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[Samantha84]

Honestly? ABC should snatch that 10 o'clock timeslot from Castle. It's not using it appropriately and other shows could benefit. Castle is a 8 o'clock show at this point. 

[TWP]

Honestly? ABC should snatch that 10 o'clock timeslot from Castle. It's not using it appropriately and other shows could benefit. Castle is a 8 o'clock show at this point.

I suspect the 10:00pm timeslot is as much a "where else are we going to put them" issue as anything....oh and also to capture the Dancing With the Stars crowd...who I suspect are greatly the ones who wish Castle and Beckett had twin beds. Yes, I am ageist against my own age group ;-).

[S55]

I was on Amazon the other day. Wonder of wonders one of the suggested DVDs was Season 6 Castle (shaking fist at Amazon spyware and it's ability to trap my Google searches).

Anyway, I clicked in and saw that there were already a few reviews so I read them. Amazingly one reviewer felt Castle was too racy because Alexis and Pi lived together. I am slightly of the mind that Marlowe really does keep Castle "clean" for certain viewers and that's why bed scenes are so tame.

[Edit: Not trying to minimize people's concerns about the lack of couple-ey moments. I agree, even the tame moments are lacking]

I've never read the Derek Storm novels (because we know they end with Derek killed, right?) However, I really like the plot line, and think it would make great TV as long as they don't kill Derek off after a season! I suspect I won't watch because of my extraordinary faith in Marlowe's ability to hook you in and then ruin a show. But I wouldn't be surprised if the show was a hit...at least for awhile.

 

I'm already wondering if Marlowe & Co. will do what Bones did and try to do a backdoor pilot on an episode of Castle (like Bones did with The Finder). Might be hard to have Derrick meet Castle & Beckett, heh (though he ~does meet Nikki Heat & Jameson Rook at the precinct in one of the DS books, lol), but I could see ABC trying to launch it that way to hook in an already-established audience from Castle. Though, that didn't work out too well in the long run for TF, so maybe not. ;) 

[Samantha84]

As with Castle .. casting for this new show will be key! Find great leads. Nathan and Stana saved Castle for many, including myself. Honestly these two actors have saved the characters and the show, otherwise I would have gave it up quite some time ago. 

[KaveDweller]

And didn't RC kill off the character because he was rubbish? I mean, you go into the pilot knowing the character is dead.

 

He brought him back to life though, so that ABC could milk more money out of the franchise.

 

It looks like Marlowe isn't actually writing the pilot, it is some guy who worked on Missing (with Ashley Judd a couple years back).  I warched every episode, but can't remember much about that show, just that it was short-lived and that their "shocking twist" in the middle of the season was obvious from the first minute of the show.  Probably  a bad sign.

 

I guess you have to know the characters to get the love, intimacy, yearning vibe from that clip. I didn't feel it, didn't forget they were actors playing a part.

It just goes to show you how this stuff is subjective.  Because while I do see chemistry between Olivia and Fitz, everytime they have a scene together I want to scream at Oliva to run far away and find some guy who's actually worthy of her.  I think Fitz is a horrible person.  And most people on Scandal are horrible people, but Olivia is still so much better than him.  I don't even remember that couch scene.  I think it's a great show, I just hate Olitz (or whatever their shipper name is). 

 

Amazingly one reviewer felt Castle was too racy because Alexis and Pi lived together.

 

Are Amish people leaving Amazon reviews now? Alexis and Pi touched each other even less than Caskett.  But like I said, lots of subjectivity.

 

Might be hard to have Derrick meet Castle & Beckett, heh

 

They could have Castle talk about how his books are going to become a TV series.  They could even go to LA and meet the actor playing Derrick (playing "himself" in this episode).  Then use that as an intro for the actual pilot.  Or have Castle and Beckett decide to watch the new series as an opening scene, then fade into the actual show that they're supposedly watching.

[break21]

Derrick Storm books are ok - not great/not terrible.  They will have to hit the jackpot in casting the lead for the show to be successful.  Milmar found gold in Fillion and Fillions don't come around every day.

[Elysium1973]

Thanks for the clip, Elysium1973. Yes, it is a great scene. But Nathan looks absolutely boyish. How old was he, anyway? I actually prefer him a little heavier and a little scruffier, ala Season 1 Castle. In this clip, his features look too big for his face. And where are his lips? They certainly don't look that thin anymore.

 

I agree. I have zero interest in the Derrick Storm books. Even when Castle talks about the DS books on the show, I only like those scenes because he mentions going into some crazy New York City underworld or dealing with dangerous people for his research.

That was my first time watching OLTL too. My sister watched it and found that clip. It was just too good not to share it with you guys. I think it was shot in the early 90's, so he was in his early to mid 20's. I also thought he looked really young and also prefer his season 1/2/Serenity/Firefly appearance too. Upon further reflection I wonder if that's because I'm 41 and generally find men my own age attractive. When I look at young guys I just get exhausted. Still, you know Fillion's got the chops to bring the heat and romance if he's allowed. Who or what is holding him back?

[TWP]

My inability to "feel" the Olitz chemistry may be because I've never seen Scandal. I swore off Shonda a long time ago. I think a great part of what we call "chemistry" comes from buying into the characters. It may be part of why I don't feel the Caskett chemistry anymore. Marlowe has made me fall out of viewer infatuation with them, I guess :). The magic is gone. And to make this post a little about Castle in the media, I saw one story where the author described Caskett as wooden. At the time I read it I thought "how can you even think that? " But now I step back and can see it, even in my Castle 1.0 (Seasons 1 to 3). The phenomenon sort of reminds me of watching American Idol. AI is designed to make the audience become emotionally attached to the characters so you think they are better than they really are. I sometimes listen to my favorite AI winners and wonder why I ever liked them

[Elysium1973]

I agree that Caskett is wooden and it doesn't have to be that way. The actors have what it takes, the writers have what what it takes, hell, even Bowman has what it takes. I don't know what happened to this show, but it's nothing short of absurd.

[femmefan1946]

OLTL again. This was supposed to be romantic, but given the huge age difference - apparently 30 years or so- it would be pretty icky if Nathan's physical comedy didn't make it charming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2odclzcnu8w&list=PLh5UVypcOwbEXLC3wUzb4OsRJodgxgVC4&index=4

 

BTW, since this was a daytime soap, it would be watched by the women who were at home, not the majority who were working outside the home. And those women are 25 years older now.

 

Complaining about Alexis and Pi? When Beckett and Castle are also living together and Martha had made it clear that her relationship with Chet was sexual? (And props for that one. It's very recent that over 50's have been allowed sex lives on TV.)

There is a lovely and useful term "outlier" for the left field opinion or event that no one else agrees with.

[verdana]

As with Castle .. casting for this new show will be key! Find great leads. Nathan and Stana saved Castle for many, including myself. Honestly these two actors have saved the characters and the show, otherwise I would have gave it up quite some time ago. 

That's what keeps me hanging on too, it's certainly not the quality of the writing or the well drawn secondary characters, the only good reason to watch that show is for Castle and Beckett and before someone says "hey not everyone watches for Caskett!" then I feel bloody sorry for them because I couldn't imagine watching the show for the cases in the main. 

 

Obviously I could be wrong but I don't think Marlowe will hit pay dirt again casting wise and in any case I'd rather he didn't inflict any more of his hack writing on any one else, as for his wife it looks like she can only get a job if she's attached to her husband's projects. I note when she left for a season or so she was hardly busy, seems like they'll always come as a package. 

[turnitwayup]

Lol the music in the 2nd part of that Joey/Dorian vid. Every single daytime soap seems to be cheesy and hilarious. I was in hs during that time so I didn't notice Nathan until he joined Two Guys and a Girl. Even seeing Blast from the Past and Saving Private Ryan many times I still didn't recognized him until years later. The only soap I ever watched in hs was General Hospital, but I got sucked into watching the 1st few yrs of Passions during undergrad. Gotta agree that Nathan looked the best all throughout his 30s.
 

They could have Castle talk about how his books are going to become a TV series.  They could even go to LA and meet the actor playing Derrick (playing "himself" in this episode).  Then use that as an intro for the actual pilot.

 
That would kinda be hilarious is someone drops dead on the set as Caskett was visiting. Maybe they can bring back D.B. Sweeney's character to work the case with him. They could be the new Jessica Fletcher with someone end up dead everywhere they go. It sounds like they're running out of ideas so might as well copy from other shows.
 
I don't know what is more distracting. His lulzy id photo or his rough looking thumbnail. He really does personify S1/2 Castle in that pic.

[verdana]

Terri Edda Miller @TerriEdda  ·  2h

This episode of #Castle @RobHanning is making right now… was watching them shoot today. OMG, my face hurts from smiling.

 

Oh dear, is this a continuation of them laughing at Castle by any chance? Anything Terri and her husband find amusing falls flat with me and is usually anything but. Has Beckett bumped into Rogan again perhaps? That was supposedly funny too.  Unless she's smiling dreamily because they've just filmed a super romantic Caskett moment....nah. 

 

Seems things are certainly back to normal on the show, I bet if some newbie tuned in to watch that episode they'd never know Castle had been kidnapped from his wedding not that long ago causing great trauma to his family and wife to be, such is the beauty of Marlowe's particular brand of storytelling.

 

Kind of odd that Bowman is directing this one which appears to be a more standard fun and fluff episode, I thought he usually hung around to show off his directing chops on the key big, dramatic episodes.  

Edited August 22, 2014 by verdana

[verdana]

Complaining about Alexis and Pi? When Beckett and Castle are also living together and Martha had made it clear that her relationship with Chet was sexual? (And props for that one. It's very recent that over 50's have been allowed sex lives on TV.)

I wish TPTB would give Martha an actual life again, she doesn't look like the type that stays single for long. I thought she would make a go of it with that bank manager in Cops & Robbers but alas no. 

Edited August 22, 2014 by verdana

[verdana]

I heart social media at the Hollywood Journal by Dara Resnik Creasey, where she talks about the generosity of the Castle fans as well as the money raised recently for a charitable cause - Camp del Corazón - by the writers. 

 

You love it at the moment Dara but she obviously hasn't had the Castle crazies tweeting her abuse yet. You won't like us all quite so much then. 

 

Terri Edda Miller @TerriEdda  ·  12h
RT @ktripler: So happy for @AndrewWMarlowe and @TerriEdda !! http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/abc-developing-derrick-storm-series-based-on-richard-castle-novels-1201287254/ … #DerrickStorm We're excited too Keith! Yay!

Obviously thrilled with their new project and the announcement but I wonder if they still get excited about working on Castle? Feels like they're stuck in a rut to me. 

Edited August 22, 2014 by verdana

[turnitwayup]

I wish TPTB would give Martha an actual life again

 

Me too. Even her studio barely gets a mention now days. At least she got to use her students in the birthday surprise and was put to use for the 70s precinct makeover. The last time she had a love interest was Chet and that was seasons ago. Another thing, it's kinda sad that Jim Beckett has only 1 more ep appearance than Pi and Jenny Ryan has 1 less ep appearance than Pi and those 2 characters have been there since s2. Even Beckett's exs/bfs only had 1-4 ep appearances, Castle's exs 1-3 appearances and Ashley had 3. KInda redic that the only ongoing storyline for Alexis was another boyfriend and that stupid issue of Castle not telling Alexis about the engagement. Didn't these writers go to college? Couldn't they find a way to write an academic storyline subplot over several eps for her beside the random saving the guy on death row ep. The entire cast has has great chemistry with each other yet supporting characters are way underdeveloped.

 

Heh, cartoon Nathan gets a six-pack.

[verdana]

 

Another thing, it's kinda sad that Jim Beckett has only 1 more ep appearance than Pi and Jenny Ryan has 1 less ep appearance than Pi and those 2 characters have been there since s2.

Marlowe said Pi was the kind of character an audience loved to hate, I just hated him. I thought his presence was pointless and not even funny unless you count a guy with a porntache saying "hey Mr/Mrs C!" at inconvenient times amusing.  

 

As for Alexis I don't know why they can't find a decent story that can tie in with her being at college. Is there nothing else in her life aside from boys that can be meaningful and also involve Castle and Beckett?  It really does make you wonder what's going on in that writers room if they can't think of one decent storyline for Molly, I hope and pray they don't give her further boy trouble next season, I suspect fans have had enough of that after the Pi debacle.  

[Samantha84]

Even Molly said that there should be no more Alexis boyfriend storylines. Many would agree w. her. Marlowe & Co. don't execute them well. Alexis comes off bad everytime and also becomes an asshole & spoiled brat w. and to her father. 

[madmaverick]

Went to amazon to take a look and the description of the Castle S6 DVD set starts with, "After Castle's stunning romantic proposal to Beckett....".  LOL, stop right there, something wrong with the product description. ;)  Not buying.  

 

I sometimes feel Castle is a period piece, but I think they're even seeing more action on Downton Abbey these days, ;)

 

Yeah, what was with that opera music in the background on OLTL?  Made me take the scene even less seriously.

 

I liked Nathan's work as a romantic interest more in his roles in his indie films Waitress (with Keri Russell) and Trucker (with Michelle Monaghan).  Some hot kissing in the car in the latter, but nothing that I think wouldn't be allowed on network TV at 10 p.m. in this day and age.

 

Typically goofy ID pic from Nathan.  I think that was from some photoshoot.  And yeah, if I don't have a six pack in real life, having one in a cartoon is the next best thing! :P  He did refer to them as his airbrushed abs heh.

 

Dr. Horrible's challenged Capt. Hammer to do the ALS ice bucket challenge again!  Let's see if we get another look at some white pants heh.

 

Honestly, I don't find social media as used by the Castle writers to be all that interesting or insightful about the show at all.  It's mostly them retweeting praise of their own work.

[madmaverick]

Verdana, I think you may get your wish of a college storyline involving Alexis since they've filmed at a school for 704 and MQ had a late call time at night.

 

They look to be giving Alexis some attention in the early part of the season again.  Let's hope they do better this time around.

 

Guess poor Martha and the rest will just have to wait.  Like I said before, if anyone had an old husband coming back, it should have been Martha with the ex who conned her of her life savings.  That could have been interesting for her character and they could have easily written in a related COTW.

[Elysium1973]

Watching Fillion and that lady who was probably in her 50's was kind of squeeky. But the irony is that he's showing more love, passion, and romance for that old broad than he does for Beckett/Katic. I'm scratching my head as to why. The first thing that comes to mind is hypogoandism. He's the right age and body type. Maybe he was more intense as a young actor, has more to prove, and wanted to give it his all. Maybe he liked that actress more or felt more comfortable with her. He's very likely burnt out on this show, and who could blame him? No one. I thought he was very, very pretty back then and I could probably see myself getting a crush on a guy that looked like him and could act. That's rare on those ridiculous soaps. I actually thought he did a really good job in that Mrs. Robinson scene.

[Karen]

Season 6 of Castle is about to start in France, and so they've posted an interview with Nathan that was made somewhere in the middle of shooting season 6, it seems. I thought it's funny and somewhat sad that the "whole team" is apparently working on making him "look good" on the camera, but nobody seems to care about the way they dress the guy, LOL. And I honestly haven't noticed any difference in his appearance in 6x02. Oh well. He's also rather elusive (as always) about the supposed longevity of the show ('we'll see what happens") and honestly, his answer gave me an impression that he's not very keen to stay past season 7. At least his wish for "always being challenged" doesn't sound very hopeful for me. He hasn't been really challenged on his own show for ages.

[catsrpeopletoo]

Are we really calling actors whose work in romantic scenes we don't like impotents, now? Somehow I thought this forum was past the kindergarten stage.

[S55]

Honestly, I don't find social media as used by the Castle writers to be all that interesting or insightful about the show at all.  It's mostly them retweeting praise of their own work.

 

The only one I can stand to follow is Rob Hanning, mostly because he's delightfully sarcastic and sassy with fans and I think some corners of the fandom need that (and often). lol Half the time the others are RTd in my timeline so if I miss something ~really important (which isn't often, ha), I'll see it that way. Or here. :) 

[S55]

He's also rather elusive (as always) about the supposed longevity of the show ('we'll see what happens") and honestly, his answer gave me an impression that he's not very keen to stay past season 7. At least his wish for "always being challenged" doesn't sound very hopeful for me. He hasn't been really challenged on his own show for ages.

 

I had the same feeling watching that interview. It's almost like he was sending a subtle message that this is his last year, so it had better "go out on a high note" as per his desire for the show. If indeed he's really done, I hope he isn't (& we aren't) disappointed. 

[Samantha84]

re: Derrick Storm potential series? Someone on twitter suggested Michael Trucco (aka Tom Demming) as Storm. Hello! I'd watch it! Every Castle guest star seems to get their own show anyway LOL! (Alyssa Milano, Dana Delaney, Kristin Lehman). 

[KaveDweller]

I wish TPTB would give Martha an actual life again, she doesn't look like the type that stays single for long.

 

She must have some life and that's why she's not around the loft when we get all those Caskett drinking wine scenes.  We just don't hear about it (like we don't know what's happening with Esplanie, but apparently something is happening).  Maybe because Martha's older she needs more privacy?

 

Feels like they're stuck in a rut to me.

 

Yeah, that happens with a lot of showrunners.  That's why it's sometimes better for shows to only last a few seasons.  But, if they start spending more time on the new show, maybe Marlowe will have less time on Castle.

 

The Olivia and Fitz chemistry is almost uncomfortable to watch. I can't imagine NOT being able to see it even if the show isn't your cup of tea.

 

Chemistry isn't the same as likability.  That's my only issue with Olitz.  I find shows much more enjoyable when I really like the characters.  Maybe that's why I don't have an issue with the level of Caskett's heat.  I watch plenty of shows with unlikable characters, but I don't feel as attached to what happens to them as I do with Castle and Beckett..

[Samantha84]

The Olivia and Fitz chemistry is almost uncomfortable to watch.

 

Good gracious yes! I feel like I'm intruding on a very private moment and then I realize that I'm supposed to be watching. Kerry and Tony's chemistry is unbelievably captivating and amazing. Acting soulmates. Bless Linda (Lowy; casting director), Betsy (Beers; EP), and Shonda Rhimes. 

[Elysium1973]

The chemistry between Kerry and Tony (I saw that like they're my friends) is ridiculous. Their scenes (I'm thinking of the first time they hooked up in the campaign trail, when they hooked up in the oval, and the controversial closet scene) are nothing short of white hot. I get what kave dweller is saying about not caring about the characters; there are a lot of people that don't like Fitz. He doesn't bother me. Maybe it's because I find the actor so appealing.

I think Fillion's got one foot out the door, and, at this point, who could blame him? He's got enough connections that he'll get work doing something, even if it's the con circuit. I could also see him doing a cable show that doesn't have such a shitty shooting schedule. I think most would agree that television is where it's at - as long as you don't hitch your star to a hack. And, for god's sake, I didn't say he was impotent. I'm a physician. I said he might be hypogonadic. Whatever. It wasn't an insult.

I hope all these actors find work doing great projects once Castle is over. They're all incredibly capable.

Oh, and I second a Micheal Trucco vehicle. I would watch Micheal Trucco at a income tax seminar. That man is stupid hot.

[WendyCR72]

I get what kave dweller is saying about not caring about the characters; there are a lot of people that don't like Fitz. He doesn't bother me. Maybe it's because I find the actor so appealing.

 

I always associate poor Tony Goldwyn as either a smarmy loser or sleazebag. Blame Ghost (bad guy) and Law & Order: Criminal Intent (loser drug addict brother of VDO's lead character), so I have a prejudice against the actor. LOL! But good for him if others can like him or love to hate him on Scandal!

[Elysium1973]

Oh my god, Wendy, that's so true! He was such an asshole in Ghost. For some reason I think that faded in my mind and all I associated with him is this incredibly committed actor/director who loves to live tweet his show.

[turnitwayup]

 

re: Derrick Storm potential series? Someone on twitter suggested Michael Trucco (aka Tom Demming) as Storm. Hello! I'd watch it!

 

I would watch it too. He was good as Anders on BSG so this type of role would be fun to watched.

[verdana]

I had the same feeling watching that interview. It's almost like he was sending a subtle message that this is his last year, so it had better "go out on a high note" as per his desire for the show. If indeed he's really done, I hope he isn't (& we aren't) disappointed. 

May be this much spoken of "new mythology" is going to do that, I know some feel this mythology is a sign they're extending the lifespan of the show by moving away from Beckett's mother's murder but equally you could look at it as TPTB knowing this is it for Fillion and finally giving Castle a story of his own.  However I'm not getting my hopes up after similar promises have been made in the past they would concentrate a little more on Castle and nothing came of it. 

Edited August 23, 2014 by verdana

[verdana]

Yeah, that happens with a lot of showrunners.  That's why it's sometimes better for shows to only last a few seasons.  But, if they start spending more time on the new show, maybe Marlowe will have less time on Castle.

I think it's the natural way of things and not just on TV shows, everyone tends to get burnt out after a while especially if its a full on hectic work schedule, they're not machines eventually something has to give and inspiration starts to wane. The problem is I'm selfish and it's my TV entertainment that's being affected so I don't want to see them getting bored or complacent, especially since they're hardly earning peanuts for what they do. It would be better if people knew when it was time to move on and call it a day rather than flogging the horse to death but money is a big incentive and job security too. But I do really admire people who call time before that happens because it must be so tempting (and much easier) to continue plodding along but they know the quality and will to work on it isn't there any more.  

 

As for Marlowe getting distracted with his new project, may be it's a good thing if it frees Amann and the other writers up to take on more responsibility and even try some fresh things out on the show. Although Marlowe doesn't seem keen to relinquish that much control by the looks of things despite the supposed change in job title but if this new project takes off then something has to give and he will have to if Castle isn't going to suffer even more. 

Edited August 23, 2014 by verdana

[S55]

I came across this fansite article via Tumblr (where I lurk despite being WAY above the median age of that website), and found it an interesting read. 

 

On ‘Derrick Storm,’ ulterior motives and what viewers really want

 

Just throwing it out there for discussion. Carry on with your weekend. :) 

[Samantha84]

Agree w. that tumblr article on one very big thing: people watch Castle for two reasons: Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic. 

Someone also suggested Zachary Levi as Derrick Storm. Zach is interested in getting back on TV in a series [he said at NerdHQ that he's ready], he's lead his own series before, and he comes w. a built in fanbase.  As I said before, this Storm series will need to have 2 great leads to make it work. 

[Sonik Tooth]

Some rhetoric in this article, complete with a lurid headline…

 

As I don’t know anything more than this Derrick Storm series is in development, I would just assume that this is what creators in the entertainment industry do or are bound to do by contract. Unless - of course - they want to cease to work in that area of the business.

 

I don’t really see any ulterior motives either, other than ABC/ MilMar trying to get the attention of Castle viewers in hopes that they are also interested in that future project. Just like probably anybody else on the show with a Twitter account, from camera man to actor garnering attention for their respective projects.

 

I’m not really sure about the idea of a spin-off, more like an inception spin-off. I would have a hard time to resist teasing it in the Castle series but I get why they would rather introduce it on its own (if true), especially if there were vast differences in tone and structure.

 

Lastly, for this one people, I would like to extend the reason of viewing Castle to the whole cast and in different combinations, as I very much enjoyed e.g. Castle and  the boys in NTK or Ninjas.

[KaveDweller]

I don’t really see any ulterior motives either, other than ABC/ MilMar trying to get the attention of Castle viewers in hopes that they are also interested in that future project.

 

The motive is everyone wants to make money.  I don't think there's anything else going on here.

Edited August 24, 2014 by KaveDweller

[WendyCR72]

The motive is everyone wants to make money. 

 

And that's why they call it show business!

[verdana]

That's what a lot of fans seem to forget, the drive is to make money, the likes of Marlowe and co aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts as some charitable endeavour although to hear some talk you would think that's indeed their only reason for turning up to work each day. Most decisions in Hollywood seem geared towards making as much money as possible first. You can worry about your artistic integrity later on. 

 

I do agree with the author's comment that without Nathan and Stana its just another pilot in development nothing more or less. I'm sure if it does come to fruition some Castle fans will tune in out of curiosity but I won't be one of them, Derrick Storm simply doesn't interest me. 

[Samantha84]

Raging Heat dedication and acknowledgments

[verdana]

Thanks Samantha, when Castle finally gets around to saying his vows (lets hope they don't get interrupted...) I hope they are suitably eloquent for a writer. I note in the acknowledgements they've actually remembered to put some continuity in due to "circumstances" LOL.  I think I prefer the acknowledgements to the dedication.

 

Whether the wedding is big or small, off the cuff or planned (not that they seem very good at doing that) I am concerned that in an effort to be seen to be doing something unique and memorable (and also given the additional pressure they put themselves under delaying things) I'll get something "zany" instead that will be memorable alright but for all the wrong reasons. 

Edited August 25, 2014 by verdana

[Samantha84]

I like the acknowledgment to Beckett better, too. "My muse, my inspiration, and my life". That should have been the dedication. Also? I want that romantic and loving Richard Castle back on my screen in season 7 .. please?!

[FlickerToAFlame]

@MollyQuinn93: I want to address something about Alexis & Kate's relationship.

There never has been tension. There has been miscommunication

#Castle

[Samantha84]

Dear Molly, for there to be miscommunication there must be communication. Beckett and Alexis don't communicate. The characters have been in the same scene together and don't say more than a dozen, if that, words to each other. They talk to and through Castle.

 

Sincerely Sam. 

[Brit Babe]

Why is Molly addressing this? How random! These characters have had zero communication since Season 2 - except for some scowling and shouting by Alexis.

 

Ugh, why didn't they ship her off to Stanford again?

[WendyCR72]

Why is Molly addressing this? How random!

 

Maybe some on Twitter asked her to. While she should have ignored, I can see why she would try, in that case. And I'll just say it: If Alexis left, Castle would be just Beckett's fiancé at that point, and the well-roundedness that was his life would be COMPLETELY gone if Alexis was. Especially since Castle's career merits barely a blip now.

 

So, just for that alone, at least Castle still has the father label/Alexis interaction.

 

(Martha barely counts these days herself, since poor Susan Sullivan seems to have a walk-on role now.)

[madmaverick]

Can there be miscommunication when there has been an absence of communication? ;)  That was my first thought too.

 

How random and odd that Molly brought this up all of a sudden!  Was she responding to something?  Or preparing herself for the inevitable backlash when the Alexis/Beckett tension, I'm sorry, miscommunication arises. ;)

 

Was there "miscommunication" between Alexis and Castle last season too?  'Cause I thought there was a clear case of communication from Alexis, of the disrespectful, brattish sort. ;)  Of course Alexis then shut down all communication until she decided she needed her dear old Dad to do something for her.  And she still didn't get off her high horse and continued to fuel the tension (and the grovelling from Dad). 

 

I really hope they don't play out same kind of "miscommunication" this season with Alexis, except it's with Beckett instead of Castle.  They got the emotional notes wrong there for the characters in my opinion, and I don't want to see it wrong again this season.

 

Gosh, for a second there I thought Molly wanted to address something about her and Stana's relationship, or heaven forbid, Stana and Nathan's relationship. ;)   But her addressing fictional relationships should be drama enough heh.

 

Just to be clear, I blame AM for the poor writing of the Alexis/Beckett (non) relationship completely.  Like many other relationships on the show, they're not as strong as in the early seasons, and have been neglected and treated carelessly in the later seasons.

Edited August 25, 2014 by madmaverick

[Sonik Tooth]

Didn't Marlowe say something about how Alexis and Martha would struggle because a long investigation hadn't lead to any answers? That suggests the jump is before he is found, but I suppose it could be after if it is about trying to find out what happens.

 

Right, he did mention that. Well, if this acknowledgement (from Samantha84 in the Castle in the Media thread) displays any continuity or accurately presents fictional circumstances of the series, I don’t get the feeling that he is still missing, like vanished, with nobody knowing if he’s still alive. It’s too “upbeat” and has this flair of secrecy to it. So they are all rattled, there is a long investigation going on, and Mr. Castle is apparently still not at home because he is somewhere unavailable.

 

I’m really curious how this will play out… and if they manage to start this whole new mythology without retconning Castle’s past.

[madmaverick]

Interview Milmar & Castle writers in an industry magazine: http://www.bluetoad.com/publication/?i=222491&pre=1#
 
Warning: interview may cause annoyance (nothing new there). ;)
 
My takeaways:
- AM says they held on more tightly in the 1st season because they were trying to define the characters' voices then.  I think losing some of that discipline in latter seasons has on occasion hurt the characters and the show.  Characters' voices have been ill-defined at times, even lost track of.

- Why is Castle simple described as "egotistical" whilst Beckett is "gorgeous and Hepburnesque"?

 

- Article actually goes into the deleted scene fiasco.  Was this written by a "fan"?  Thankfully no mention of "respect the process" ('cause we're getting the scene anyway?). ;)

 

- "They're mad at us now, but we know where we're going, and they don't," Marlowe says, with a pleased smile.  

 
Oh, spare me, please!  He probably thinks he knew where he was going in the previous few seasons but that didn't make them satisfying! ;)  I get the sense that he still finds amusement in getting fans riled up but fails to realise that his often intended payoff whenever it comes isn't as satisfying as he believes, and doesn't make up for all the legitimate flaws in the writing that the audience has a problem with, and which he continually fails to address.
 
- Same line about there being little regime change makes me wonder why Marlowe bothered to step back anyway (if indeed it was of his choosing).
 
- "We burn a lot of story very fast an we also have a high bar for story..., " Miller observes.

 

My reaction: LOL.  Is that why we have to have so many (boring) interrogation scenes per episode?  And one season long wedding planning arc culminating in no wedding?
 
- Excuse me, but I think they can't resist inserting at least one joke from Castle per dead body.
 
- "Staff looks at the concept of an episode to see if it can lead to intrinsic C/B dialogue."  

Does that mean they can't write C/B banter without a themed murder? ;)  Even then, they still often can't.
 
- I would actually like to see TPW's Castle: SVU episode.  They already did torture on the show several times.  Could it get darker than that? ;)
 
- "But it's about not sacrificing who those characters are in order to fulfill a story element that we're excited about."  

Couldn't agree more, TPW.  So why do you guys keep doing it?!  Most recently, FBFW.
 
- Marlowe's a "genius, "a bit of a savant".  

Oh geez, that's way too much.  Can't help but wonder if some are created more equal than others in the writers' room since those who gave out these compliments got more attention in the article than the other writers. ;)
 
- So Milmar wrote FBFW in 5 days and had to make fixes.  No wonder.  Too bad they didn't work! ;)
 
- Sorry, but the official Castle twitter account is far less entertaining and witty than the parody one.
 
- I think what we can see of the writers' whiteboard is just made up stuff.  But had to laugh at: "Castle's bedroom: C & B Kiss".  Like when?! ;)