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Now that is how you do an exposition recap, people! (First episode after a two-month break, you'll recall.)  Marti Noxon, I salute you.

And as much as Cynthia Bergstrom gets it for her more…creative costuming choices (including Buffy's gold pants in this very scene, not visible above), she's really bringing it on Job #1 here, which is to let you know that Buffy and Willow will never wear anything even close to the same outfit.  (Maybe that's why Wiffy never happened?  The old "being a lesbian doubles your wardrobe" trope just wouldn't work for them?  Darn.)  Seriously, nice job of keeping your characters distinct.  Well done.

The only problem is that the screencapper blew the quote.  The third picture should read "now my boyfriend's gone forever and the demon that wears his face is killing my friends", of course. Sigh. Wish I could edit that.  Oh, well.

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22 hours ago, Halting Hex said:

and the demon that wears his face is killing my friends"

Btw, I can see no reason why Angelus couldn't kill/abduct Willow, Xander, Cordy, Giles, Oz or Joyce since he knew the gang quite well, Buffy wasn't able to protect each and every one of them 24/7 and none of the Slayerettes was that strong as a fighter. He could've sent his minions to hunt Buffy's friends down. Some of the Scoobs had to walk home alone late in the evening, you know. Angelus' henchmen could've grabbed any of them in the streets. Angelus has always been close to fulfilling his dreams of sending Buffy the bodies of her friends/torture porn videos involving W, X, G, C and J, shot inside his Crawford Street mansion. Yet he chose to hunt for random strangers   

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We're using our sarcastic voice for "favorite" today, is that it?

Just warning you, I've got a plateload of "He can be a good man" screencaps from First Date, if you're looking to go down that road.  (Hell, yeah, I can play dirty.  Fair, but still.)

On 10/13/2018 at 8:10 PM, Halting Hex said:

The only problem is that the screencapper blew the quote.  The third picture should read "now my boyfriend's gone forever and the demon that wears his face is killing my friends", of course.

And the fourth should be "My next impulsive decision will involve my choice of dentures", for that matter.  Sheesh.  Get it together, people!

And the second should be "Do you remember my ex-boyfriend, etc.", now that I look at.  Wow, how drunk were they when they 'capped this one?  Apologies, all.

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8 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

Btw, I can see no reason why Angelus couldn't kill/abduct Willow, Xander, Cordy, Giles, Oz or Joyce since he knew the gang quite well, Buffy wasn't able to protect each and every one of them 24/7 and none of the Slayerettes was that strong as a fighter. He could've sent his minions to hunt Buffy's friends down. Some of the Scoobs had to walk home alone late in the evening, you know. Angelus' henchmen could've grabbed any of them in the streets. Angelus has always been close to fulfilling his dreams of sending Buffy the bodies of her friends/torture porn videos involving W, X, G, C and J, shot inside his Crawford Street mansion. Yet he chose to hunt for random strangers   

I always presumed the Scoobs travelled in a pack and were loaded for bear, hence Angelus doesn't risk direct confrontation. 

6 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

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And obviously she does! It is rather gratifying to watch good girl Buffy just let go and explore her wild side, I'm sure Faith approved. 

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12 hours ago, Halting Hex said:

We're using our sarcastic voice for "favorite" today, is that it?

I'm totally sarcastic here. 'Cause bringing up the subject of trust while waving handcuffs speaks volumes about bleached boy.

 

7 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

I always presumed the Scoobs travelled in a pack

Quite possible. Though Xander could escort Cordelia and Willow home (since Oz was on tour for most of the Angelus crisis), he had to go to his place alone nevertheless. 

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I do somewhat side-eye Xander having "antithetical" in his vocabulary arsenal (sorry, Xan), but maybe Willow taught him, as with "askew means cockeyed".  Poor Will, if this is her work here, given that this news ends up leaving her sobbing in the bathroom in Consequences.

(Never did notice the necklace on Nicky here, before.)

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7 hours ago, Halting Hex said:

Oh, Willow!  You little fink.  So adorable.

Oh. I totally forgot about that moment. Probably because I dislike The Zeppo and didn't rewatch it too often...
And I think both Buffy and Willow could spend three or more hours at McDonalds and still have the same weight.

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People claim that Xander doesn't know how to relate to girls, but clearly they exaggerate.

In fact, we see in the next episode that he's taught Giles his secrets, with the G-Man being able to distract Cordelia by staring at her hair.  Mean, perhaps.  But consistent.

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That was the moment my love & respect for Buffy started to fade away. Don't worry, Buff, no one's gonna hurt your baby seal-faced boyfriend (well, maybe except for Faith). He will outlive many people - including all of his human friends from Angel Investigations.

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Apparently Principal Flutie started setting the "no touching" rule long before a certain girl adopted it and tried to impose it on her best friend.

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Willow: Am I ever gonna live that stupid rule down?

Me: No.

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Oh, hush, Oz!  You know darn well that if the hippos really did get out of the zoo and started doing ballet, we'd get at least a "Huh" out of you.  And Buffy would have to figure out how to fight them and all that.  You're on a Hellmouth; show some imagination.  Sigh.

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Geez, Slayer…now is when you start with the naughty flirty talk? When Willow's already got someone else?  Talk about bad timing.

Of course, given that the briefly-adorable Flirty!Buffy in this scene promptly turns right back into S7 Bitchy!Buffy, stupidly punching what she thinks is "First!Warren" (yeah, the First is incorporeal; look it up…) and never bothering to apologize to her best friend for that mistake, it makes better sense for Willow to stick to the new chick, anyhow.  You don't need a "fairy-tale kiss" to know that, after all.

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1 hour ago, lembergwatcher said:

... but I'll fuck with you anyway...

Well, we know from Killed by Death that her immune system recovers quickly.  Spike can't give her any STDs she can't shake off.

Oh, or are we talking morally clean here?  That's a little more difficult to cope with than bacteria, I admit.

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On ‎04‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 12:06 AM, lembergwatcher said:

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Very suggestive between Buffy and Dawn?

11 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

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... but I'll fuck with you anyway...

 

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We've all been there!

I tried to list 'The Pushy Queen of Slut Town' as one of Dawn's aliases on Buffywiki but they wouldn't let me. 

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5 hours ago, lembergwatcher said:

Still can't figure out how did Cordy learn the topic of conversation between Giles and police detective...

Yeah, Det. Winslow says "homicide" but that's before CC enters.  Unless she was fixing her makeup or something and heard the word, but didn't really pay attention.

 

8 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

CC's hair seems much lighter in that ep, plus what's with Angel's jacket, is his leather being cleaned?

Charisma had the blonde highlights all through the start of the season (they're last seen in Inca Mummy Girl), until thankfully the hair team abandoned that idea.  I think Angel's Members' Only jacket might have been a network suggestion, although, as I understand it, not as firm as the days where ABC put a flat-out ban on having Fonzie in his famous leather on Happy Days, on the grounds that the leather made Da Fonz look "like a hoodlum".  (One of the very few Happy Days reruns I've ever watched was one of those "Fonzie-in-poplin" episodes.)

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Re: Angel's clothes. For almost all of his Season 1 appearances, he wears a T-Shirt & a velveteen (like velvet, but thinner material) jacket. Except in one episode, where he wears a leather jacket for about 30 seconds, sees Buffy, says "You look cold" and gives her the jacket (which she never returns). In the finale that season, he manages to get an actual shirt. He manages to have more of a wardrobe after that--including the tan jacket. Was that photo (above) from "Some Assembly Required"? That's the episode I remember him wearing that jacket. 

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49 minutes ago, lembergwatcher said:

Actually you're 244, Deadboy. 1997-1753=244. It's kinda weird you don't know your own age.

Eh, he said he was 240 in Angel and 243 in Earshot; the Becoming Part 1 title card seems to be the screw-up here.  And that's only a title card, after all.

(Also, why should Angel date his age from his siring, exactly?)

So, in April of '97, Angel was 240, but by October, he'd turned 241.  And by May of '99 (let's assume that's when Earshot takes place), he'd had two more birthdays.  That fits.  So, Angel was born in late April or early May of 1756.  (I kind of want to give him David's own May 16th birthdate, but that might be pushing Earshot back a bit too far.)

lf you really want to nit-pick, you can note that Angel aired on April 14, 1997 and Earshot was originally scheduled for April 20, 1999 (pre-Columbine) and drop Angel's birthday in between the two, somewhere that week.  And all of this also aligns with Buffy and Willow reading in the Watcher Diary in Halloween that Angel was 18 "in 1775"; obviously that's an entry from the early part of that year, which makes sense as B/W had only just started to read the diaries.  

So I stick to more consistent date used here.

(Yes, Liam's gravestone in The Prodigal and various title cards on Angel's series try to build continuity based on the 1753 siring, but screw that.  The Land of the Happy Slurpee-Sucking Harmless Demons can go do its own thing; this series need not depend on that one for its continuity, IMO.)

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13 hours ago, Halting Hex said:

Yeah, Det. Winslow says "homicide" but that's before CC enters.  Unless she was fixing her makeup or something and heard the word, but didn't really pay attention.

 

Charisma had the blonde highlights all through the start of the season (they're last seen in Inca Mummy Girl), until thankfully the hair team abandoned that idea.  I think Angel's Members' Only jacket might have been a network suggestion, although, as I understand it, not as firm as the days where ABC put a flat-out ban on having Fonzie in his famous leather on Happy Days, on the grounds that the leather made Da Fonz look "like a hoodlum".  (One of the very few Happy Days reruns I've ever watched was one of those "Fonzie-in-poplin" episodes.)

The times CC and Angel get together he's always wearing atypical clothing (WITW). 

Let's see, Happy Days to Buffy? Henry Winkler is in Scream with Neve Campbell who is Scream 2 with SMG so in 3. 

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3 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

Let's see, Happy Days to Buffy? Henry Winkler is in Scream with Neve Campbell who is Scream 2 with SMG so in 3. 

Or Winkler is in Scream with Matthew Lillard who's in She's All That with SMG (and FPJ).  Or Fonzie to Stu to Lilliard being in Summer Catch with Marc Blucas (and, again, FPJ).

Or Winkler is in Scream with Rose McGowan who's in Charmed with CC.  Useful movie, that.

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Never noticed before that Xander's fake ID is an Ohio Driver's License.  (The "zip code" is in Columbus.)  I knew it wasn't California, because CA licenses have the picture on the left.

And I think Cynthia Bergstrom blew her "make Buffy look fashionable and Willow and Xander look like clowns" mission statement in this scene; I quite like Xander's "sky-with-clouds" shirt, and while Willow's outfit is a little busy, I still prefer it to the basic orange halter they have Buffy in.  But JMO.

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21 hours ago, Halting Hex said:

Or Winkler is in Scream with Matthew Lillard who's in She's All That with SMG (and FPJ).  Or Fonzie to Stu to Lilliard being in Summer Catch with Marc Blucas (and, again, FPJ).

Or Winkler is in Scream with Rose McGowan who's in Charmed with CC.  Useful movie, that.

I can beat that, Henry was in L&O;SVU with Clea Duvall so in 2

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(Yeah, but that's by your rules.  Also, it's "DuVall"…Robert Duvall [not related to Clea] uses the small "v", but Clea has the double capital.)

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Gee, I can't guess why the government didn't want to fork over the PSA money for that. :)  Such a fun episode.

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