffy (Living Conditions), Willow (Something Blue), Giles (Shadow) or Oz's stupid pals from some obscured fraternity (Fear, Itself). And, yeah, Xander is the only one that dumb to think Oz is going "to stab" the left speaker. Because let the audience never forget Joss is the Genius and Willow made the right choice in Amends (the only decent choice actually). Even after Oz went bye-bye it's Xander of all people who has to say he's "so tired" of "Willow and her griefy-poor-me mood swings"... And, of course, when Oz the Great comes back in New Moon Rising Xander is the one to obediently shake his hairy hand and then report on Willow's post-breakup love life for some unknown reason. The White Knight is doomed to say idiotic shit while standing next to Oz in Willow's dream (Restless), because how can we forget, who's the cool one and who's not here?? Let Bangel, Willoz and Spuffy fans feel happy and secured in their knowledge no other male character will ever overshadow the male parts of their favorite 'ships. I wouldn't be that pissed-off with Xander's post-season three character development if at least half the things he said were actually funny, but they weren't. Did I say I hate Bangel fans and their obsession with The Lie™? Link to comment
Halting Hex June 26, 2019 Share June 26, 2019 (edited) Well, if it makes you feel better, "Magic" Jane makes Oz be the one to insult the MOO-b ("You guys know you're nuts, right?") and get him and Xander chased into the ventilation ducts; Xander's just being a good friend and protecting Wolf-Lad. 🙂 Edited June 26, 2019 by Halting Hex Link to comment
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