S06.E10: I Love You. I Love You

[lightninggirl]

Olivia is going to get sucked into the first guy who lovebombs her. I think she's savvy enough to see through a lot more bullshit than Ethan, but she's probably spent a total of 18 waking hours with Brendan and she's already gotten a tattoo with this guy? Holy shit. She's talking about this "deep level of trust" and saying "I love life with you," and they've not even been in the same city for more than a couple of weekends (and we all know what goes down when LDRs get together in person after time apart - you're not busy taking out the trash, suffering through IBS or bouts of food poisoning, paying bills, coming home after a 12-hour shift ... you're ENJOYING the other person). All I can think about is that she was subjected to the hell that was being married to Ethan so this guy is literally god's gift right now. He's definitely not a prize looks-wise or personality-wise IMO, but she seems happy. That's all that really matters as she's overcome a lot in the past few years. Hopefully his mother isn't as much as a waste of air as Kim Plath is.

I'm kind of cracking up that Barry got the post-divorce glow-up (as much as Barry can glow, let's be real here) and Kim looks like a wet turd that's been left on the side of the road. I just want to take a tissue to the sides of her mouth because she NEVER fails to fuck up her lipstick application. It's astounding how consistent she is with that.

I'm torn on Veronica - I can't tell if she's on the spectrum or if she's just with Micah for the money. She's supposedly a luxury real estate agent in South Florida, so she cannot be as awkward IRL as she is on the show. If she's making $ selling luxury properties then would she need a TLC (or is it Bravo? I can't remember) payout? As mentioned earlier, she jumped right in siding right up to Barry in bashing Olivia and calling her a narc after 26 seconds of interaction - why would she even need to do that? I can't quite figure her out. Micah doesn't seem to be interested in doing much more than manual labor building fences, which doesn't jibe with someone who has a closet with luxury items and a job selling luxury real estate - and we all know Kim fucked up his chances of getting into law or medical school with her piss-poor attempt at homeschooling her children. They don't even seem to be into each other - it's more antagonistic and poking at each other than romantic, kind of like brother-sister but they share a bed? Weird.

Edited September 19 by lightninggirl

[JayDub1987]

1 hour ago, lightninggirl said:

They don't even seem to be into each other - it's more antagonistic and poking at each other than romantic, kind of like brother-sister but they share a bed? Weird.

They interact a lot like Moriah and Ethan have before, and I’m not sure who that worries me more for. 

[Chalby]

On 9/18/2024 at 11:05 AM, Notabug said:

Considering how often Olivia brags about her overseas travels and lives in very expensive cities like LA while traveling back and forth to Minnesota and elsewhere multiple times a year; I think it is pretty clear that she is quite materialistic.

If she was truly as materialistic as you claim, she would not date a man who's as unpretentious as he is. I have no issues with her wanting the finer things in life so long as she doesn't judge others for not having 'things'. If Olivia wants to finance her relationship, good on her!

[surfgirl]

55 minutes ago, Chalby said:

If she was truly as materialistic as you claim, she would not date a man who's as unpretentious as he is. I have no issues with her wanting the finer things in life so long as she doesn't judge others for not having 'things'. If Olivia wants to finance her relationship, good on her!

Here here @Chalby! 🙌  After putting up with the Plaths, Olivia deserves a beautiful life wherever that may be. Good for her!

[Chalby]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:55 PM, lightninggirl said:

Kim fucked up his chances of getting into law or medical school with her piss-poor attempt at homeschooling her children.

 

I agree with your first impression of Veronica, and I'm glad you pointed out the Plath's educational void. Who knows what careers they could have tried for if they had proper, focused school opportunities? Given what we've been shown on TV, I haven't seen any of them be able to write a proper sentence.

[Notabug]

43 minutes ago, Chalby said:

I agree with your first impression of Veronica, and I'm glad you pointed out the Plath's educational void. Who knows what careers they could have tried for if they had proper, focused school opportunities? Given what we've been shown on TV, I haven't seen any of them be able to write a proper sentence.

You've gotta figure that if the eldest son has told us he is barely literate and has trouble reading because his mother (and father) didn't care if he did real schoolwork; the ones who came after are probably in worse shape.

[Back Atcha]

On 9/19/2024 at 6:54 AM, Gharlane said:

Here's Brendan 's business page. Is Arlington really considered to be DC?

I'm in the Phoenix area and visited D.C. once--for that JonStewart/Stephen Colbert outdoor show years ago. A favorite cousin (also visiting) gave up his beautiful ARLINGTON "guest quarters" for my adult son and me. As far as we could see, DC is Arlington and Arlington is DC.    ALSO...on Brendan's business page...the photo of Brendan and two females.  Those smiles appear to be from three siblings.  What do YOU think? 

[Back Atcha]

On 9/19/2024 at 3:03 PM, Chalby said:

  On 9/18/2024 at 11:05 AM, Notabug said:

Considering how often Olivia brags about her overseas travels and lives in very expensive cities like LA while traveling back and forth to Minnesota and elsewhere multiple times a year; I think it is pretty clear that she is quite materialistic.

I'm with CHALBY on this one.  For me, it's not "pretty clear" that she's "quite materialistic. I don't consider that she's "bragging" about her overseas travel.  She's on a television show AND has her own photography business--mostly weddings.  Why wouldn't any of us take advantage of free TELEVISION advertising--and casually mention that we've been hired for weddings that require "overseas travels"?  

As for "Very Expensive Cities"  ... Huge cities like Los Angeles have rents from affordable to astronomical. And hostels are all over L.A.. She's also "followed" by the cameras, so Production has something to say (location and finances) about where she travels, lives, visits, etc.  I get the feeling they like her.

[surfgirl]

Speaking as an east coaster, Arlington is a suburb of DC, it is not 'DC'. They are very different places. DC is an urban city and Arlington is very much a suburban environment. For all we know he lives with his parents, and if he did I wouldn't care.

I assume the girls on Brendan's website are employees, whether they are his sisters or not, no idea but it makes no difference to me.

[Back Atcha]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:55 PM, lightninggirl said:

I'm kind of cracking up that Barry got the post-divorce glow-up (as much as Barry can glow, let's be real here) and Kim looks like a wet turd that's been left on the side of the road. I just want to take a tissue to the sides of her mouth because she NEVER fails to fuck up her lipstick application. It's astounding how consistent she is with that.

I really wanted to start with that sentence above (see BOLDING), but your description of Kim just before it deserves to be shown again (and again*).  Kim's lipstick application has bothered me since Day One. It's truly difficult for me to give credit to her for her self-assurance. There are so many areas that seem to need improvement, but she seems extremely happy with every ounce of herself. Apparently she found a second man who agrees.  (Her hair is very nice.)

I've wondered if Moriah's pathetic lipstick auditions are a subliminal attempt to Kim. There have been times when Moriah is on my screen that I can't see anything but LIPS!  See the lips but can barely hear her tiny little-girl voice. Poor thang has looked trashy since at least Season Two (maybe Season One).  She looks so young, fresh-faced and vulnerable in the most recent episodes.  Pleae! Can some talented soul put together a LOOK for her that will work for daily life and that she can handle?

                 Can't wait to see that music video...especially the choreography.

      *wet turd that's been left on the side of the road.

[Back Atcha]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:55 PM, lightninggirl said:

and we all know Kim fucked up his chances of getting into law or medical school with her piss-poor attempt at homeschooling her children.

Don't forget his possible career(s) as a professional athlete.   (We're discussing Micah)

[surfgirl]

3 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Don't forget his possible career(s) as a professional athlete.   (We're discussing Micah)

I'm not convinced Micah has that much talent in anything. He's a pretty boy, if you like that surfer metrosexual type, but beyond that I'm not convinced he has any athletic prowess to become professional in anything, including fence building. 😉 

Edited September 21 by surfgirl

[Back Atcha]

Awww...not my opinion; I was referring to one of his "recent realizations."   He has probably never heard, "Practice makes perfect," or any number of useful proverbs.

[salvame]

I ffd through Olivia. They should either give her her own show, or cancel Plathville and just produce the Olivia show. She married Ethan and immediately set out to change him in worldly ways, but not in relationship ways. Now she is all miss superiority, but basically fell for the first guy who gave her a nod. 

[surfgirl]

7 hours ago, salvame said:

I ffd through Olivia. They should either give her her own show, or cancel Plathville and just produce the Olivia show. She married Ethan and immediately set out to change him in worldly ways, but not in relationship ways. Now she is all miss superiority, but basically fell for the first guy who gave her a nod. 

Have you watched the entire series?  I ask because that is not what happened.

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Have you watched the entire series?  I ask because that is not what happened.

I have, and I think its a MMV situation.  I am not all that impressed with Olivia's 'journey' either.  The Plaths are an awful family, it seems that Olivia came from a different awful family; but that doesn't make Olivia all that wonderful in my eyes.  By comparison, she's a bit more mainstream, but she is very full of herself, impressed with her minimal achievements such as leaving a toxic marriage and family situation; but, on her own, I don't see that she's all that special.  And, I agree, she met Ethan knowing that they would marry and now, she's met a new guy, he lives thousands of miles away from her; yet she seems ready to throw herself all in with him as though pfaffing around in Sedona on TLC's dime for a few days is the foundation for lasting love. Two relationships, but, both times, she is in hyperdrive trying to nail him down.  I wonder how long it will be until she's got a list of Brandon's flaws for him to resolve ASAP as well as a reason to distance herself, and him, from his family.  In her own way, she is almost as intolerant as her former in-laws.  If someone doesn't agree with her, they are wrong and must change their ways.  She's very good at enumerating all the ways in which other people have failed; not so much at seeing her own issues.

Edited September 25 by Notabug

[Chalby]

On 9/20/2024 at 4:53 PM, Back Atcha said:

Don't forget his possible career(s) as a professional athlete.   (We're discussing Micah)

That's actually an important observation. Micah and Ethan are competitive in physical activities, BUT they've never experienced a childhood reality that sport day, meets,  track & field etc teach kids. That's when you can see how you measure up against others, but in a competitive sports way.

For all their confidence, I wonder if they've ever competed against anyone who is not related?

[Chalby]

On 9/25/2024 at 5:38 AM, Notabug said:

  If someone doesn't agree with her, they are wrong and must change their ways.  She's very good at enumerating all the ways in which other people have failed; not so much at seeing her own issues.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I like how Olivia has managed her way through a secular world, and I appreciate her non judgemental attitude (and willingness to look at the whys).

It's a big step to go from a sheltered life of total judgement, shunning, and lack of independence to where she presently is. (At the same time, I am curious how she'll parent when that time comes.)

All in all, she has only set personal boundaries, and stuck by them. I can't fault her for that.

[Back Atcha]

On 9/25/2024 at 5:38 AM, Notabug said:

Two relationships, but, both times, she is in hyperdrive trying to nail him down.

I don't know that she had nearly enough knowledge, experience, or even a plan to "nail him down" where Ethan was involved. The parents, their religious "group," and the kids' extremely limited experience and their held the hammers leading to Marriage #1.  They "held hands," so they were required to marry.

1 minute ago, Chalby said:

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I like how Olivia has managed her way through a secular world, and I appreciate her non judgemental attitude (and willingness to look at the whys).

It's a big step to go from a sheltered life of total judgement, shunning, and lack of independence to where she presently is. (At the same time, I am curious how she'll parent when that time comes.)

All in all, she has only set personal boundaries, and stuck by them. I can't fault her for that.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Chalby.  I admire Olivia and I think she's "good TV."  Looks like the producers think so too.   (I cringe when people on television talk about their "journeys," but I like the way Olivia is traveling right now.)

I don't think the current boyfriend is interested in marriage in the near future.

[Back Atcha]

Too bad, Chalby, that my comments were merged.  Makes it appear that you "agree to disagree" with ME.   Not the case.

[Notabug]

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I don't think the current boyfriend is interested in marriage in the near future

I don't think so either, but Olivia is certainly wanting to put things in hyperdrive by moving cross country to be with him.  I have a feeling she wants him to ask her to move in with him to facilitate that.  I don't think he's there yet and may never get there either.

I think that Olivia, as much as she talks about breaking away from her upbringing, is not really ready to give up the idea that dating/courtship is a very rapid process that ends in firm commitment in short order.  She's in her mid 20's, I presume her boyfriend is, too.  I don't think he sees the need to be paired up and yoked together; but, in Olivia's narrow world growing up; it was essentially mandatory.

[b2H]

I must’ve missed something.  The guy seems to say he has some closet skeletons that need to be dealt with.  Am I mistaken?

[surfgirl]

3 hours ago, b2H said:

I must’ve missed something.  The guy seems to say he has some closet skeletons that need to be dealt with.  Am I mistaken?

Yes you're mistaken, I never heard that. Did anyone else?

[Gharlane]

That rings a bell for some reason, but TBH, I don't care enough to search.🤷‍♂️

[Dibs]

On 9/24/2024 at 7:46 PM, salvame said:

I ffd through Olivia. They should either give her her own show, or cancel Plathville and just produce the Olivia show. She married Ethan and immediately set out to change him in worldly ways, but not in relationship ways. Now she is all miss superiority, but basically fell for the first guy who gave her a nod. 

Exactly; she's always thought she was all that and a bag of chips when in fact she's laughably naive and unrealistic.  I personally think the BF is a hired actor (or someone she found online that TLC offered to pay).

Agree about "The Olivia Show," which I think she's been Jonesin' for for some time now.  She certainly (inexplicably) seems to have the fan base to support it!

[heatherchandler]

On 10/5/2024 at 10:31 AM, Dibs said:

I personally think the BF is a hired actor (or someone she found online that TLC offered to pay).

If they had hired an actor I’d think they could find someone better looking and not a complete idiot.

Edited October 7 by heatherchandler