TWP February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I wonder if some of the animosity stems from people having to face the fact that Stana and Nathan will never be a couple. 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Okay, gang. We've all had our say about comments and such. Let's steer this back towards real spoilers, spec, and media stuff. Thanks! 1 Link to comment
verdana February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Dead Red sneak peek http://www.tvguide.com/news/castle-exclusive-even-the-russians-are-upset-about-castle-and-beckett-being-apart/ Link to comment
TWP February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Promo for Dead Red. http://youtu.be/1QeszcaJVF8 The pre-music sleigh bells make me think they had planned to air this before Christmas. Link to comment
Chado February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Looking for a short summary from those who actually find season 8 terrible and have watched episode 10 and 11.....has anything improved? I doubt I'm going to watch unless those with similar view points about this season tell me something different, otherwise waiting til episode 16 Link to comment
verdana February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Castle 8x12 Promo "The Blame Game" (HD) Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Anyone watched this BTS piece from a German TV set visit? At around 20 mins, it's quite an extensive look. You can hit bits and pieces in English behind the dubbing, but it's a bit hard to hear everything. Anyone seen a translation out there? http://www.kabeleins.de/tv/abenteuer-leben-taeglich/videos/201631-montag-am-set-der-crime-serie-ganze-folge I think if I heard the complete interviews in English, I would laugh even more, inadvertently. Luke is interviewed and he says something about 1m Euros. Guessing that's his budget. Which given the job he does... let's just say I'm glad it's not my money. ;) He starts talking about Castle's jackets though I can't make out what he's saying (saying they tailored by him? ;)). He shares that Nathan's easy and as long as something fits and looks good, he's fine with it. Had to LOL here. As long as it fits, of course. Oh, Luke. Poor Nathan. If a guy doesn't really understand what fits and looks good, it's the professional's job to advise him. He says something about the California episode and so Castle wears a lot of blue in that episode. LOL, again. They do shoot in California all the time so maybe that explains why he wears so much blue. ;) He then moves on to Beckett's jackets and there's a whole section of coat porn right there. He does have 1m to burn. ;) He can't resist showing off the Burberry. ;) He says something about balancing the "Beckett look" with the realities of her job, which makes me want to LOL again. Finally, he can't resist showing off the ugly wedding dress. Again. And sharing its price tag. Again. Just how many of those ugly dresses did he buy?! Bowman pops up later on in the editor's room, where the editor is incidentally editing the Russian episode that just aired. Bowman talks super seriously about his craft as usual and he talks about how a sightly different cut can make something a lot funnier or less so... (Or not? My opinion. ;)) He says the key word is "precision"! And then he says the key thing is "credibility"!! Keeping it real. I'm sure Bowman didn't intend to make me laugh, but oh I did. Thankfully for my sanity he made no mention of how turning off the lights makes everything more cinematic and artistic. ;) Nathan is interviewed and is the tour guide on quite an extensive tour through the sets, showing some interesting details that I didn't know before. Still lusting after Castle's loft. To have that square footage... in Manhattan! The loft kitchen works and he said something about being good at making a Dutch pancake? Nathan liked the lights (heh) so much in his PI office, he got them for his own home. The morgue table has an electric blanket to warm it up for actors before they play dead bodies. Good idea! They call the interrogation room the meat locker because it's so cold in there. There's some random toy on top of the vending machine in the break room that Nathan bought to work one day in S1 and it's been there ever since heh. Espo has a photo album from a fan on his desk with photos of the cast from Paley. He talked about how the set is home with a lot of adventures, and the hours they work. He also talked about Castle & Beckett and their relationship, and why Castle is a success. Sounded a bit similar to what he's said before but it was a bit hard to make out. Jon and Seamus were also interviewed. Said they do have a lot of fun on set and people should be arrested if they're not watching S8. ;) Link to comment
Lucynda February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 He starts talking about Castle's jackets though I can't make out what he's saying (saying they tailored by him? ;)). He shares that Nathan's easy and as long as something fits and looks good, he's fine with it. Had to LOL here. As long as it fits, of course. Oh, Luke. Poor Nathan. If a guy doesn't really understand what fits and looks good, it's the professional's job to advise him. He says something about the California episode and so Castle wears a lot of blue in that episode. LOL, again. The loft kitchen works and he said something about being good at making a Dutch pancake? He says that he and Nathan found a look that works for Castle and that he tailors everything himself except for the jeans. Those are store-bought. And Nathan says that if he were to cook for you a whole week, you'd be getting the same three meals multiple times, and one of those is the Dutch pancake. Not sure I would mind that. ;) Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 (edited) Lucynda, thanks for sharing. Do you remember what he said about Caskett? Something about them being opposites attract? He says that he and Nathan found a look that works for Castle and that he tailors everything himself except for the jeans. Those are store-bought. No wonder the jeans look good and look like they fit. ;) Where does he find the time to tailor all of Castle's stuff himself, or is that why Castle's stuck wearing the same clothes for so much of the time? Same shirts, same suits. Do you remember what Luke said about Beckett's look? Something about the need for many different looks for her in an episode as he took out various jackets? I really am curious as to why he doesn't tailor any of her clothes himself Like at all. I recall he tailored some of Gates' suits himself. And Nathan says that if he were to cook for you a whole week, you'd be getting the same three meals multiple times, and one of those is the Dutch pancake. Not sure I would mind that. ;) Me either. :P Even if they weren't made by Nathan. Or Castle. Heh. But I would love to see a demo from both, on and off the show. I actually thought he was a decent cook. Or at least has several dishes that he can cook well that he's cooked a lot. Edited February 16, 2016 by madmaverick Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 What do people think of the description for the upcoming Castle book, High Heat? An ISIS-style beheading of a journalist, carried out by a New York City group pledging fealty to that rogue state, becomes more than just another case for NYPD Captain Nikki Heat when the killers announce their next target: her husband, magazine writer Jameson Rook. Meanwhile, Heat is haunted by a fleeting glimpse of someone she swears is her mother... a woman who has been dead for nearly twenty years. I think the titles are getting worse but the book description is interesting. Will be interesting to see how the author writes married Rook/Heat. Wouldn't be surprised if he/she does a better job than the TV writers. Not sure I'd want to see an ISIS like group featured on Castle though. So much of that in the real world already. Just for discussion's sake, what would people think if there were a fleeting glimpse of Johanna Beckett on Castle? I think the probability of that happening is as likely as that of us ever seeing a baby Caskett on Castle. But never say never. Once upon a time, I didn't think we would have spy dads and spy stepmoms and locksat conspiracies on Castle, and yet here we are. ;) Link to comment
Lucynda February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 madmaverick: I just fast-forwarded through the video and here's what Nathan said: "they are two people that are completely different, which is very close to the reality. When you hate someone who is exactly like you, the two of you won't get along very well." And then he said Castle and Beckett complete each other. (Didn't catch the exact wording, sorry.) And here are some more snippets that might be interesting: - Luke said they have a budget of 1 million Euros to order clothes that are worth 5 million Euros, and only 1/5 of those clothes make it onto the screen. - About Beckett he said they want to give the impression that she's a real person, not a fashionmonger, which is why she doesn't get to wear new clothes every episode. - They are walking a fine line between the Classic Beckett Look, and the new Captain Look she needs to wear in order to be dressed appropriately at the precinct. According to Luke, she got more serious but did not lose that Beckett spirit, which is why she will keep wearing the Burberry coat that he showed. - Nathan said he's not a cook, but there are three meals that he knows how to preprare that make you go 'wow, man, that was amazing.' And then he mentions the Dutch baby pancakes. I think that was about it. :) My guess is that Luke designed Penny's suits because she's a bit shorter (if I remember correctly) and maybe doesn't fit into designer brands so well, whereas Stana does? She's certainly got the height and body type... Link to comment
KaveDweller February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Just for discussion's sake, what would people think if there were a fleeting glimpse of Johanna Beckett on Castle? Shark jumping. But Revenge brought back the dead parent who's death provided the set up for the whole show. So, I guess it could be done. Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 madmaverick: I just fast-forwarded through the video and here's what Nathan said: "they are two people that are completely different, which is very close to the reality. When you hate someone who is exactly like you, the two of you won't get along very well." And then he said Castle and Beckett complete each other. (Didn't catch the exact wording, sorry.) Lucynda, thanks again! I appreciate what you already shared. :) Your snippets are interesting. Maybe the people who think he doesn't care about the love story at all can appreciate what he said here. ;) - Luke said they have a budget of 1 million Euros to order clothes that are worth 5 million Euros, and only 1/5 of those clothes make it onto the screen. So, it's a bargain? :P ;) At least I hope those clothes are all recycled otherwise it would be a a massive waste, not just of money. Still think they tend towards the excess in the business. - About Beckett he said they want to give the impression that she's a real person, not a fashionmonger, which is why she doesn't get to wear new clothes every episode. So just every second episode then? :P ;) I think people can debate whether Beckett has evolved into a fashionista. She certainly didn't seem like one in the beginning, that's for sure. - They are walking a fine line between the Classic Beckett Look, and the new Captain Look she needs to wear in order to be dressed appropriately at the precinct. According to Luke, she got more serious but did not lose that Beckett spirit, which is why she will keep wearing the Burberry coat that he showed. Sorry to keep snarking on the wardrobe, but how exactly does one show a spirit by wearing Burberry? Should I ask the Beckhams? ;) For the record, I don't object to Beckett having a few designer coats, but it's just gone overboard imo in the hands of Luke, and not reflective of the character's previous personality traits or her means. - Nathan said he's not a cook, but there are three meals that he knows how to preprare that make you go 'wow, man, that was amazing.' And then he mentions the Dutch baby pancakes. OK, now I want to know what the three meals are. :P Heh, I will always think of the line on Castle when I think of pancakes. My guess is that Luke designed Penny's suits because she's a bit shorter (if I remember correctly) and maybe doesn't fit into designer brands so well, whereas Stana does? She's certainly got the height and body type... Could be. I just don't understand why if he takes such pride in his own tailoring he doesn't tailor more stuff for everyone, just Castle, but opts for a parade of designer brands instead for everyone but Castle. I think he mostly buys off the rack for Ryan and Esposito too. Maybe he thinks he's got a set formula that works for Castle and so he sticks to it. But with Beckett, he certainly believes in a lot of variety to the extent where I'm not sure what her personal style actually is. Shark jumping. But Revenge brought back the dead parent who's death provided the set up for the whole show. So, I guess it could be done. Alias did it and did it well. Well, for one season. It would be hard to work a resurrected dead parent into a crime procedural like Castle though, unless they do it like Jackson Hunt. One minute he's there and the next he's gone. And make her a spy as well. ;) It really would be stretching credibility and a tired twist at this point, but then again, we might care more about Johanna than we ever would about some quest for justice with Locksat. ;) Link to comment
verdana February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 (edited) 17 Wonderful Women in Charge at TV Fanatic 8. Kate Beckett (Castle) After years of hard work, Kate Beckett (Stana Katic) finally worked her way up and become a detective at the 12th Precinct. No one deserved the job more than her, and she's already proving to be great at it. I really can't tell the difference between her role as detective and captain, the writers make the jobs appear interchangeable, I know it makes life easier for them but I wish they hadn't bothered. Edited February 16, 2016 by verdana Link to comment
S55 February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 For me, hearing Luke discuss his methodology for costumes is nauseating. I've long stopped caring about his fashion choices for actors/characters since my gripes with them (on a lot of levels) will never be addressed. He clearly has his muses and that's reflected in how he does his job. And I continue to miss Sal. Especially when seeing what a fabulous job he's doing on The Mindy Project. 1 Link to comment
verdana February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 (edited) And Nathan says that if he were to cook for you a whole week, you'd be getting the same three meals multiple times, and one of those is the Dutch pancake. Not sure I would mind that. ;) I actually thought he was a decent cook. Or at least has several dishes that he can cook well that he's cooked a lot. I find boiling an egg a huge challenge so this was always a very important requirement when it came to finding a partner so as not to consign myself to the hell of a lifetime of takeaway food or burnt soup. Nathan sounds perfect lol. madmaverick. Your snark matches my snark when it comes to Luke and his "fashion" choices for Castle you summed it all up wonderfully and thanks Lucynda, I haven't laughed so much in ages. Just for discussion's sake, what would people think if there were a fleeting glimpse of Johanna Beckett on Castle? That the writers must have been told the show's not got long to go and they've decided what the hell lets go out in a blaze of shark jumping glory! And I'm laying bets right now that if Johanna Beckett does appear alive and well she'll be dressed in Burberry. What do people think of the description for the upcoming Castle book, High Heat? The title makes me think of the menopause. Thanks for the heads up though, I've found the books generally more enjoyable as they've gone along, I'm sure you're right they'll be much better written as a couple there than on the show, the ISIS link puts me off a bit though. Bowman pops up later on in the editor's room, where the editor is incidentally editing the Russian episode that just aired. Bowman talks super seriously about his craft as usual and he talks about how a sightly different cut can make something a lot funnier or less so... (Or not? My opinion. ;)) He says the key word is "precision"! And then he says the key thing is "credibility"!! Keeping it real. His nose didn't start to grow longer by any chance when he got to talking about credibility did it? Heh. I wish someone would question him about the way he lights things (or doesn't) and why he thinks watching actors in silhouette or bathed in various strange hues look so much better, his filming style drives to me distraction. I don't want to notice those kind of things, I want to enjoy the characters and the story playing out not spend my time fiddling with the contrast buttons on my computer or tipping my screen backwards and forwards to see if things might look better from an angle. Edited February 16, 2016 by verdana Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 I find boiling an egg a huge challenge :0 But you can't really go wrong! It always ends up cooked. :P Better get your partner in on those Dutch pancakes if he/she doesn't do them already. :P The title makes me think of the menopause. Now you really ruined my boiled egg. :P I just thought of my stove heh. What's next? Simmering Heat? Sizzling Heat? And I'm laying bets right now that if Johanna Beckett does appear alive and well she'll be dressed in Burberry heh. I can see it now. Clad in a black Burberry trench. Possibly with a turtleneck inside. For the symbolism, you see. ;) Standing on a dark street corner, her eyes gleaming with guilt and love. "Mom?" And then we find out it was all a dream in the next season premiere heh. And I continue to miss Sal. Especially when seeing what a fabulous job he's doing on The Mindy Project. That's a guy who knows how to dress all shapes and sizes and knows his colours in a good, bold way. His nose didn't start to grow longer by any chance when he got to talking about credibility did it? Heh. I wish someone would question him about the way he lights things (or doesn't) and why he thinks watching actors in silhouette or bathed in various strange hues look so much better, his filming style drives to me distraction. I've given up on his lighting, and Castle's lighting in general. They clearly want their dark look. But I would question him on their choices in editing (and really, in writing) with some of the weirdly off emotional notes they've ended up with in final cut. When the goal isn't ambiguity but the audience doesn't know what you're going for or finds what you're going for to be out of place, then you've got a credibility issue. 1 Link to comment
KaveDweller February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Alias did it and did it well. Well, for one season. It would be hard to work a resurrected dead parent into a crime procedural like Castle though, unless they do it like Jackson Hunt. One minute he's there and the next he's gone. And make her a spy as well. ;) It really would be stretching credibility and a tired twist at this point, but then again, we might care more about Johanna than we ever would about some quest for justice with Locksat. ;) But on Alias she came back from the dead in season 1. We hadn't spent 8 years hearing how Sydney had become a spy because of her tragic death. Link to comment
Lucynda February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 No problem! Though I wish I could have provided more interesting insights. The title makes me think of the menopause. I don't think I have laughed this hard in ages! Thanks for that, verdana. Someone else said it before me in this thread, the book titles just keep on getting worse. Though the contents get better in my opinion. ;) Link to comment
verdana February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 :0 But you can't really go wrong! It always ends up cooked. :P Better get your partner in on those Dutch pancakes if he/she doesn't do them already. :P Oh they're cooked alright, so hard they would count as a lethal weapon if thrown. My partner loathes making pancakes and I love them so may be I should head off to LA and start lurking around Nathan's house in the hope I get lucky heh. Clad in a black Burberry trench. Possibly with a turtleneck inside.For the symbolism, you see. ;) LOL that's exactly the look I had in my mind, if it actually happened I would be so freaked out thinking Luke must have been lurking on here but then I'd get angry that he never took any of our great sartorial advice about how to dress Castle! Link to comment
madmaverick February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 (edited) But on Alias she came back from the dead in season 1. We hadn't spent 8 years hearing how Sydney had become a spy because of her tragic death. That is true. How did they handle it on Revenge? Wasn't the main character's reason for existence all about avenging the dead parent? Someone else said it before me in this thread, the book titles just keep on getting worse. Though the contents get better in my opinion. ;) Agreed. Whomever has been writing them have been improving with time. Still have good memories of that scene where Castle told Beckett that he'd named the character 'Nikki Heat'. And that conversation in the car where he had all these compliments for the character/Beckett and then added she was also 'a little slutty'. I miss their car scenes. And I don't know, there are times that I miss that playful antagonistic edge to their early relationship. Married playful plays out differently as they write it. start lurking around Nathan's house in the hope I get lucky heh Hehe. Double meaning intended or not? :P Edited February 16, 2016 by madmaverick Link to comment
femmefan1946 February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Here's a recipe for Dutch Baby pancakes: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/23898/dutch-babies-ii/ At a guess a second meal would be the Bean Dip of the Gods: http://fuckyeahnathanfillion.tumblr.com/post/2605338268/seven-layer-bean-dip-of-the-gods Link to comment
TWP February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 So in an upcoming episode, Castle goes under cover as a French Canadian immigrant. What a stretch! #snarkattack. I wonder if his name will be Nathaniel Phillione or something. I rest my case that Nathan plays himself ;-). Link to comment
verdana February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Here's a recipe for Dutch Baby pancakes: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/23898/dutch-babies-ii/ Oooh thank you! I may be brave and give this a go when everyone is safely out the house and I can happily mess up the kitchen. But I'll pass on the bean dip... Watch what you love.@Sandraxf #Castle Episode 8.13 "And Justice for All" - Promotional Photos http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/castle/photos/ … I miss their car scenes. And I don't know, there are times that I miss that playful antagonistic edge to their early relationship. Married playful plays out differently as they write it. Yeah me too, they had some great exchanges and I loved the slight hard edge Castle had to him in those days that really helped up the snark factor when he was teasing her and Beckett could dish it out too. Link to comment
KaveDweller February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 That is true. How did they handle it on Revenge? Wasn't the main character's reason for existence all about avenging the dead parent? They handled it really badly on Revenge. Cause, yeah, her reason for existence was to get revenge on those who wronged her father by framing him for mass murder (leading him to die in prison). And everything that happened in the first three seasons was either part of her revenge plan, or something that went wrong with her revenge plans. Then in the last season he was suddenly around. He still got framed for mass murder, so I guess she still had reason for revenge but it still kind of ruined things Yeah me too, they had some great exchanges and I loved the slight hard edge Castle had to him in those days that really helped up the snark factor when he was teasing her and Beckett could dish it out too. Snarky banter is what made me fall in love with this show. There have been lots of episodes where they had good banter since becoming a couple, even if the tone changed. But the banter is definitely lacking this season. Link to comment
TWP February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 What? No Castle tonight? I'm having withdrawals! ;-) I'm getting used to it being an every night thing. Maybe they can spin off into a daytime soap, just for me ;-). Link to comment
CastleSeason8 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 What? No Castle tonight? I'm having withdrawals! ;-) I'm getting used to it being an every night thing. Maybe they can spin off into a daytime soap, just for me ;-).The storylines are kind of soap like so...Sorry. Link to comment
FlickerToAFlame February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 (edited) Well, Paul Lee has resigned. Should makes things interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/business/media/paul-lee-resign-abc-entertainment.html?_r=1 Update: Channing Dungey will succeed Paul Lee as ABC's entertainment presdient http://tvline.com/2016/02/17/paul-lee-abc-president-quits-leaving/ Edited February 17, 2016 by FlickerToAFlame Link to comment
verdana February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 (edited) Oh I'm going to miss making fun of Paul Lee and his pronouncements, I wonder if it's going to make any difference one way or another to Castle? Probably not. Nice to see a woman in charge. I love the typical PR guff they all spout in that TV line article now he's gone lol. I see there's comments about any possible spin off being dead in the water after Lee's departure but that was probably a load of hot air in the first place. Edited February 17, 2016 by verdana Link to comment
S55 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 Sounds like a coup led by Ben Sherwood. And it appears the new president is a big Shonda champion. Should be interesting to see how it plays out for Castle and others. Link to comment
WendyCR72 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 Update: Channing Dungey will succeed Paul Lee as ABC's entertainment president Ironically, her sister Merrin Dungey, an actress who has been on Alias and other shows, was on Castle in "Den of Thieves" as Monica Finch per IMDB. She was also part of the Shondaland world as the original Dr. Naomi Bennett, who appeared on Grey's Anatomy before that part was recast with Audra McDonald on the Private Practice spinoff. It'll be interesting to see what Channing Dungey does. Link to comment
TWP February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 (edited) Paul Lee: My prediction: The Castle spinoff is dead ;-). My other prediction: ABC will change it's name to S(honda)BC ;-). Edited February 17, 2016 by TWP Link to comment
WendyCR72 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 Paul Lee: My prediction: The Castle spinoff is dead ;-). My other prediction: ABC will change it's name to S(honda)BC ;-). And ABC/SBC can astill go head to head with NBC/D(ick)W(olf)BC, who has been keeping NBC afloat with, first the L&O/L&O: SVU/L&O: CI, et. al. franchise and now the Chicago Fire/Chicago P.D./Chicago Med/possibly Chicago Law franchise. I can even see the slogan! D(ick)W(olf)BC: Keeping the network in the black since 1990. Even CBS is the NCIS/CSI franchise network now! More so the former. How nice that three of the four broadcast networks have/had their own franchises to keep them from drowning! Link to comment
break21 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I like Shonda but she has a lot riding on The Chase. Her other shows are aging and it doesn't appear to be the ensemble show she usually produces. Link to comment
Samantha84 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I like Shonda but she has a lot riding on The Chase. It's The Catch and Shonda is exec producer (through her production company Shondaland) not the showrunner or writer [like How To Get Away With Murder]. Basically she's not the day-to-day hands on like she is with Scandal. Link to comment
BellyLaughter February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I don't think the shake up at ABC changes anything as far as Castle is concerned. Given how thin on the ground ABCs programming is right now if they can secure Nathan I am pretty certain there will be another season - and he seems a safer bet than Stana ATM I just hope they look outside to build a really likeable support cast around him. Some new faces may not be such a bad idea should the show have to carry on sans Stana. A fresh start, so to speak. Link to comment
CastleSeason8 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I don't think the shake up at ABC changes anything as far as Castle is concerned. Given how thin on the ground ABCs programming is right now if they can secure Nathan I am pretty certain there will be another season - and he seems a safer bet than Stana ATM I just hope they look outside to build a really likeable support cast around him. Some new faces may not be such a bad idea should the show have to carry on sans Stana. A fresh start, so to speak.I get what ur saying here but i cant quite jive the numbers. They will lose viewers as they do at the start of every season, then add to that maybe half or a quarter of fans who wont come back because Stana is gone. Doesnt leave much in the way of ratings?? Just my thoughts. I dont know enough about this stuff. 2 Link to comment
break21 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I agree - I think NF is the only indispensable character. They could rebuild it, depends on NF IMO. I also agree, they need to bring in other supporting characters - make it an ensemble show with him as the lead. If I were head of ABC, I'd do that before taking a flyer on another flop d Link to comment
BellyLaughter February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 I get what ur saying here but i cant quite jive the numbers. They will lose viewers as they do at the start of every season, then add to that maybe half or a quarter of fans who wont come back because Stana is gone. Doesnt leave much in the way of ratings?? Just my thoughts. I dont know enough about this stuff. Oh don't get me wrong -- I think it would be a total crap shoot if they try it! I'm just suggesting that they may not have much choice than to take the chance because of how programming is shaping up for the network this season and that a change at the top isn't gonna change that reality!! Not a great reason to keep an ailing show that's leaking numbers on air, I agree! Link to comment
CastleSeason8 February 17, 2016 Share February 17, 2016 Well, wont look too good for NF if the show craps after 4 eps. 1 Link to comment
break21 February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 IMO, if he signs or not will have no effect on his career, even if the show tanks. He has a high Q-score. He reminds me of Mark Harmon on tv,, but with more connections and talent and connections to have a dual-career. Link to comment
TWP February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 I get what ur saying here but i cant quite jive the numbers. They will lose viewers as they do at the start of every season, then add to that maybe half or a quarter of fans who wont come back because Stana is gone. Doesnt leave much in the way of ratings?? Just my thoughts. I dont know enough about this stuff. One part of the equation that you didn't consider is the potential new audience that a spinoff might bring based on alteration of the plot. What if it takes a sci-fi bend, etc. It could bring more new audience numbers than it loses. I hope that my prediction is wrong and they do the spinoff. Nathan and Stana will do fine whatever happens. My main affection is with the supporting crew and I hope they keep their steady employment. Link to comment
BlakesMomma February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 IMO, if he signs or not will have no effect on his career, even if the show tanks. He has a high Q-score. He reminds me of Mark Harmon on tv,, but with more connections and talent and connections to have a dual-career. Big names on TV have shows fail all the time. I don't think it will reflect badly on Nathan. Look how many he had before Castle and still moved up in his career. I also think people fail to take into account the number of Nathan fans who don't watch Castle for various reasons, but would watch a spin-off or show with just him and a bit different premise. Link to comment
CastleSeason8 February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 I guess i was just thinking that if they go on with just NF and it fails, there will be a lot of people out there screaming that he couldnt carry the show without her. Not saying thats right or wrong.... Link to comment
verdana February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 (edited) One part of the equation that you didn't consider is the potential new audience that a spinoff might bring based on alteration of the plot. What if it takes a sci-fi bend, etc. It could bring more new audience numbers than it loses.Castle seems to be heading into fantasy land already so stepping into sci-fi would be no stretch.Even if a spin off crashed and burned Fillion would be just fine, he's one of those people that has a solid core of buddies and he's liked in the industry and I figure he'll always get work of some kind that will keep his bank account sufficiently padded. Any possible fan anger directed at NF I figure would soon pass as everyone moves on to other things to be pissed off about the following week. Edited February 18, 2016 by verdana 1 Link to comment
madmaverick February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 Power struggle at a network! Sounds like drama. Maybe someone should make a TV show about the power plays at a TV network. ;) But Paul Lee will land on his feet somewhere, and congrats to the first African American woman network president. Neither of them look that old so it's likely they can climb further up the career ladder. Ironically, her sister Merrin Dungey, an actress who has been on Alias and other shows, was on Castle in "Den of Thieves" as Monica Finch per IMDB Interesting fact. Merrin Dungey was memorable on Alias but i'm afraid I can't remember who she played on Castle. I see there's comments about any possible spin off being dead in the water after Lee's departure but that was probably a load of hot air in the first place. I tend to think the spinoff talk was more hot air talk than not. Never say never but I've seen nothing to indicate that it was a more likely outcome than others. I think that it's interesting that Nathan's done a live tweet recently (though obviously he does them from time to time) and Stana's tweeted more about Castle recently than she has all season, and others like Seamus and Molly have been tweeting about Castle reminding people to watch. Susan's been a regular cheerleader. Maybe it's because the ratings are down, maybe it's because negotiations about next season are taking place, maybe it means nothing. I guess i was just thinking that if they go on with just NF and it fails, there will be a lot of people out there screaming that he couldnt carry the show without her. Not saying thats right or wrong.... Those people will be relishing their hate no matter what he does or doesn't do. Stana should be on a one woman show so those fans of hers can stop griping about her costars. Link to comment
pepper February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 I have no interest in a Fillion-only spin-off. I watch this show for the dynamics between the TWO leads and I used to watch it for the clever plots and fun dialogue. We've lost the last two and if I lose the first I'm out. Sorry, but I don't see how Nathan Fillion has "better connections" than Mark Harmon. Harmon has been on one of the highest rated shows (often the number one show) on television for a long time. He has been in Hollywood a long time and at one point was named People Magazine's sexiest man alive. Before becoming an actor, he was a sports legend. His current show is still doing better than Castle. I don't get the calculation that makes him less connected. His personal life seems to be deliberately personal, so we have no idea who his buddies might be, but it's a huge leap to take that to mean that he has no influential friends in the business. Quite a large percentage of Castle viewers did not come to the show because of Fillion. The audience, even at its peak, skewed older and more female that the Firefly audience. Nobody I know IRL who watches (that should be watched, since I don't know anybody who's still sticking with it, except me!) did so because they were fans of either actor beforehand. They just liked the combination of drama, fun and sexual chemistry and got hooked. My point is that if drama, fun and sexual chemistry are what attracted people to the show, what's going to keep them watching that show featuring a widower who lost the love of his life? No fun and no sexual chemistry in that. I could be wrong, so if there is a spin-off I'll check in here to see how it went. 5 Link to comment
verdana February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 (edited) Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on Gilmore Girls, Jane the Virgin, Castle, New Girl, Blindspot, Grimm and more at TVline http://tvline.com/2016/02/18/gilmore-girls-season-8-spoilers-revival-logan-jess-ask-ausiello/ A possibly magic lamp plays a key role in Castle Episode 17. Rick apparently thinks he can wrangle three wishes out of it. Try to guess at least two of them in the comments. Go.A magic lamp huh.....I know what I'd be wishing for if I was in his shoes, that they hit the rewind button and Locksat/mythology mess never happened, have Alexis get a proper job and give me a decent wardrobe. Edited February 19, 2016 by verdana 2 Link to comment
break21 February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 JMO - I think Fillion brings in a lot viewers. But it comes down to the writing. 1 Link to comment
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