TheGreenKnight January 10 Share January 10 (edited) Double post. Edited January 10 by TheGreenKnight Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8550997
TheGreenKnight January 10 Share January 10 10 hours ago, Gemma Violet said: Sunny's got other things on her mind these days. Not from what I could see. On 1/8/2025 at 3:20 PM, Shrek said: But in the end I feel that the people who will benefit the most from it are the very people who need to be fact checked on an hourly basis and in some cases every time they open their mouths or write absolutely anything on any social media platform. Fact-checking is nice in theory, but only when the ones doing it have good intent. Unfortunately, there are sometimes those who live and breathe Alternative Facts who like to believe what they're doing is fact-checking, but really they're just ego-tripping, polluting the discourse, and curbing disagreement with their views. Putting their thumbs on the scale in other words. It's like putting the fox in charge of the hen house. Thankfully, that didn't seem to be the case with Meta back when they actually were fact-checkinng Covid misinformation, slurs, hate speech, and so on. The ladies (except Alyssa, naturally) were right that this was simply Zuckerburg bowing to power. I was glad that Joy read off that Meta had donated however much money to Trump's inauguration, that made the point even more obvious. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551000
atomic January 10 Share January 10 1 hour ago, TheGreenKnight said: Not from what I could see. She was all smiles sitting courtside at the Knicks game with her husband the other night. As much as some would like to see her miserable, she appears to be living her best life. :) 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551056
bluegirl147 January 10 Share January 10 1 hour ago, TheGreenKnight said: The ladies (except Alyssa, naturally) were right that this was simply Zuckerburg bowing to power. According to a NY Post article (take it with a grain of salt) Zuckerberg changed the fact checking to community notes because he made a post about his knee surgery with a pic and it was flagged because it was a medical post and they were flagging all medical posts. So his post didn't get a lot of views and he was salty about that. That seems believable to me. What is it with such thin skinned billionaires? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551071
Shrek January 10 Share January 10 9 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said: According to a NY Post article (take it with a grain of salt) Zuckerberg changed the fact checking to community notes because he made a post about his knee surgery with a pic and it was flagged because it was a medical post and they were flagging all medical posts. So his post didn't get a lot of views and he was salty about that. That seems believable to me. What is it with such thin skinned billionaires? Of course that was why. 🙄 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551074
bluegirl147 January 10 Share January 10 Just now, Shrek said: Of course that was why. 🙄 Let's not forget FB exists because Zuck got dissed by a girl. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551076
KittyQ January 10 Share January 10 5 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said: Not from what I could see. Perhaps she has been enjoined from discussing it. It also has to be strange to be "on the other side of the table", so to speak, although her legal background might be helpful to her husband. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551231
KittyQ January 10 Share January 10 People pleasing - I don't see where encouraging children to share automatically results in a "people pleasing" personality. When they are really young, the only way most children will share is being encouraged to do it by adults. The very young child can be generally self-centered because they haven't learned that they aren't the center of the universe yet. Being the center of your parents' lives can give you the impression that everyone else should give you what you want. Like most things, though, going to extremes, forcing kids to give up their own things all the time with no reciprocity (as in Sunny's story about Paloma's teacher) is the wrong way to develop empathy and sharing. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if those kids end up being more selfish and less likely to give others what they want in reaction to this. Humans are complex though, so what affects one child one way could be completely different for another child. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551241
Gemma Violet January 10 Share January 10 6 hours ago, atomic said: As much as some would like to see her miserable, she appears to be living her best life. I'm sure no one here wants to see her miserable, but being a former federal prosecutor who has presumably worked on RICO cases, even if she thinks the feds have no case against Manny, it's got to be weighing heavily on her mind. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551318
atomic January 10 Share January 10 1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said: I'm sure no one here wants to see her miserable, but being a former federal prosecutor who has presumably worked on RICO cases, even if she thinks the feds have no case against Manny, it's got to be weighing heavily on her mind. Well, "the feds" quite literally do not have a case against him. Because this is a civil suit brought forth by an insurance company under federal court jurisdiction, not a federal investigation where he has been charged with any sort of crime. Sort of proves my point when that's the conclusion you jumped to rather than reading the various articles you posted. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551385
Gemma Violet January 10 Share January 10 (edited) 47 minutes ago, atomic said: Sort of proves my point when that's the conclusion you jumped to rather than reading the various articles you posted. Not "various." I posted only two articles. I posted the second article only because some readers were understandably uncomfortable with the credibility of the first source. The second source, "www.law.com," is a credible source. Their headline was Insurance Company Sues Over 180 Health Care Providers for Fraud Under RICO. BTW, I did read both articles. You're right though--my mistake--I forgot it's not the federal government bringing charges--it's a private insurance company suing for fraud under the RICO act. As I said in my previous post in the Sunny thread, Manny is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I hope you're right that Sunny is "living her best life," and not worrying about this. She is a stronger person than I would be. Edited January 10 by Gemma Violet 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551420
Haleth January 10 Share January 10 Oooh, I admit to misreading or misunderstanding the article I read, thinking it was a criminal charge, not civil. My bad. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551446
Mollywolly555 January 11 Share January 11 5 hours ago, KittyQ said: It also has to be strange to be "on the other side of the table", so to speak, although her legal background might be helpful to her husband. Plus, how will she and Manny explain it to their perfect children? I respect Sunnys's education and professional achievements. However, she does grate when speaking about her children and her crazy-high expectations for them. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551472
Dimity January 11 Share January 11 3 hours ago, Gemma Violet said: As I said in my previous post in the Sunny thread, Manny is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I hope you're right that Sunny is "living her best life," and not worrying about this. She is a stronger person than I would be. Without wishing to exaggerate doctors get sued, a lot. Sometimes it's justified, a lot of the time it's not. In reading a bit about this case it's interesting that the company doing the suing is on the verge of bankruptcy. This sounds to me like a clutching at straws move. Maybe not, of course. At any rate I think anyone married to a doctor is going to be aware that lawsuits can be part of the job. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8551829
Shrek January 11 Share January 11 As I've said many times I don't like her or her holier than thou attitude but anyone can sue anyone & it doesn't mean anything wrong was done to anyone. I said on the other thread that I was holding off any judgement for now & I may have been correct in this case. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552015
Gemma Violet January 11 Share January 11 3 hours ago, Shrek said: As I've said many times I don't like her or her holier than thou attitude but anyone can sue anyone & it doesn't mean anything wrong was done to anyone. I agree. That's why I said in this thread and the other thread that Manny is presumed innocent until proven guilty. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552172
Back Atcha January 12 Share January 12 On 1/9/2025 at 2:20 AM, shok said: What annoyed me most was her smug condescending look after she talked over everyone. "Smug" above is referring to Alyssa. I think she's learning to fight fire with fire. No one on the panel has developed a MORE condescending "face" and attitude than Sunny. Either she has told the camera people when to expect "that look" during her performance--OR they're a bit tired of her shenanigans. Either way, they hold on her for several seconds while she poses. Three of "the looks": I'm jealous and damned proud of it. Manny is well aware. I'm a helicopter mom and my perfect children are very successful. I'm a lawyer and better than everyone at this table. P.S. Whoopi is more ticked at Alyssa these days, so she's laying off Sunny. I'm assuming it's temporary. And...all ladies should know better: thou shalt NOT interrupt Whoopi who will always have the last word. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552474
TheGreenKnight January 12 Share January 12 Odd that a discussion where there was mostly tension between Alyssa and Joy / Whoopi is made out to be about...Sunny? I guess because some think making all things about Sunny is an easy way to "clear" Alyssa of anything awful she says or does on the show? It happens so often that that's why I thought it was smart of Sunny to sit back and let Joy and Whoopi do the arguing with Alyssa, but I forgot about how common reality distortion is these days. 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552549
TheGreenKnight January 12 Share January 12 27 minutes ago, Shrek said: Uh? We're talking about Manny being part of a group being sued Uh, the post above mine was discussing the argument the other day, not the Manny thing.... Once again, I have no idea what you're talking about. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552589
atomic January 12 Share January 12 2 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said: Odd that a discussion where there was mostly tension between Alyssa and Joy / Whoopi is made out to be about...Sunny? I guess because some think making all things about Sunny is an easy way to "clear" Alyssa of anything awful she says or does on the show? It happens so often that that's why I thought it was smart of Sunny to sit back and let Joy and Whoopi do the arguing with Alyssa, but I forgot about how common reality distortion is these days. I think people who did not get to watch the show since it was pre-empted have gotten the impression that Sunny bullied Alyssa from all these posts. When the reality is she just sat there through Alyssa's bitchy comments about Sunny "getting to talk for 20 minutes." But as you say, it's really just a built-in excuse to absolve Alyssa of anything, no matter what the reality of the situation is. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552623
TheGreenKnight January 12 Share January 12 ^ Yes, I forgot the show had been pre-empted. That's probably the main reason. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552627
Mollywolly555 January 12 Share January 12 Yes, I saw when Sunny literally sat back and was quiet while Alyssa and Joy and then Whoopi were talking about fact checking. None of them were listening to each other, least of all Whoopi who is always right. They just say their prepared piece or joke (Joy). Alyssa had some crazy word salad at the end that was insensible. Her giddy happiness these days is evident of future nonsense when facts officially (acc to Mark Z) won't matter. Goddess help us all. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8552723
Back Atcha January 13 Share January 13 13 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said: It happens so often that that's why I thought it was smart of Sunny to sit back and let Joy and Whoopi do the arguing with Alyssa, I'll try to find the episode to see if Sunny was merely sitting back ... without an obvious attitude (pro OR con). 11 hours ago, atomic said: When the reality is she just sat there through Alyssa's bitchy comments about Sunny "getting to talk for 20 minutes." Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151316-the-view-week-of-162025/page/2/#findComment-8553441
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