S9.E8: Kicking and Screaming

[ZettaK]

Lindsay becomes convinced Carl was untruthful during their engagement, and a shocking revelation threatens Lexi and Jesse's relationship. 

First aired on 4/2/2025.

[bosawks]

I feel like Carl appearing to drink one of the drinks of his company for the first time isn’t the look they think it is.

I appreciate Jesse leaning into his villain era.

[snarts]

STFU Lindsey. If she was truly so happy with her new man, pregnancy, etc. she wouldn't be so pressed & bothered about Carl. The bitterness isn't cute. Take note, Paige. 

Of course Jessie hit it & quit it. He's friends with West...

[dancingdreamer]

I don't  understand  Lindsay,  and of course  she's  going to berate Carl in front of everyone. She's  still not happy, and she doesn't  want him to be. 

Lexi met Carl and jumped on him within a few minutes, she knew what he was like. 

[Back Atcha]

On 4/2/2025 at 6:58 PM, snarts said:

STFU Lindsey. If she was truly so happy with her new man, pregnancy, etc. she wouldn't be so pressed & bothered about Carl.

On 4/2/2025 at 11:19 PM, dancingdreamer said:

I don't  understand  Lindsay,  and of course  she's  going to berate Carl in front of everyone. She's  still not happy, and she doesn't  want him to be. 

100%. Another of Andy Cohen's obsessions: Lindsay.  WHY?  She's not likeable.  She as always thought she was better than every person in this childless group.  Her life has taken a new (un"expected"?) turn; it's time to move on. Lindsay will never be  happy* and for that reason, she brings CHAOS to those around her...and heartbreak to those who think they love her.   WALK AWAY, EVERYONE!

*That's always someone else's fault.

Edited Sunday at 04:41 PM by Back Atcha

[ZettaK]

Really Lindsay? Cheater? People who are on a reality show, or are famous get tons of DMs on social media from women who want to be with them, or about business opportunities. It doesn't mean they want to connect with someone (or that they did). She is too angry for somebody that is supposedly over Carl. 

Jessie humiliated Lexi twice. With the toe sucking that was probably something else- why would he even "check" on Imrul who was with two women in his bedroom, and flirting with Ciara during a weekend she was absent.

The group doesn't have too much faith (if not at all) in the success of Carl's new business. It is painfully obvious from what they said in their confessionals. 

[Shauna]

I'm super grossed out by Lexi's lips.  I think it is the liner.  And weird that her lips are all done up, but no eye make up.  

[Passing Strange]

As much as I don't want to see another dinner table shouting match, I get why Lindsay is still pissed at Carl. She's right; he spent last summer gaslighting and manipulating, now he's trying to make himself the victim. The sad thing is that he could easily accomplish that by just owning his bad behavior and apologizing for it. He won't, though, because neither he nor Lindsay are over each other and might not be until they're both out of the public eye.

With West, it was like he borrowed Carl's playbook. He spent last summer love bombing Ciara until she slept with him, then he dumped her. And told the NY Times about it. Now he's the victim because he's being all civil and everything while complaining about Ciara, who's not giving him any space in her head. She's done with him, but he and Jesse can't seem to respect that. Now the playbook has now passed to Jesse, who is really working it with Lexi, like the schmuck he's turned out to be.

There's got to be more to Imrul than his playboy activity. I wish the show had chosen to focus on his other experiences instead, but here we are. Carl, West, and Jesse might learn something from Imrul, though. He's getting way more feminine attention than the three of them combined, and he does it simply by being honest about being DTF. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[b2H]

20 hours ago, snarts said:

STFU Lindsey. If she was truly so happy with her new man, pregnancy, etc. she wouldn't be so pressed & bothered about Carl. The bitterness isn't cute. Take note, Paige. 

Of course Jessie hit it & quit it. He's friends with West...

I am seriously tired of Lindsey, especially if her entire storyline is going to be nothing more than I'm pregnant and ecstatic but I'm going to tear Carl a new one in imaginative ways every time the camera is on me.  She's made her point.  Now go make a legitimate storyline.

[SFoster21]

12 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

As much as I don't want to see another dinner table shouting match, I get why Lindsay is still pissed at Carl. She's right; he spent last summer gaslighting and manipulating, now he's trying to make himself the victim. The sad thing is that he could easily accomplish that by just owning his bad behavior and apologizing for it. He won't, though, because neither he nor Lindsay are over each other and might not be until they're both out of the public eye.

With West, it was like he borrowed Carl's playbook. He spent last summer love bombing Ciara until she slept with him, then he dumped her. And told the NY Times about it. Now he's the victim because he's being all civil and everything while complaining about Ciara, who's not giving him any space in her head. She's done with him, but he and Jesse can't seem to respect that. Now the playbook has now passed to Jesse, who is really working it with Lexi, like the schmuck he's turned out to be.

There's got to be more to Imrul than his playboy activity. I wish the show had chosen to focus on his other experiences instead, but here we are. Carl, West, and Jesse might learn something from Imrul, though. He's getting way more feminine attention than the three of them combined, and he does it simply by being honest about being DTF. 🤷🏻‍♀️

He is also gorgeous, while they are goofy looking.

[bosawks]

Carl and Lindsay ended messily and they are handling the post breakup season 1 messily.

I.Am.Here.For.It!

Those two seldom disappoint.  

Just one thing, Carl, please don't invest a ton of your own money on this venture.

[snarts]

14 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

As much as I don't want to see another dinner table shouting match, I get why Lindsay is still pissed at Carl. She's right; he spent last summer gaslighting and manipulating, now he's trying to make himself the victim.

They both had a hand in the gaslighting & manipulation. Carl ending it before they walked down the aisle was the smartest thing for BOTH of them.

If anything, he's trying to be the bigger person, inviting her to his event, actually congratulating her on the pregnancy, playing along with the stupid gender reveal, etc. Meanwhile, Lindsey's busy using her new minion Gabby to gather info so she can stage a fight berating him over cheating that never happened (Lil posted receipts that show she & Carl started talking in October, two months after the split).

Lindsey's not acting like the happy, secure person in love & pregnant with another's man child as she claims. Her actions read vindictive & desperate for attention/screentime. 

[Passing Strange]

I agree that Carl and Lindsay shouldn't have gotten married. The problem is that Carl saw that early on, and instead of ending it then and there, he spent the summer whining about Lindsay to anyone who would support him. We've seen him try to get women to take responsibility for ending the relationship before, e.g., Lauren Wirkus and Lindsay herself in their first relationship. When it didn't work this time, he summoned the cameras after filming was over so we could all see how sorrowful he was. He's following up with this redemption tour, which is smart, but doesn't negate his past bad behavior. Lindsay's still pissed at him for that behavior and I'm OK with her not being a good sport about it. 

Carl said he invested over $100,000 of his own money in Soft Bar. He is now trying to crowdfund $1,441,000. His ideas are interesting, and while I hope he succeeds, this doesn't seem like the time to launch a new business. My $250 is staying right here in my wallet because I might need eggs soon.

[Vivigirl10]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:54 AM, snarts said:

Lindsey's not acting like the happy, secure person in love & pregnant with another's man child as she claims. Her actions read vindictive & desperate for attention/screentime. 

Thank you.  Lindsey doesn't need to attack Carl for "cheating".  She needs to ridicule him for following up his relationship with her with a kooky, awkward, dare I say, unattractive, "yoga" teacher?  Here she is, secure in the next step of her life and he's dinking around with this woman child?  Doesn't really look like there's a chance of a long-term relationship there for good old Carl.  Lindsey should harangue him for that, not for the DM's.  If she and Gabby are going to sit around and look like gossipy harpies, I'd choose that angle. 

I feel bad for Lexie and I don't think she was just acting jealous.  She brought up the flirting and statements made to Ciara as the bigger hurt. I do think there is a sliver of truth to the fact that Jessie is just not used to having to be mindful of someone else and was just acting impulsively without thinking about her first.

In addition to needing a lip liner intervention, how come Lexie doesn't do something about her terrible hair?  As a model, I would think it would be almost a requirement that she get extensions to beef it up.  Her sister and even her Mom have such beautiful hair. 

West is so gross looking to me and his appearance coupled with his kind of "aww shucks" demeanor is soooo dangerous.  He's a stealth fuck boy so you don't see him coming until it's too late.   

When Imrul was by the pool handing out high fives and half naked hugs I would have backed away and been like.....all good!  Dude is soooo skeevy.  Ick.