Grneyedldy July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 As you said, "she is a mini Vicki"! LOL That is why I think Briana moving out of state was/is the best for her and her family to do. She does need to allow her mother to date whoever she wants and make her own mistakes but I get her concern about Brooks. Betray, the tabloids/beating recommendation, my child like he did Briana and he would have gotten the door slammed in his face but then, I tend to put my child(ren) before myself, unlike Vicki. As for the recorded rant, Ryan did not put those words into Brooks mouth, he did not set him up, Brooks called him already drunk and IMO, he, Brooks, said what he really thought/felt. Why cut Brooks slack when he said to beat Briana because HE was drunk but then hold Ryan accountable for his words to Judy when he was also drunk? IMO, you can't have it both ways. Both Ryan and Brooks were drunk and IMO, both were wrong but only 1 of them got help and that 1 is Ryan, not Brooks. There's a lot you can fault Brooks for, but he didn't want Ryan to beat Brianna. You could tell even as drunk as he was that he wasn't serious. That was just the best Ryan could get out of him during what I'm sure was Ryan and Brianna's big "gotcha" plan. And Brook's sincerely apologized for that bullshit. To this day, I always shake my head when others think Vicki deserves far better than Brooks. I think anyone that can stand to constantly feed the big pile of need that is Vicki, deserves a medal. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362635
WireWrap July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 There's a lot you can fault Brooks for, but he didn't want Ryan to beat Brianna. You could tell even as drunk as he was that he wasn't serious. That was just the best Ryan could get out of him during what I'm sure was Ryan and Brianna's big "gotcha" plan. And Brook's sincerely apologized for that bullshit. To this day, I always shake my head when others think Vicki deserves far better than Brooks. I think anyone that can stand to constantly feed the big pile of need that is Vicki, deserves a medal. I do think that was Brooks mind set, drunk or not and IMO, he was sorry he got caught, not about what he said. As for Vicki deserving better than Brooks? NOPE! IMO, they deserve each other! LOL 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362772
JennyMominFL July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Oh, and I believe he suffers from PTSD, I do not think it is an excuse. What we saw on the show, Lydia's mom, happened after 4 tours of duty in an active combat area. I believe it too. I've known a lot of Marines that came back like Ryan. I know what PTSD looks like. Unfortunately, depsite it being not his fault, his behavior may cause him a lot of problems. To the person on the recieving end, the cause means very little 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362842
Grneyedldy July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 I do think that was Brooks mind set, drunk or not and IMO, he was sorry he got caught, not about what he said. As for Vicki deserving better than Brooks? NOPE! IMO, they deserve each other! LOL Did you hear the tape or just read the transcript? Brooks wasn't being serious about beating Brianna. It was facetious at best. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362881
WireWrap July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 I believe it too. I've known a lot of Marines that came back like Ryan. I know what PTSD looks like. Unfortunately, depsite it being not his fault, his behavior may cause him a lot of problems. To the person on the recieving end, the cause means very little Oh, I agree that his behavior caused him big problems both on and off camera! I do disagree that understanding what caused his outburst would not soften Judy's hurt/upset with him. I can see her, and Lydia, forgiving him especially since he sought help. Did you hear the tape or just read the transcript? Brooks wasn't being serious about beating Brianna. It was facetious at best. I listened to it, his tone of voice was not joking or "facetious" at all. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362887
Grneyedldy July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 I listened to it, his tone of voice was not joking or "facetious" at all. Ok fair enough. This is where we agree to disagree and move on. :-) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362984
JennyMominFL July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Oh, I agree that his behavior caused him big problems both on and off camera! I do disagree that understanding what caused his outburst would not soften Judy's hurt/upset with him. I can see her, and Lydia, forgiving him especially since he sought help. Oh yes, Of course. I was thinking more along the lines of those who have to deal with him daily, Briana and their boys. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1362987
FozzyBear July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 How many times did we see Briana do what Vicki wanted instead of what she wanted. Joining the military, working overseas as a nurse, the school/college she wanted, she always gave way to Vicki's demands and never did what she wanted. Yes, both Briana and Michael were spoiled brats but that is what Vicki taught them and there was always a rather steep price for it with their mother dictating their every move, which eventually they both stepped away from. As for her marriage to Ryan being "ill advised", IMO, the jury is still out on that and I can understand why she didn't want a standard wedding because it would have been all about Vicki and Vicki's needs/wants, not Briana's/Ryan's. Not too many viewers supported Vicki and Brooks as a couple, yet got upset that Briana spoke out against him even though she saw first hand what was going on, the games he, Brooks, played. I, myself, question why and how Vicki can rationalize being with a man that suggested to her son in-law to beat his wife (her daughter). IMO, that is sick and I could never be with a man that told someone to hurt my child, EVER! According to Vicki, it was her idea for Briana and Ryan to move in with her because Ryan was about to be deployed for the 5th time to Afghanistan, an active combat zone, not theirs. Yes, they agreed but so did Vicki and she also agreed to their conditions about no Brooks and I don't blame them. It was Brooks that sold the story about Briana being pregnant to the tabloids, so he had already betrayed them and I wouldn't want him around either. So, Brooks sells private info about Briana, then Brooks tells Ryan he needs to beat Briana and people wonder why Briana/Ryan have issues with Brooks? LOL Oh, and I believe he suffers from PTSD, I do not think it is an excuse. What we saw on the show, Lydia's mom, happened after 4 tours of duty in an active combat area. Moving this discussion over to the Vivki thread. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1363022
WireWrap July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Oh yes, Of course. I was thinking more along the lines of those who have to deal with him daily, Briana and their boys. I also think the same for Briana. I am hoping that they are still together means he is doing/behaving in a better, more socially acceptable manner. I really pray that Briana does not follow her mothers choices in men. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1363105
zoeysmom July 27, 2015 Author Share July 27, 2015 Do you have a more recent pic of Ryan in uniform. I'm a Marine, I know the insignia. He's a Staff Sgt in his wedding pic. It's not likely he made if from SSgt, through Gunny all the way to Master Sgt in 3 years. Most Tops that I served with were in their 40's Thanks for the help so he is an E-6? Sounds like he makes closer to $5,000.00 a month, I know he no longer gets tax free pay and they still have a nice pick up and a Mercedes and a fairly decent house so I am thinking Briana needs to work. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1363488
JennyMominFL July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 Thanks for the help so he is an E-6? Sounds like he makes closer to $5,000.00 a month, I know he no longer gets tax free pay and they still have a nice pick up and a Mercedes and a fairly decent house so I am thinking Briana needs to work. Smeone elses posted that he was still an E6 last Fall, So he probably makes in the mid 5000's 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/29218-s10e07-bowling-in-heels/page/8/#findComment-1363631
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