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The View: Week of 3/24/2025


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Monday, March 24 – Juju Chang (co-anchor, “Nightline”)

Tuesday, March 25 – Bill Murray and Naomi Watts (actors, “The Friend”); Tamron Hall (author, “Harlem Honey: The Adventures of a Curious Kid,” and host, “Tamron Hall”)

Wednesday, March 26 – Natalie Dormer (actor, “Audrey’s Children”)

Thursday, March 27 – Nathan Lane and Matt Bomer (actors, “Mid-Century Modern”); LaTanya Richardson Jackson (Broadway’s “Purpose”)

Friday, March 28 – Seth Rogen, Kathryn Hahn, Ike Barinholtz and Chase Sui Wonders (actors, “The Studio”)

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Whoopi: Oh, well, whoever started it, it's not right. *

I couldn't help thinking that she didn't appreciate Sarah pointing out that the end of the "protection" program for Haitians, etc. was initiated during the Biden administration, because making it all about Trump makes this administration sound worse.  One thing that bugs me about some of the ladies is that they don't give the whole context for events; they aren't much better than some of the media they criticize. I know, the argument is that they aren't journalists and shouldn't be held to those standards, but some people will take what they say at face value without doing any other research. 

* I'm not sure that having been given a deadline to make other arrangements when the program ends means that this is "not right". Should temporary shelter necessarily become permanent?

Nightline is 45! I remember when it started during the Iranian hostage crisis. It was a nightly update of the situation, I think called "America Held Hostage" - we all assumed it would end eventually, and the "regular" late night programming would return, but it turned into Nightline and here we are 45 years later. 

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6 hours ago, KittyQ said:

I couldn't help thinking that she didn't appreciate Sarah pointing out that the end of the "protection" program for Haitians, etc. was initiated during the Biden administration, because making it all about Trump makes this administration sound worse. 

I don't think they really need to try to make Trump look worse.  He's managing that all on his own. 

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8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I don't think they really need to try to make Trump look worse.  He's managing that all on his own. 

So true. They don't need to try to make him sound worse, but they do it anyway. If they would be a little more objective and give context and background, it would be more effective (to me, at least) than constantly painting him as the worst president ever. I'm old enough to remember when other presidents were also considered to be "the worst ever", and the country is still here, no thanks to some of those guys.

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I am so sick of Alyssa laughing at everything!!!!

I think it's her way of

1. Disdaining anything from Dems, including potential candidates, or when Dems  point out lies and hypocrisy of Repubs; as well as.. 

2. Trying to make light of serious mistakes made by the current administration, therefore oopsies!!! No big deal.

Not funny. 

 

I am so sick of Alyssa laughing at everything!!!!

I think it's her way of

1. Disdaining anything from Dems, including potential candidates, or when Dems  point out lies and hypocrisy of Repubs; as well as.. 

2. Trying to make light of serious mistakes made by the current administration, therefore oopsies!!! No big deal.

Not funny. 

I don't believe anything she says, cuz her mannerisms and her later backtracking belies her true nature.

 

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40 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I want to see that movie for the dog, but damn it, it's one of those independent movies that never get a wide release and only showtimes are a billion miles away from where you live! 😭😭😭

I read the book.  I think it was Whoopi who recommended it one year for their Ladies Get Lit before they go on summer vacation.

Spoiler

It made me sad so I won't be watching the movie. 

 

OMG - the party that has been caught mishandling sensitive information is downplaying it! That never happens. Whoopi - I don't recall the exact details, so who in the Democratic party severely condemned Hillary Clinton's lax handing of emails? 

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

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50 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

OMG - the party that has been caught mishandling sensitive information is downplaying it! That never happens. Whoopi - I don't recall the exact details, so who in the Democratic party severely condemned Hillary Clinton's lax handing of emails? 

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

Let's just ignore the whataboutism flying around & remember who it was that said Hillary should be locked up for the emails? 

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3 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

Allegedly it was national security advisor Mike Waltz. Oops. Even more incompetent and reckless is the fact they were using an unsecured platform in order to avoid record retention laws. How long have they been doing this and how do we know it hasn’t already been hacked?

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7 hours ago, Shrek said:

Let's just ignore the whataboutism flying around & remember who it was that said Hillary should be locked up for the emails? 

How is Whoopi bringing up Hillary's emails and the reactions to that issue not whataboutism?  If we're seriously ignoring whataboutism, then it shouldn't be mentioned when discussing this latest screwup by current administration. 

It is extremely tempting to revisit past offenses when talking about current events, especially since everything is so divided, but resisting that temptation can help to stop the cycle of pointing fingers. 

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It’s not whataboutism. It’s pointing out the utter hypocrisy of shouting from the rooftops, dragging her in front of committees for 9? hours, and the chants of “lock her up!” for something that didn’t exist. When it comes to a serious real security breech that endangered members of the military? Oh well, that was just a mistake. Oops. Let’s blame the reporter (who had more sense to be discreet than the amateurs in govt). This wasn’t the first time the group chat was used. Who knows how much damage has been done by their loose lips?  One person on the chat was in Moscow at the time of this blunder, using an unsecured phone and an unsecured platform. Idiots. 

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11 hours ago, KittyQ said:

How is Whoopi bringing up Hillary's emails and the reactions to that issue not whataboutism?  If we're seriously ignoring whataboutism, then it shouldn't be mentioned when discussing this latest screwup by current administration. 

 

Where did I say it was or wasn't whataboutism??????????? Please stop saying I said something when I obviously didn't say what you're saying I said, again.

3 hours ago, Haleth said:

It’s pointing out the utter hypocrisy

It's always the hypocrisy.  As someone said above Trump said Hillary Clinton should be in jail.  OK then he should hold those in his own administration to that belief. If they are being this careless what else have they done that puts our country and our troops at risk?

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Group Chat-gate: Have none of those people heard the saying (I think this became well known during Watergate) "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up"? They are making everything worse* by attempting to wave it away or even trying to blame the reporter for being in the chat. I spent years working with people through group chats (in our case, chat software created by our company) and people don't just stumble into a properly set up chat meeting by accident. They have to be invited, or have their join request accepted by the chat group "owner".  We always took care about this, and we weren't discussing anything nearly as significant. 

So, Joy, Abbott isn't entitled to his "outrage" about comments that were pretty clearly meant to mock him because he didn't speak out about Trump's comment years ago? (Maybe he did, maybe he didn't - who knows for sure at this point?) This, however, was about him so of course he can reply. Jasmine Crockett also should be more responsible than to make these comments or at least acknowledge that this was a mean thing to say and not say it again. 

* By "worse", I don't just mean that they are keeping this scandal alive with these dopey excuses, but that it contributes to the public distrust of government and government figures by showing that they can't be trusted with sensitive information and being honest about it.

26 minutes ago, Dimity said:

No it shouldn't.  But here we are.  And there is one person to blame for this and that person is not Jasmine Crockett and I am glad the ladies, for the most part, didn't go there.

For sure, DT is crass, rude, obnoxious, and if he were a "regular" person, you'd be embarrassed to invite him anywhere, but the real shame is that his example has degraded the norms for how mature people should behave and express themselves, particularly in public. My point is that Crockett is responsible for her own comments, as an adult in public service. She doesn't have to lower her standards to his level.

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I’m disappointed in Jasmine Crockett. That was an unkind thing to say. I’m ok with her previous jabs at people who came after her but mocking someone in a wheelchair?  Not good. (I’m surprised Sunny was unaware that Abbott is disabled.).

Yeah, no one can just join a private group chat. There’s a screen shot of Goldberg’s acceptance into the group by Waltz. It’s pretty clear he mixed up Goldberg’s phone number with someone else, so this continued effort to blame the reporter for joining is ludicrous. They should be thanking him for his discretion until after the operation was complete. 

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