Kromm January 7, 2015 Share January 7, 2015 Vivica used to be "A Fox". But the years have caught up to her, and her self-styled punnish name (which is real, to be clear, but it's no accident she used her middle initial like that) is seeming more and more like irony than reality. I've heard she's got a big ego, and I'm supposing that may or may not come out more when the deadwood is cleared away and the show can focus more on her than other well known big egos. Link to comment
vildachaia January 7, 2015 Share January 7, 2015 I don't care for her so far, but I seem to recall she used her middle name because, like so many others have before her, there was another Vivica Fox in SAG/AFTRA whichever one and she had to throw the middle name in. 1 Link to comment
Bronzedog January 7, 2015 Share January 7, 2015 She's beginning to look a little rough to me. Link to comment
Snickerdoodle February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 She is just awful. Does she get along with ANY of the other women? She throws them all under the bus. Link to comment
cooksdelight February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 If she is indeed menopausal, it will cause you to forget shit all over the place. Been there. And what's worse.... that, or her saying "She's having her damn period, OK?" in the boardroom? 1 Link to comment
dirtydi February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 I like her. Although I think the phone thing was staged by the show, Vivica sold it better than Kenya. 1 Link to comment
imjagain February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 (edited) If she is indeed menopausal, it will cause you to forget shit all over the place. Been there. And what's worse.... that, or her saying "She's having her damn period, OK?" in the boardroom? What's worse is taking someone's phone and sending out a message that has no other purpose but to try and embarrass someone. That girl Shawn(?) mentioned her period and that she would not be much help in the task because she felt horrible. Viv never offered her phone for Kenya to use and she never brought up she was having menopause issues. Kenya is a snake! Edited February 3, 2015 by imjagain 3 Link to comment
Kromm February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 I like her. Although I think the phone thing was staged by the show, Vivica sold it better than Kenya.Yeah, it had to be. I mean theft is big enough, but to be paired with fraud and identity theft as well? There's no WAY this is real. Something would have been done to investigate in the past year, wouldn't it have been? How would that have stayed out of the news. Link to comment
cooksdelight February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 I'm still not convinced Kenya stole her phone. This entire episode reeked of producer manipulation. From firing an entire team who had won five straight challenges, to moving Leeza over so that she's be with Geraldo. I've lost faith that anything about this show is real. Kenya is a snake, agreed, but I've also seen her be in a position where she could have really done harm....and didn't. She may be a lot of things, but she's not stupid enough to do something that might be considered illegal (stealing). Link to comment
Kromm February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 (edited) I'm still not convinced Kenya stole her phone. This entire episode reeked of producer manipulation. From firing an entire team who had won five straight challenges, to moving Leeza over so that she's be with Geraldo. I've lost faith that anything about this show is real. Kenya is a snake, agreed, but I've also seen her be in a position where she could have really done harm....and didn't. She may be a lot of things, but she's not stupid enough to do something that might be considered illegal (stealing). You're suggesting instead though a situation that would have to have had a lot of moving parts, rather than a simple explanation. Assuming for the moment that the tweet really went out (because even if it was later deleted you can never really undo a tweet), it can be verified, then just to defend Kenya's honor a lot of things have to be resolved (and in discussing the battles with Brandi, for example, I've seen people bend over backwards on Kenya's behalf). We'd need a scenario where either... 1.) Vivica and Kenya both agreed to this stunt--and remember this would have had to have been in the vicinity of people like Leeza and Johnny--so they'd be lying to the other team as well. Kenya would have had to go into this knowing not only that it would mean her exit from the show, but also inevitable public doubt and accusations. 2.) Vivica did this herself--either with production's help or not. And while we've seen PLENTY of evidence that Vivica is no angel (what she did to Shawn was pretty telling), its a far leap from that to framing someone for a crime--which is a crime in of itself, actually. 3.) Some unbelievable third scenario, where some third party just HAPPENED to steal Vivica's phone, just HAPPENED to tweet that particular tweet (meaning they even bothered to look up how old Vivica was), and then Kenya just HAPPENED to see that tweet, and just happened to comment on it at the right/wrong time. All three of those scenarios seem pretty outlandish, in various ways. I suppose #1 is the least outlandish, but I just don't see how these two, and the show, would think it would never come out if they faked this, that people would never wonder why it never got investigated, and if show NDAs really cover journalists like Leeza and Geraldo having to keep mum on such an overt slimy piece of fakery. Edited February 3, 2015 by Kromm 3 Link to comment
Cherrio February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 Its all fake. Some of the worst acting too when the phone was initially lost and in the boardroom too. All these shows are fake, entertaining in a strange and warped way, but fake. At some point there will be a new genre of show, which showss the reality of fake reality shows and ALL the shows will be exposed. 1 Link to comment
cooksdelight February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 Call the show "The Fourth Wall Comes Down" and let Viveca and Kenya narrate. :) Link to comment
ParadoxLost February 3, 2015 Share February 3, 2015 I'm still not convinced Kenya stole her phone. This entire episode reeked of producer manipulation. From firing an entire team who had won five straight challenges, to moving Leeza over so that she's be with Geraldo. I've lost faith that anything about this show is real. Kenya is a snake, agreed, but I've also seen her be in a position where she could have really done harm....and didn't. She may be a lot of things, but she's not stupid enough to do something that might be considered illegal (stealing). I agree there was a stink of producer manipulation but I'm still of the theory that Kenya impulsively tweeted something. Maybe Vivica talked to someone and Kenya got the phone before it locked itself and Vivica is always logged into twitter, etc. I think where the producer manipulation came in is that there is no footage of any of this going down. Likely the tweet was seen by someone before the boardroom, especially if they are all following each other and are allowed to call friends or publicists and other people that monitor this stuff. I'm sure that Kenya, Geraldo, and Vivica and the Trumps (and the other team) were all re-enacting and exaggerating events that already occurred. 2 Link to comment
Mreid February 16, 2015 Share February 16, 2015 I really don't think this phone thing was staged at all I have been watching a lot of interviews and videos on you tubes about this and Vivica was really upset about this she just seemed too sincere and upset about this for it to be staged. I think Kenya really stole the phone and sent out that tweet because Kenya is a toxic trick just like Vivica said. 2 Link to comment
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