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I really don’t get why they’re doing Ross/Red Hulk.

”But it was in the comics…”

So now we’re supposed to believe Feige and the MCU a shit about comic book accuracy after they’ve butchered Steve’s story, woobified Zemo, turned Sharon into the Power Broker, killed off Natasha, turned Peggy into a fucking Mary Sue, made Hank Pym a good guy, and so many other changes that I can’t even keep track of? This was their line in the sand? Ughhhhhhh.

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Well, as one of the biggest MCU apologist out there (even defending the likes of Eternals and Quantumania), I didn't think this was horrible as some were suggesting and I still found things I liked ab

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First of all, this is not the trainwreck that some of the early reviews and internet complainers have acted like it is. I know that I'm a blatant MCU apologist who has found the most recent batch of M

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Sharon got shafted because the Russos decided to go with Natasha for the lead female in TWS because ScarJo was the bigger name, and subsequently siphoned all Sharon’s personality from the comics to Na

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Captain America: Brave New World Offered Up Hulking New Footage at Comic-Con
By Cheryl Eddy    July 27, 2024 
https://gizmodo.com/sdcc-2024-captain-america-brave-new-world-footage-description-2000477420 

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Introduced by Kevin Feige to open the proceedings in Hall H tonight, the footage began

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at the White House. President Ross (Harrison Ford) is hosting an event about the celestial mass that appeared on Earth. He explains that when that happened, many different people rushed to try and claim it. It was a whole mess. But, thanks to Captain America, they finally have found something of value. A new element: adamantium. Yes, that adamantium.

In a new scene that seems to come after, we see Sam (Anthony Mackie) and Ross speaking in the Oval Office. He wants Cap to rebuild the Avengers but, Cap points out, Ross’ Sokovia Accords previously destroyed the Avengers. So, he asks, what happens when they disagree? We don’t get an answer.

A bunch of action scenes, including a big part of the White House being destroyed, happen and we see Sam in a normal suit strutting into the Situation Room. He says he has to talk to the President. Everyone leaves, except one woman: Ruth (Shira Haas). Ross says she stays no matter what. Apparently, Sam is worried that Ross’s inner circle has been compromised and Ross tells Ruth to put it to bed. Sam says that’s bullshit. Ross says it’s politics.

A person in a hood kills a bunch of people in a room. Captain America and Falcon (Danny Ramirez) are flying around together. We see Cap throw the shield from the air with the wings spread out. The phrase “The Future Favors the Brave” appears on screen.

Ross is giving a speech outside the White House. Shots are fired, he ducks down and starts to Hulk out. Out emerges Red Hulk, with Harrison Ford’s face via motion capture.

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Hear From the Cast of Thunderbolts*, The Fantastic Four: First Steps, and more!
Marvel Entertainment   Aug 21, 2024

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Get ready to hear about the future of the MCU! We spoke with a whole lineup of incredible cast members from upcoming Marvel Studios projects like Captain America: Brave New World, The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Thunderbolts* to get the inside scoop on what fans can expect when the movies hit theaters! 

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Lucasfilm, 20th Century Studios, and Marvel Studios Share Trailers, Sneak Peeks, and More at D23 Brazil — A Disney Experience
November 9, 2024
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  • Captain America: Brave New World stars Anthony Mackie, who makes his big-screen debut as Captain America, and Danny Ramirez, who plays the Falcon, came onstage to talk about the film, which releases in theaters on February 14, 2025, and also share a clip and brand-new trailer with the audience.


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1 | Are you pleased to see The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’s Isaiah Bradley (played by Carl Lumbly) featured so prominently in the new Captain America: Brave New World trailer? Or does that actually have you worrying that the character shouldn’t buy any green bananas? And did the Thunderbolts* trailer make you guffaw when Ghost referred to Falcon and Winter Soldier’s John Walker as “dime store Captain America”? (Because he 100% was.) 

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Captain America: Carl Lumbly Discusses DC/Marvel, James Gunn & More
Carl Lumbly (Captain America: Brave New World) spoke with us about MCU's Isaiah Bradley, DC's Martin Manhunter, James Gunn, and much more.
by Tom Chang   Jan 18, 2025
https://bleedingcool.com/tv/captain-america-carl-lumbly-discusses-dc-marvel-james-gunn-more/ 

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Bleeding Cool: Having worked both in Marvel and DC across live-action and voiceovers, what would you say are the biggest differences between working in both worlds?
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As far as playing, the difference between Martian Manhunter and Isaiah [Bradley] I say it is, literally and figuratively, Isaiah is so much more grounded in the blood he has witnessed that was shed, grounded in the dirt in which he slept on missions, grounded in the love of a wife, that he married young, and had to leave, and never saw again in a daughter he did not get the opportunity to meet. All those wildly fraught developmental phases that we go through as human beings, he had got that cut off. I get to see what his face looks like after having gone through all of that.

J'onn J'onzz was always the same. He always looked like the same Martian, and while we didn't have other Martians to compare him to [laughs]. You imagine that was the standard look for a Martian that was 12-1500 years old. I can't remember, and age is just a number. Isaiah's been lived in, and like some of my favorite shoes, it's not shiny or bright anymore, but really comfortable. You're used to…playing Isaiah in a lived reality allows me to access more of myself.

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CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD - Anthony Mackie Reveals How He Learned He'd Be The MCU's New Captain America
By Josh Wilding   Jan 20, 2025
https://comicbookmovie.com/captain-america/captain-america-brave-new-world/captain-america-brave-new-world---anthony-mackie-reveals-how-he-learned-hed-be-the-mcus-new-captain-america-a215717#gs.juqmv4 

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During a recent interview to promote tickets for the movie going on sale, actor Anthony Mackie reflected on learning he'd be the MCU's Star Spangled Avenger. 

"It was a bunch of us at his house - [Chris Evans] had this crazy house - sitting there watching a game, shooting the sh*t. So he goes, 'Have you read the new script?' I said, 'Nah.' And he was like 'Tou don't know?' And you know, being black, I’m like 'I'mma die, damn. They're getting rid of me, man. I don't even cause no trouble. I stand in the back, like I don't bother nobody.'"

"So he's like 'C'mon, c'mon.' In his house, he had like a trap door that went to a basement that was like the man cave of all man caves. He has all of his Marvel stuff laid out, his new script and all this stuff. And I’m like 'Oh, this is your prep room.'"

"He gets the new script. He goes to like the last 10 pages, and he goes 'Read it!' So me thinking they killed me off I get to the part and it's like, you know, I’m reading the scene between us, and it goes 'He hands him the shield.' I’m like, 'So why did you give me the shield? He’s like, 'Because you’re f**king Captain America.' We hug, we jump up and down. It was hilarious."


The 'Captain America: Brave New World' Cast on Seeing Red Hulk For The First Time
Fandango   Jan 17, 2025

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CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Ticket Pre-Sales Ahead Of THE MARVELS But Behind ANT-MAN 3
By Mark Cassidy   Jan 20, 2025
https://comicbookmovie.com/captain-america/captain-america-brave-new-world/captain-america-brave-new-world-ticket-pre-sales-ahead-of-the-marvels-but-behind-ant-man-3-a215720#gs.juws05 

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Tickets for Marvel Studios' Captain America: Brave New World went on sale on Friday, and we have an update on how pre-sales have been doing over the weekend.

According to box office analyst Luiz Fernando, ticket sales are 1.4x better than The Marvels and Warner Bros.' recent Joker sequel, and are about on par with Eternals - but "nowhere near" Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, which opened on the same weekend in 2023.

Considering Ant-Man 3 underperformed and The Marvels and Folie à Deux were noted flops, this doesn't seem like the best start. That said, we are only talking about a few days of pre-sales here, and the movie is still on track for a solid enough $86 million - $95 million debut over the 3-day Valentine's Day/President's Day weekend.

Anticipation for Sam Wilson's (Anthony Mackie) big-screen debut as the Sentinel of Liberty does seem to have been somewhat muted, which can probably be attributed to a number of factors, including mixed-negative test-screening reports and underwhelming plot leak details.

Plus, we can't ignore the fact that - for whatever reason - a lot of fans simply haven't embraced Wilson taking up the Captain America mantle from Steve Rogers (Chris Evans).

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Captain America: Brave New World | Nellis Air Force Base
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 5, 2025


How Sam Wilson Became Captain America
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 5, 2025

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Captain America: Brave New World director Julius Onah joins the podcast as he shares details about Sam Wilson’s journey as Captain America and what to expect in the upcoming movie. ....

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‘Captain America: Brave New World’ First Reactions After Premiere: “A Thrill Ride From Start to Finish”
By Aaron Couch   Feb 11, 2025
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/captain-america-brave-new-world-first-reactions-1236132984/ 

‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Draws Mixed First Reactions, Some Praising as an ‘Absolute Blast’ and Others Saying It’s ‘Slightly Empty’
By Zack Sharf, Jack Dunn   Feb 11, 2025
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/captain-america-brave-new-world-first-reactions-anthony-mackie-1236303624/

First reactions to Captain America: Brave New World compare the Marvel movie to Winter Soldier, but point out some major issues
By Fay Watson   Feb 12, 2024
https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/marvel-movies/first-reactions-to-captain-america-brave-new-world-compare-the-marvel-movie-to-winter-soldier-but-point-out-some-major-issues/ 

'Captain America: Brave New World' First Reactions Reveal if MCU Sequel Is a Return To Form or Another Dud
By Archie Fenn   Feb 12, 2025
https://movieweb.com/captain-america-brave-new-world-first-reactions-divisive-mcu-entry/ 

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CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD: Everything We Learned From The First Reactions - Possible SPOILERS
By Josh Wilding   Feb 12, 2025
https://comicbookmovie.com/captain-america/captain-america-brave-new-world/captain-america-brave-new-world-everything-we-learned-from-the-first-reactions---possible-spoilers-a216163#gs.kbxmrl 

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Review from Entertainment Weekly confirms exactly what I feared when they recast Harrison Ford as Ross. 

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From the first moments, it’s clear this is a different Thaddeus Ross. Not in the obvious literal sense, but by virtue of the fact that the opening minutes of the film reintroduce us to the notion of his daughter, Betty (Liv Tyler), and his deep desire to reconnect with her and right his wrongs. What a world we live in that in a movie full of super soldiers, Celestial Islands, and gamma rays, the most unbelievable part is a U.S. president with empathy, a sense of responsibility for his actions, and a capacity for change.

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Thaddeus Ross is not a supervillain; he’s not even a particularly morally bankrupt politician. He’s just a man trying to do his best for his daughter and the country he loves.

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BRUCE BANNER WOULD LIKE A WORD.

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Jeremy Jahns gave it a "good time if you're drunk" which one the lower end of his range. Said there were some pacing issues, the CGI wasn't great and he thought the hand to hand action scenes were bad. He said it felt like a Frakenmovie where they pulled from a bunch of different MCU movies to make this.

@Spartan Girl unfortunately, it seems your fears were well founded, he says Ross is the most layered character in the movie and plays a morally grey character where you don't know the answer (good/bad) yet. It was a spoiler free review, so it's possible that is answered in the movie. 

I don't think Ford can play Ross as the total d!ck Hurt was able to portray. 

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The consensus I’m hearing is that Sam’s Captain America deserves a better storyline than getting Hulk’s sloppy seconds. To which I agree.

And according to what I heard 

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Liv Tyler only shows up at the end and doesn’t do anything at all. Continuing the long MCU trend of pandering by adding new female characters without doing right by the ones they have. Ugh.

 

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After all of the pre lack of buzz I watched the first action scene thinking that The Falcon and The Winter Soldier started with a badass action scene too. But then unlike the TV show the movie didn't fall apart. Maybe they leaned too far into Wakandan vibranium tech instead of super soldier serum to explain how Captain America survived a hulk. But Steve Rogers also got a healthy assist from superhero against the laws of physics.

I would put it in the watch in theatres and under my old ranking system I would buy the DVD for the home library tier. Well above Ant-Man Quantumania maybe above Black Widow

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Best Red Carpet Moments! | Marvel Studios' Captain America: Brave New World
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 13, 2025

Captain America: Brave New World Director Julius Onah on Introducing Sam Wilson as Captain America
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 13, 2025

Carl Lumbly Playing Isaiah Bradley Is a “Privilege and an Honor”
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 13, 2025

Behind the Scenes of Captain America: Brave New World
Marvel Entertainment   Feb 13, 2025

Captain America: Brave New World Main Title (From "Captain America: Brave New World")
MarvelMusicVEVO   Feb 14, 2025

 

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1 minute ago, Fool to cry said:

Haven't seen it yet but I saw a leaked video of the post credit scene and thought Dammit, they should have 

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had the Leader say "Doom is coming!" THAT would have been a little more exciting.

 

To on the nose perhaps, but a great line. I can head canon that Dr. Strange's activities are known to others besides Wong and Agent Rambeau's  S.W.O.R.D. status got out

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Well, as one of the biggest MCU apologist out there (even defending the likes of Eternals and Quantumania), I didn't think this was horrible as some were suggesting and I still found things I liked about it.  That said, this really might be the closest to The Dark World in that it was kind of just dull on a lot of levels and almost felt like everyone was going through the motions.  The look, the action, the dialogue and overall writing, the acting, etc.: nothing was horrid but it just had low energy all around.  I really wonder how much of damage the reshoots did because it just felt like it was never on solid footing.

The biggest issue was that it really did feel like it wanted to in the vein of The Winter Solider with all of the political intrigue, the hero at odds with the US government, and even a little mind control.  But despite the potential of it all, I just felt like it didn't deliver like it should have.  And then there was all of the stuff with President Ross.  It really did feel like they reconed the character where we were suppose to find him to be a decent man who did questionable things that he believed was for the good of the world, instead of just a raging dick who made it his mission to thwart the Avengers at almost every turn.  A lot of that probably is because Harrison Ford is just at the level of fame now where not many will buy him as a straight-up asshole like they did with William Hurt.  But the character just felt half-baked and it was hard to get invested in it, which is a problem since he was such a major factor here.

Also, definitely just nitpicking, but I found it hard to believe that someone like Ross would ever be elected President.  Ignoring any actual political views, Presidents these days usually need some form of charisma or ability to play to the crowd (for better or worse), and I just don't see Ross pulling that off on any potential campaign trail.  Realistically, he strikes me more as someone who would have been selected as a VP pick for a more charismatic presidential candidate.  Kind of wish they did that and he became President after the original one resigned or died or something to that nature.  Again, I know I'm thinking way too hard about that aspect but it kind of bugged me.

Definitely think Anthony Mackie has been overly-criticized at times for not being Chris Evans, and I still think Sam has potential to be a great Captain America.  Mackie did his best here, but the writing definitely let him down.  Did enjoy his easygoing chemistry with Danny Ramirez/Joaquin.

I swear, I love Giancarlo Esposito, but will Hollywood ever let him play a character that isn't the same one that it feels like he's been playing since Breaking Bad?

Great seeing Isaiah Bradley again.  Carl Lumbly is a treasure.

The Ruth Bat-Seraph character left almost no impression and seemed wasted here.

Tim Blake Nelson was good as always, but Samuel Sterns' new look didn't quite work for me.

Wish we had more Betty/Liv Tyler.

I don't care if it is fanservice to end all fanservice: loved that they did bring in Bucky for at least one scene.  Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan's interplay and chemistry can't be beat.  Almost we see more of the duo in future team-up films.

The visual effects weren't the best but I feel like they've been over hated as well.  I've see so much worse: even in other MCU films.

Do kind of respect that both Eternals and The Incredible Hulk were major factors in all of this.  The franchise certainly isn't shy about involving their outcast films lately.

So, yeah, disappointing and will probably fall short at the box office but, well, at least it ain't Secret Invasion a.k.a. probably the only MCU product I can safely say I didn't like/almost hated.

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3 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

A lot of that probably is because Harrison Ford is just at the level of fame now where not many will buy him as a straight-up asshole like they did with William Hurt.  But the character just felt half-baked and it was hard to get invested in it, which is a problem since he was such a major factor here.

Ford's age has a lot to do with it, I think. There's a moment after Ross tells Sam that he was dying, and that's why he initially worked with Sterns, and I realized I saw Thaddeus as he is Now. Not the warhawk who sicced the military on Bruce Banner. Not the general who threw a phone book's worth of laws at the Avengers and said, Sign or else. Just a frail old man who was trying to stay alive long enough so that maybe, possibly his daughter would forgive him for his arrogance and stupidity. Yeah, he victimized Sterns just as much as he did Bruce,  but Sterns turned it around on him by victimizing him right back. I admit it, it got me. Just a little bit.

I would like to see more of Ruth at some point, though it's annoying how totally they sidestepped her backstory. But if she's a former Widow, she could always show up again, especially now that her former boss is in the Raft.

All in all, it's not anywhere near as bad as some folks say it is. Would definitely see again while it's still in theaters.

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1 hour ago, thuganomics85 said:

The Ruth Bat-Seraph character left almost no impression and seemed wasted here.

Again, maybe the MCU writers should focus developing the female characters they already have instead of chucking in more new ones.

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Ford's age has a lot to do with it, I think. There's a moment after Ross tells Sam that he was dying, and that's why he initially worked with Sterns, and I realized I saw Thaddeus as he is Now. Not the warhawk who sicced the military on Bruce Banner. Not the general who threw a phone book's worth of laws at the Avengers and said, Sign or else. Just a frail old man who was trying to stay alive long enough so that maybe, possibly his daughter would forgive him for his arrogance and stupidity.

Might have worked for me if we’d actually gotten a scene of him in Endgame actually apologizing to Bruce and the Avengers at Tony’s funeral. Anything at all to justify his presence there instead of just a “oh look, that asshole” cameo.

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15 minutes ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

I would like to see more of Ruth at some point, though it's annoying how totally they sidestepped her backstory. But if she's a former Widow, she could always show up again, especially now that her former boss is in the Raft.

Her role as well as the resurgent military of Japan as the adversary would be victims of real world politics. Everybody knows that's China's role but will put Anthony Mackie in an Ant-Man mask and make Japan the antagonist to try to get in their theatres. 

Meanwhile Ruth would be a character identified by nerds but then Israel has campus demonstrations against it. So we get Israeli born to get that in but Red Room trained, so the nerds will know Black Widow before a flash of Red Room martial arts style. Only the nerds also saw Black Widow and probably Agent Carter and know the Red Room meant they were under mind control, which a Bucky cameo also reminds us of so why is it hard to buy Isaih was  brainwashed as she and the Winter Soldier were?

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5 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Again, maybe the MCU writers should focus developing the female characters they already have instead of chucking in more new ones.

Well, we've got Thunderbolts* coming up, and it looks promising as far as that goes. But they have to start somewhere with new characters if they're going to develop them at all. If Sam does go on to rebuild the Avengers, there have to be others besides Torres.
 

6 hours ago, Raja said:

 Bucky cameo

By the way, did I hear correctly?

Barnes is running for office? He said something to Sam about a fundraiser, and then when he left Ruth mentioned that he might be a congressman soon. That's.....unexpected.



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Recaps of Bucky cameo and post-credit scene...

Here’s What Captain America: Brave New World Revealed About Bucky’s Post-Falcon and Winter Soldier Life
By Matt Webb Mitovich   February 14, 2025
https://tvline.com/recaps/bucky-barnes-congressman-captain-america-brave-new-world-scene-explained-1235408331/ 

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.... Sebastian Stan, though, only makes a brief cameo as Bucky.
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About two-thirds of the way through the MCU film, Sam is at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, concerned about the surgery being done on a wounded ally, when his solitude is interrupted — by Bucky, rocking both a lot of scruff but also a suit. With Sam once again second-guessing his worthiness to wield Steve Rogers’ mighty shield, Bucky delivered a much-needed pep talk, saying that whereas Steve’s Cap gave people something to “believe in,” Sam’s star-spangled man gives people something to “aspire to.”

Sam welcomes the words of wisdom, then quips/asks if Bucky’s “speechwriters” helped with that. After Bucky leaves, President Ross’ (Harrison Ford) security advisor, Ruth (Shitsel’s Shira Haas), refers to Bucky Barnes as a “future congressman” — which does jibe with Bucky wearing a U.S. Congress pin in the trailer for the next and final Phase 5 movie, Thunderbolts* (due out May 2).

How does a Soviet asset-turned-congressman wind up on Valentina Allegra de Fontaine’s (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) ragtag “Thunderbolts” team? We shall see. Though we have seen U.S. congressmen have stranger side hustles, equally sordid pasts.
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The penultimate MCU Phase 5 film has just one post-credits scene, in which Sam pays a visit to Tim Blake Nelson’s Samuel Sterns aka The Leader at The Raft. Sam gloats about winning their bet/thwarting Sterns’ grand plan, but the locked-up villain is not triggered.

Rather, the super-brainy Sterns informs Sam, “I’ve seen the probabilities, seen them plain as day…. All you heroes protecting this world. You think you’re the only ones, you think this is the only world?

“We’ll see what happens when you have to protect this place from the others,” he warned, clearly planting a seed for the Secret Wars storyline that will drive Phase 6 of the MCU films.

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15 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Might have worked for me if we’d actually gotten a scene of him in Endgame actually apologizing to Bruce and the Avengers at Tony’s funeral. Anything at all to justify his presence there instead of just a “oh look, that asshole” cameo.

Please, anyone who hates Ross would have called him a lying bastard and wanted Bruce to drop kick him over the horizon for pretending to be sorry. 

Also, it was Tony's funeral.  Pepper's the one whose opinion really mattered - if she was OK with any guests everyone else could just keep their mouth shut and work things out afterwards.   

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5 hours ago, baldryanr said:

Please, anyone who hates Ross would have called him a lying bastard and wanted Bruce to drop kick him over the horizon for pretending to be sorry

Believe me, I would have loved that, but my point is that he never should have been there in the first place. He could have been swapped with any other MCU character and it wouldn’t have made a difference.

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Recaps of Bucky cameo and post-credit scene...

Here’s What Captain America: Brave New World Revealed About Bucky’s Post-Falcon and Winter Soldier Life
By Matt Webb Mitovich   February 14, 2025
https://tvline.com/recaps/bucky-barnes-congressman-captain-america-brave-new-world-scene-explained-1235408331/ 

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.... Sebastian Stan, though, only makes a brief cameo as Bucky.
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About two-thirds of the way through the MCU film, Sam is at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, concerned about the surgery being done on a wounded ally, when his solitude is interrupted — by Bucky, rocking both a lot of scruff but also a suit. With Sam once again second-guessing his worthiness to wield Steve Rogers’ mighty shield, Bucky delivered a much-needed pep talk, saying that whereas Steve’s Cap gave people something to “believe in,” Sam’s star-spangled man gives people something to “aspire to.”

Sam welcomes the words of wisdom, then quips/asks if Bucky’s “speechwriters” helped with that. After Bucky leaves, President Ross’ (Harrison Ford) security advisor, Ruth (Shitsel’s Shira Haas), refers to Bucky Barnes as a “future congressman” — which does jibe with Bucky wearing a U.S. Congress pin in the trailer for the next and final Phase 5 movie, Thunderbolts* (due out May 2).

How does a Soviet asset-turned-congressman wind up on Valentina Allegra de Fontaine’s (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) ragtag “Thunderbolts” team? We shall see. Though we have seen U.S. congressmen have stranger side hustles, equally sordid pasts.
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The penultimate MCU Phase 5 film has just one post-credits scene, in which Sam pays a visit to Tim Blake Nelson’s Samuel Sterns aka The Leader at The Raft. Sam gloats about winning their bet/thwarting Sterns’ grand plan, but the locked-up villain is not triggered.

Rather, the super-brainy Sterns informs Sam, “I’ve seen the probabilities, seen them plain as day…. All you heroes protecting this world. You think you’re the only ones, you think this is the only world?

“We’ll see what happens when you have to protect this place from the others,” he warned, clearly planting a seed for the Secret Wars storyline that will drive Phase 6 of the MCU films.

Talk about failing upwards. For anyone who thought Ross seemed unlikely to be a successful politician.....

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