S01.E05: F Is For Fuck-Up

[Snazzy Daisy]

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After a kill goes wrong, Dexter is grounded by Harry.

Deb deepens her relationship with Gio, and bonds with her brother on the anniversary of their mothers death.

Air Date: Jan 03, 2025

 

[Chaos Theory]

Poor Deb.   Harry fell in love with Dexter before Deb was even born.  Heck From episode 5 it looks like he was almost ready to leave Doris for Dexter’s mom (whose name keeps escaping me) before he found out wife was pregnant with Deb.    Once Doris died Deb never really had a chance at any semblance of normalcy.    Harry and Dexter had a bond and Deb was forever left out in the cold without ever really knowing why.

i wonder what Harry was thinking when he woke up seran rapped to the bed with Dexter standing over him.   That moment was so many kinds of surreal.  Their relationship is all kinds of fucked up.  

I did like the moment with Dexter at Doris’s grave.  Dexter saying what he needed to.   He was right Doris likely did look at him like he could be good.  I don’t think Dexter really had that again until Rita but that whole bowl of worms is still a bunch of years away.

Edited Friday at 10:17 PM by Chaos Theory

[HerkyJerky]

Since Gio’s dad has a yacht, are we to assume that his dad is a member of the cartel? More than likely somebody Dexter has to kill?🙄

[Snazzy Daisy]

Dexter experiencing some awakenings in this episode.

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“I learned something about myself that morning. Death didn’t feed my dark passenger, killing did. And I was still…hungry.”

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“I could never be good but maybe I could still do good.”

Geez, Dexter. You don’t have to strap Harry onto a kill table to prove your point. That’s so f*cked up! 🙄

It’s nice to know that M99 idea originates from Tanya. The lack of security at the race track facility is not believable. Seeing Dexter getting cornered by a horse in a stable reminds me of Colby’s death in Yellowstone. 😢

Honestly, 5 episodes in, Tanya Martin and Captain Aaron Spencer haven’t been given much to do to make an impact. What’s the point of casting Sarah Michelle Gellar and Patrick Dempsey? Is one of them going to be the big bad this season??! 🤔

[Chaos Theory]

1 hour ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Honestly, 5 episodes in, Tanya Martin and Captain Aaron Spencer haven’t been given much to do to make an impact. What’s the point of casting Sarah Michelle Gellar and Patrick Dempsey? Is one of them going to be the big bad this season??! 🤔

I am guessing (and this is just my guess) is the SMG will be the first innocent person to fall at the alter of Dexter's dark passenger.   An early version of Doakes.  Someone who starts to suspect something isn't quite right about Dexter but because of her own failings or something else happens no one believes her.     

As for Patrick Dempsey I am thinking he is more a LaGuerta problem.   This also looks like the rise of LaGuerta as well as the rise of Dexter.  LaGuerta is an opportunist so she will use whatever opportunity to get ahead and we do know by season one of the OG LaGuerta is Captain so ruining the bro code Captain Aaron Spencer might be her first step to getting there.  

That is if the Original Sin is a single season story.   To me it only really makes sense if it is one or two seasons since we know Harry doesn't live long past Dexter's first kill.    Harry falls in love with his source but isn't there to save her because his wife is giving birth to Deb which would be added pathos to Harry on why he can't look at his daughter.  

I don't think Patrick Dempsey or SMG are going to play major major rolls in the story.   Too many serial killers in a single place would get weird.  But having one of them be the first person to scare Dexter would be an interesting story.  

[Affogato]

I read and watch a lot of Science Fiction. Something bothers me Bout the Dark Passenger concept. In this show we really are getting the idea that they are parasites. Dexter, he is a good person with an evil brain worm? He is not being a sociopath or psychopath, he shows empathy and so on. So is this what people think is happening? 

[catherinejane]

He tends to come across as not having much empathy -sort of copying others to fit in but not understanding others much?

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, catherinejane said:

He tends to come across as not having much empathy -sort of copying others to fit in but not understanding others much?

I think he is sociopathic. He has learned to fake some emotions. 

[ajsnaves]

On 1/3/2025 at 4:17 PM, Snazzy Daisy said:

Honestly, 5 episodes in, Tanya Martin and Captain Aaron Spencer haven’t been given much to do to make an impact. What’s the point of casting Sarah Michelle Gellar and Patrick Dempsey? Is one of them going to be the big bad this season??! 

I don’t trust Patrick Dempsey at all. I think he’s gonna end up on the table eventually.  SMG, I’m seeing as a victim. Maybe to a loan shark or bookie, due to her gambling. 
 

Harry absolutely should lose his job. His credibility is shot. There is no coming back from this. He will never be able to testify again.  Every defense attorney in Miami is pulling that transcript, and preparing the Open Records requests. Retire now, and become a PI. 

[Chicago Redshirt]

1 hour ago, ajsnaves said:

I don’t trust Patrick Dempsey at all. I think he’s gonna end up on the table eventually.  SMG, I’m seeing as a victim. Maybe to a loan shark or bookie, due to her gambling. 
 

Harry absolutely should lose his job. His credibility is shot. There is no coming back from this. He will never be able to testify again.  Every defense attorney in Miami is pulling that transcript, and preparing the Open Records requests. Retire now, and become a PI. 

Within the world of Dexter, he apparently is able to continue as a homicide detective, albeit only on low-level "NHI" homicides with LaGuerta for the moment. Presumably he does make some sort of comeback for the time he has left.

I don't know if it truly destroys his credibility that he did not note the weak alibi. In real life, I'm fairly sure that detectives have done far worse and gotten away with it even after it was exposed. I don't even know that in real life the failure to note the alibi would result in the immediate dismissal of charges. While it is technically a violation of BadGuy's rights under a case called Brady v. Maryland to not disclose that BadGuy'sGirlfriend claimed they were together all that night as that is exculpatory evidence, it is not as though BadGuy was (presumably) ignorant of that claim or was prejudiced from asserting that alibi. In this case, I think Harry's explanation (at the time girlfriend was clearly high and literally did not know what day it was) would hold some sway. It raises the question why he didn't do the logical thing and say "Reporting Detective interviewed BadGuy'sGirlfriend who claimed to have been with BadGuy all that night. But when asked what day the interview was, Girlfriend stated it was currently Thursday when it was actually Tuesday. Girlfriend further clearly appeared to be under the influence of narcotics. Reporting Detective therefore concluded against the backdrop of fingerprints tying BadGuy to the scene that there was probable cause to believe BadGuy was the killer."

Genre conventions say that when you cast big stars like Patrick Dempsey and SMG, they need to be something significant. I could see the possibility that Patrick Dempsey is himself a serial killer who copycatted other killer's handiwork. In such a scenario, he was hoping that people wouldn't bother actually investigating the NHIs, and he was put off that Laguerta was paying attention to them because she might actually catch him. So he assigns Harry to the case, knowing that Harry owes him and will give him head's ups on Laguerta and possibly tank that investigation if called on. Or in a worst case scenario, he can use Harry's lapse to undermine the legitimacy of those findings.

It could also be that SMG is the Big Bad. But I haven't seen any specifics pointing to her. I think it is more likely that she discovers something that gets Patrick Dempsey to kill her, Dex finds out and kills Patrick Dempsey. 

On 1/3/2025 at 3:53 PM, HerkyJerky said:

Since Gio’s dad has a yacht, are we to assume that his dad is a member of the cartel? More than likely somebody Dexter has to kill?🙄

I hate the notion that Latino+Rich=drug money, but that is the most likely possibility that Gio's dad is connected in that way. I am wondering if there is going to be another season of this show. I feel like if there isn't, we should be further along in Dexter's development and the overall plot. 

I could also see Gio being a jerk and breaking Deb's heart and Dex investigating to find out he's up to no good and thus killable.

[Affogato]

19 hours ago, catherinejane said:

He tends to come across as not having much empathy -sort of copying others to fit in but not understanding others much?

That is cognitive empathy. Saying you are sorry because it is appropriate and you know that, not feeling it. Still he seems generally upset by the child’s death and generally fond of some people. 
 

still bothered by the dark passenger thing. It implies we have a normal person with a predatory presence.

[Affogato]

18 hours ago, AstridM said:

I think he is sociopathic. He has learned to fake some emotions. 

Remembering I also felt the same way about the books. No one has sold this for me completely. He seems caught between being a normal, if traumatized, guy on a mission and a standard serial killer. It gives him some necessary relatability but pulls me out of the narrative. Just me, I guess. 

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