Best and Worst of Psych

[amensisterfriend]

Forgot to mention, if I had to pick only one episode to live with for the rest of my life (which would be a CRIME!!) I think I'd go for Last Night Gus.

 

You guys have inspired me to rewatch S6 episodes for only the first or second time, and I have to say that I'm really, really loving that season so much more than I'd recalled. It's got a few clunkers, but also some of the most rewatchable series' highs. Factor in my growing, albeit grudging fondness for Lassiter/Marloww, the large amount of Woody and  the fact that we get Last Night Gus, Heeere's Lassie and This Episode Sucks, and I'm thinking I should move S6 higher in my rankings :) 

[DittyDotDot]

The season rankings were really hard for me. They all seemed pretty even when I sat down to think about it, I kept shifting them around. S6 is weird though; as a complete season, it's kinda all over the place, IMO, but some of my favorite episodes also lie in that season.

[DittyDotDot]

Gawd, I'm so annoyed with myself for ever starting watching this show...I started over from S1, currently in mid-S2. I forgot how much I loved If You're So Smart Then Why Are you Dead. I love the little geniuses rolling their eyes at Shawn and I love all his pop culture references falling flat with them. But, I especially love Lassie and all his rules--638 to be precise. Favorite line of the episode: "Don't quote cornpone-country-bumpkin sayings to your commanding officer." HA!

 

ETA: Oh yeah, "you need to be uppercase mad."  ;)

Edited March 15, 2015 by DittyDotDot

[GHScorpiosRule]

I've been binge-watching and just started Season Five.

 

I have to admit, that Seasons 1 and 2 are equally the best, then 3; There are a handful of episodes in 4 I like, but it's Season 5 that my uber love for the show starts to wan. One, because I thought it was a HUGE mistake to make Henry a consultant, and also have Shawn start to screw up in his "visions."

 

Sorry, but that's the premise of the show--that Shawn is not a psychic, but faking being one, because of how Henry drilled into his head how to become a good investigator.  Unlike a lot of folks over at TWoP, I didn't hate Shawn; I don't love Lassiter, though he had a couple of moments when I did like him.

 

For me? The WHOLE reason I watched this show and am re-watching is because of Shawn and Gus' friendship. As far as I'm concerned, they are the OTP.

 

I will add this regarding Season 4's Bollywood Homicide: for a show that a good number of East-Indian writers, producers, they could have and should have come up with a much better dance than the lame-ass one they actually showed on stage.  Otherwise, it's one of my favorite episodes; Especially the scene where Gus and Shawn brag nothing is too spicy for them, and Shawn whimpers "Even the water is SPICY" to Gus.

 

I do have a question though--my memory's all fuzzy--Was the identity of Yin ever revealed? I'm thinking yes, but I can't remember, and it was that picture of Yang and that little boy that helped Shawn figure it out. I think. Aaaand...I hated Abigail.

Edited March 25, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule

[amensisterfriend]

Aaaand...I hated Abigail.

 

Me too. I thought it was such unbelievable audacity to march over to Shawn's father's house behind his back and start blabbing to Henry about Shawn and then smugly demanding they fix their relationship and all talk about their conflicts over dinner or whatever. I could maybe understand doing something like that if Shawn and Abigail had been dating for years and she had found that Shawn's estrangement from Henry was affecting him negatively, but 1) Shawn and Henry really had a pretty decent relationship by that point; Abigail was just being nosy and pushy and wanted to meet him for her own reasons and 2) she and Shawn had just started dating! I'm probably making too big a deal of that since I'm a more private person than most, but it just really bugged me.

 

Beyond that and maybe one or two other examples of her being kind of superior and presumptuous, though, she was just so cold, flat and dull. I'm not sure if that was in part deliberate so that we'd still root for Shawn and Juliet (who I never especially wanted to see date anyway!) or if the writing and acting just combined to make for a more 'meh' character than they were hoping to give us.

 

I have to admit, that Seasons 1 and 2 are equally the best,

 

I'm so schizo on S1 :) On the one hand, it's kind of clunky at points and features a really wildly over-the-top Shawn (the constant flailing around during his "visions" and just generally seeming even more immature than usual!) But it's also got this unbelievably infectious energy and fun that sucks me in every time. And Juliet accidentally inviting Lassiter's former perps to his party will never not amuse me :) 

[GHScorpiosRule]

Me too. I thought it was such unbelievable audacity to march over to Shawn's father's house behind his back and start blabbing to Henry about Shawn and then smugly demanding they fix their relationship and all talk about their conflicts over dinner or whatever. I could maybe understand doing something like that if Shawn and Abigail had been dating for years and she had found that Shawn's estrangement from Henry was affecting him negatively, but 1) Shawn and Henry really had a pretty decent relationship by that point; Abigail was just being nosy and pushy and wanted to meet him for her own reasons and 2) she and Shawn had just started dating! I'm probably making too big a deal of that since I'm a more private person than most, but it just really bugged me.

AMEN, Sistah! I HATED her for that the most. And I'm pretty sure Shawn told her not to push. So what does she do? She goes to Henry.

 

Beyond that and maybe one or two other examples of her being kind of superior and presumptuous, though, she was just so cold, flat and dull.

She was totally acting all superior in Bollywood Homicide when she told Raj's grandmother, that her cooking was "authentic." That really peeved me to no end. I was like, whaat? You're seriously telling an East-Indian woman (played wonderfully by Madhur Jaffrey, who is a well known--has several cooking books published), that her cooking is authentic? Was she expecting it to be not-authentic? Just because you worked in Bombay, err, sorry, Mumbai, doesn't make you an EXPERT on all things authentic, you stupid igit.

 

 

 

I'm so schizo on S1 :) On the one hand, it's kind of clunky at points and features a really wildly over-the-top Shawn (the constant flailing around during his "visions" and just generally seeming even more immature than usual!) But it's also got this unbelievably infectious energy and fun that sucks me in every time. And Juliet accidentally inviting Lassiter's former perps to his party will never not amuse me :)

Ah, yes. I'm not fond of him flailing about, but "Spelling Bee" with Shawn saying "banana" and the stupid girl asking him to use it in a definition, as if she doesn't know what a banana is, just cracks me up.

Agree, on Juliet thinking all of the people Lassiter put in jail being in his notebook, meant that they were his friends will never not be funny, nor the way Shawn and Gus slowly back away, before running for their lives.

I just love the whole "Dude!" "Dude!"

"Stop playing, Shawn!"

"You know that's right" and especially when they're arguing, but we don't know what they're saying. I always laugh.

James Roday had chemistry with everyfuckingbody. I say this with confidence, because I've gotten up to Season 5 in one week. And he's got such a great smile.

Edited March 25, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule

[DittyDotDot]

"Suck it!" Hee!

 

I have to admit, that Seasons 1 and 2 are equally the best, then 3; There are a handful of episodes in 4 I like, but it's Season 5 that my uber love for the show starts to wan. One, because I thought it was a HUGE mistake to make Henry a consultant, and also have Shawn start to screw up in his "visions."

 

Oh my God did I not like Henry being a consultant. I realize they had difficulty getting Henry involved in some of the cases and probably did this to make it easier, but to me it made it more nonsensical. It started out Henry was supposed to manage the consultants, but then he's managing the detectives (which I kinda thought was part of Lassiter's duties as Head Detective). I was so happy when Henry quit.

 

Which leads me to the flashbacks to Shawn's childhood, did the show stop doing them because they lost the one kid actor or did they just decide they'd probably mined that gag enough? Some of them I really liked and others I thought were pretty clunky, but overall I did like them as a staple and it was glaring to me when they went away.

[GHScorpiosRule]

"Suck it!" Hee!

 

Oh yeah!!!! Another gem is Whaaaat? or "Wait for iiiiiiiiiit..."

 

Those two are just so adorable together.

 

 

 

Oh my God did I not like Henry being a consultant. I realize they had difficulty getting Henry involved in some of the cases and probably did this to make it easier, but to me it made it more nonsensical. It started out Henry was supposed to manage the consultants, but then he's managing the detectives (which I kinda thought was part of Lassiter's duties as Head Detective). I was so happy when Henry quit.

 

 

It was ridiculous. And Henry kept nixing on letting Shawn and Gus work on every case that came up, because Henry was worried Shawn would get hurt; but moreso because I think it was a way for Henry to control Shawn since he knew the whole psychic thing was a fake.

 

And it was very head scratching for me, the reasons why Vick offered this position to Henry, because Shawn and Gus were NOT employees of the Santa Barbara police department; but were called in when they had a case. Or, yeah, when Shawn would just waltz in and tell them he had a vision. And they got paid for their help. She also got meaner as the seasons went by. I didn't like that.

 

 

 

Which leads me to the flashbacks to Shawn's childhood, did the show stop doing them because they lost the one kid actor or did they just decide they'd probably mined that gag enough? Some of them I really liked and others I thought were pretty clunky, but overall I did like them as a staple and it was glaring to me when they went away.

 

 

Liam James was GREAT as young Shawn. I think they stopped with the flashbacks, because during one hiatus, I can't remember which, he had a growth spurt and no longer looked like a kid who was just 12.  You could hear his voice had changed in Season Five.  I think, in the last season, they hired someone new, but it just wasn't the same. For me, Liam James was the ONLY young Shawn.

Edited March 26, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule

[DittyDotDot]

Oh yeah!!!! Another gem is Whaaaat? or "Wait for iiiiiiiiiit..."

 

Those two are just so adorable together.

 

Oh my yes!  They struck gold with those two!

 

Liam James was GREAT as young Shawn. I think they stopped with the flashbacks, because during one hiatus, I can't remember which, he had a growth spurt and no longer looked like a kid who was just 12.  You could hear his voice had changed in Season Five.  I think, in the last season, they hired someone new, but it just wasn't the same. For me, Liam James was the ONLY young Shawn.

 

Yeah, Liam James was the best one. They tried to pass of a couple others in the first season, but Liam James was the best. They did try to pass off another kid for one episode in S5, I think, and I was like, that kid doesn't even have the same color hair! I assumed the kid got another steady gig or something, but your theory makes more sense. I think they'd probably run the gambit on the idea by then anyway, but some of them I really enjoyed. The Daredevils one stands out in my mind as does the one with Uncle Jack.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Yeah, Liam James was the best one. They tried to pass of a couple others in the first season, but Liam James was the best. They did try to pass off another kid for one episode in S5, I think, and I was like, that kid doesn't even have the same color hair! I assumed the kid got another steady gig or something, but your theory makes more sense. I think they'd probably run the gambit on the idea by then anyway, but some of them I really enjoyed. The Daredevils one stands out in my mind as does the one with Uncle Jack.

 

I think they only had one other before Liam. Of course, I could be wrong, since I'm binge-watching.  And *sniff*, episode five of the fifth season, about Gus and Shawn in Drag (racing) was Liam's last appearance.  He looked his actual age, which was 13, I think, and his voice was really deep.

 

One of my favorites is the one from the first season, I think or it could be the second--the one with the horses? Where that kid that used to bully Shawn and Gus came to them and he stayed short, and was now a horse jockey? We got to see young Shawn and adult Shawn and young Gus and adult Gus share scenes together! And the most hilarious was young Shawn being shocked that he still had a full head of hair at 30, when he thought he'd be bald by 20!

 

Two episodes which really show/demonstrate, how much Gus means to Shawn: "There's Something About Mira", when Shawn realizes Gus is in danger and keeps asking Juliet and Lassiter for a gun, and they both shout "NO!" each time. The fear on Shawn's face, I don't have the words, but to me, it tells me how much Gus means to him.

 

And then there's "Gus Walks into a Bank..." when Shawn realizes why the cops are there...the way he suddenly tries to run in there and both Juliet and Lassiter hold him back.

 

It's episodes like those and the expressions on Shawn's face throughout the series, that make me love Shawn even more and can't hate him for when he is being a jerk.  When you get down to it, Gus's friendship means the world to him.  They even talked about it when Jaleel White and Keneen Thompson appeared--Shawn told Gus how he wanted Gus to make up with them, because these were his close friends from college, and he didn't want the same thing to happen to them--Gus and Shawn.  And I loved Dule's dry response as Gus of course, that if the stupid, ridiculous, dangerous things that Shawn had put Gus through in the past four years didn't break up their friendship, nothing would. I just HEART these two, so, so much!

[amensisterfriend]

Two episodes which really show/demonstrate, how much Gus means to Shawn: "There's Something About Mira", when Shawn realizes Gus is in danger and keeps asking Juliet and Lassiter for a gun, and they both shout "NO!" each time. The fear on Shawn's face, I don't have the words, but to me, it tells me how much Gus means to him.

And then there's "Gus Walks into a Bank..." when Shawn realizes why the cops are there...the way he suddenly tries to run in there and both Juliet and Lassiter hold him back.

It's episodes like those and the expressions on Shawn's face throughout the series, that make me love Shawn even more and can't hate him for when he is being a jerk.  When you get down to it, Gus's friendship means the world to him.

 

Absolutely! I also love the moment in Scary Sherry where the woman who turns out to be the killer, aka Sabrina from Raising Hope, asks Shawn how he'd feel if he lost HIS best friend, and Shawn's face gets this pained look as he quietly says he can't even imagine. Shawn does annoy me sometimes, but the degree to which he loves and needs Gus was always his saving grace for me. (And I think James Roday does every bit as terrific a job with the serious, emotional material as he does with the comedic stuff, if not even more so!)

 

Now I want to start rewatching from the beginning and take special note of my very favorite Gus/Shawn scenes and...I have way too much time on my hands, don't I?! ;) 

[DittyDotDot]

I just love how Shawn is supposed to be the swashbuckler and Gus is supposed to be his straight man, but neither looks down on the other or thinks their way is superior to the other. They accept each other for who they are and would never let anyone else talk trash about the other. It's very rare to see this kind of platonic same-sex relationship on TV...I adore just about everything about it!

[amensisterfriend]

You guys got me so nostalgic for this show that I just rewatched 9 Lives. Random observations:

 

1) As unapologetically light, fun and even silly as this show is, there are actually some sneaky splashes of poignancy and insight.

2) Awww...Gus admits Shawn is his only "non-work" friend. And they're both totally okay with that! 

3) Shawn can be too manic in S1, but the awesome flip side of that is that he also has this contagiously upbeat energy and genuine joie de vivre that I think fades a bit in later seasons. I also like how we see that he does genuinely care deep down about solving the case and getting justice...at least usually! 

4) I love watching Shawn and Lassie's relationship ever so slowly thaw. "Adequate," Lassiter grudgingly acknowledges at the end...which for him is high praise! 

5) Can I take a quick dip in the shallow end of the pool? Everyone looks so great this season! James Roday, in particular, looks markedly more adorable those first two seasons than at any time after IMO.

[amensisterfriend]

You guys got me so nostalgic for this show that I just rewatched 9 Lives. Random observations:

 

1) As unapologetically light, fun and even silly as this show is, there are actually some sneaky splashes of poignancy and insight.

2) Awww...Gus admits Shawn is his only "non-work" friend. And they're both totally okay with that! 

3) Shawn can be too manic in S1, but the awesome flip side of that is that he also has this contagiously upbeat energy and genuine joie de vivre that I think fades a bit in later seasons. I also like how we see that he does genuinely care deep down about solving the case and getting justice...at least usually! 

4) I love watching Shawn and Lassie's relationship ever so slowly thaw. "Adequate," Lassiter grudgingly acknowledges at the end...which for him is high praise :)

5) Can I take a quick dip in the shallow end of the pool? Everyone looks so great this season! James Roday, in particular, looks markedly more adorable those first two seasons than at any time after IMO.

6) I love animal loving Shawn and Gus's jealousy of their temporary pet

Edited March 27, 2015 by amensisterfriend

[DittyDotDot]

You guys got me so nostalgic for this show that I just rewatched 9 Lives. Random observations:

 

[...]

 

I love animal loving Shawn and Gus's jealousy of their temporary pet

 

OMG, that scene of Shawn driving and Gus is in the back with his knees up to his chest while that cat is strapped into the passenger seat will never, ever, ever, never...did I say ever?...not be funny to me. NEVER!  And, everyone's reaction to Shawn carrying around the cat and randomly talking to it, is so funny to me. And then he gives the cat to McNabb...awww!

 

I think I might need to go watch that one again!

Edited March 27, 2015 by DittyDotDot

[GHScorpiosRule]

Blech. Though I love "Viagra Falls" with Carl Weathers and William DeVane, who are what Gus and Shawn will end up like, I did not, and do not like this new young Shawn. Why? Because Liam's Shawn was a cynical kid, and only smiled when he got away, or thought he got away with shit.  This new kid? Smiled too much, and was too happy go lucky and sadly, too nice to Gus. We all know that Liam's Shawn was always trying to manipulate young Gus.

 

But both "Viagra Falls" and "Ferry Tale" had me laughing so much, it set off my coughing fit. Something I thought was gone. My cough, that is.

[amensisterfriend]

Here's a question for you guys---which of the comparatively serious Psych episodes are your very favorites? Which ones do you tend to skip?

 

And thanks for inspiring me to do another series rewatch :) 

[GHScorpiosRule]

Here's a question for you guys---which of the comparatively serious Psych episodes are your very favorites? Which ones do you tend to skip?

 

And thanks for inspiring me to do another series rewatch :) 

 

I will let you know when I get though with my Binge-Watching. But right now, Abigail notwithstanding, the Yang and Yin episodes, and "Shawn Takes a Shot" I think it's called from Season 4, where Shawn got shot, and leaves clues for Henry to find him.

Edited March 27, 2015 by GHScorpiosRule

[DittyDotDot]

Here's a question for you guys---which of the comparatively serious Psych episodes are your very favorites? Which ones do you tend to skip?

 

I'm not sure there's any I would just dismiss or skip...none I can think of right now anyway. I didn't really care for Abigail or Henry being a consultant, but none of those episodes elicit utter annoyance or anything. Although, I'm not too fond of the episode where Shawn's mom first appeared. I found Cybil Sheppard grating in this role and that episode in particular is a bit more overly-angsty for my taste. Funnily I was really looking forward to meeting Shawn's mother, but then when she appeared I was kinda wishing they'd never gone there. Anyway, still probably wouldn't skip it, just maybe watch that one passively. There seems to be enough good in almost every episode to outweigh the little bad.

 

As to favorite serious episodes, that's hard because is there really any episode that's truly serious? Here's a couple less goofy ones that came to mind: 

• Shawn Takes a Shot was the first one that jumped to mind. I like the structure of the episode and found it really well written and executed. I love how they get everyone involved in the case. Gus and Henry were pure treasures in this episode, IMO.
• I'm also very fond of A Very Juliette Episode. I love how she kinda precipitates them finding the guy, but then he misconstrues it as her having the most deep abiding love for him when she was just simply curious as to what happened to him. I'm pretty fond of Juliette all the time, but just adore her in S4 for some reason.
• I'm not sure if Mr. Yin Presents is really considered a serious episode, but there is definitely some seriousness to it. I love how they got all the Hitchcock fun and blended it with the seriousness of what it meant to the characters. Lassie and Juliette at the end of the episode really gets me.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Speaking of Shawn's mother...

 

I think it's from her, that Shawn gets his ability to remember the things, objects, whatever that his eyes hone in on. You know what I mean, when he squints his eyes and whatever he's looking at get that sound effect and highlighted?

 

Because when Lassiter had to talk to her, she told him, the reason why she didn't need a tape recorder or write things down was because she had eidetic memory.

 

I'm sure Henry's drilling into Shawn how to be a good detective also was a part of it, but I think the remembering comes from his mother.

 

I was thinking of creating an Unpopular Thread here, because there are a couple I have regarding Lassiter and Juliet, but I SUCK at witty titles so I didn't. Do any of y'all know who the mod is for this forum? So they could create one? Or even a quote thread! Of course, with the latter, I'm SO SURE, I'd be quoting Gus and Shawn's lines...to each other!  "Whaaaaat!?"

 

You know that's right!

[amensisterfriend]

I'm pretty sure we can just all start our own threads, GH. I usually just name mine "Unpopular Opinions"...I know you guys are totally bowled over by my creativity and cleverness. ;) If you start one, I'll definitely see you over there! 

 

The comparatively 'serious' episode that I remember really not liking is Santabarbaratown. I could happily do without the Shawn/Juliet angst of S7 as well, though the actors do a nice job. I've never been a big Yin/Yang fan, though I agree that the Hitchcock one is definitely the most awesome. 

 

I actually really like Shawn takes a Shot in the Dark and think it's some of James Roday's best acting. (As I've mentioned, I love him even more when he does dramatic material than comedic, but maybe I'll save that for the UO thread!) 

[DittyDotDot]

I started an Unpopular Opinions and a Quotes thread. I don't know about the titles, but we can change those when someone else comes up with a clever one.

 

I'm not a big fan of the Ying/Yang episodes either, except for the Hitchcock one. I only cared for Ally Sheedy/Yang in the musical episode, though.

 

I wasn't too fond of the relationship of Juliette and Shawn but kinda liked a couple of the episodes where they broke up after Juliette learned the truth...especially Juliette Wears A Pantsuit. I think Juliette looses a little of her shine when she's with Shawn, I prefer her when you can tell she cares about, respects and likes Shawn, but still keeps him at arms length. She seems like more of her own character to me at those times.

[GHScorpiosRule]

I'm pretty sure we can just all start our own threads, GH. I usually just name mine "Unpopular Opinions"...I know you guys are totally bowled over by my creativity and cleverness. ;) If you start one, I'll definitely see you over there! 

 

The comparatively 'serious' episode that I remember really not liking is Santabarbaratown. I could happily do without the Shawn/Juliet angst of S7 as well, though the actors do a nice job. I've never been a big Yin/Yang fan, though I agree that the Hitchcock one is definitely the most awesome. 

 

I actually really like Shawn takes a Shot in the Dark and think it's some of James Roday's best acting. (As I've mentioned, I love him even more when he does dramatic material than comedic, but maybe I'll save that for the UO thread!) 

 

 

I'll come with my version of witty, and if y'all don't like it, you can always get the mod to change it!

 

The thing with the Yin and Yang episodes? Even though I've seen them several times, I'm always on the edge of my seat.

 

One thing I forgot to mention was when they did the telenovella, Bollywood, and the Chinese Triad, I really loved how they sung it in Spanish, Hindi, and had the titles in Spanish, Hindi and Chinese.  Though I don't think the Hindi words were quite the correct translations. I should know, since I speak Hindi very fluently. Hey, it was mandatory growing up!

 

I love "Shawn Takes a Shot" and frankly, always enjoy his more dramatic turns as well. Even James Roday has said, he thought he'd be a more dramatic actor, never thought he'd end up doing comedic roles, and here you go.

[DittyDotDot]

One thing I forgot to mention was when they did the telenovella, Bollywood, and the Chinese Triad, I really loved how they sung it in Spanish, Hindi, and had the titles in Spanish, Hindi and Chinese.  Though I don't think the Hindi words were quite the correct translations. I should know, since I speak Hindi very fluently. Hey, it was mandatory growing up!

 

I loved all the little title song change ups, I think I especially adore the one for Dual Spires. What's funny to me is how much I love that episode despite never being a Twin Peaks fan. I mean, I watched the show because all my friends were talking about it and I wanted to know what they were talking about, but I just never could get into it like they could. I did love all the weird though, so maybe that's why I like the episode...it did manage to capture the weird.

[amensisterfriend]

A "best" is just how happy this show makes me, as does finding people like you guys who get why it's such mood-lifting awesomeness! 

 

Here's a question: Of all of Gus's many ill-fated would-be romances, which woman did you think he had the most chemistry with? What kind of person. if any, could you see him with? 

[DittyDotDot]

Hmmm...that's a hard one. Generally, I saw Gus far more into the woman than the woman was into Gus, but I did think the time he set up housekeeping at the commune was kinda funny. I wouldn't have wanted him to stay there or with that woman though. Gosh, I can't think of any I would want him to stay with long term, they were all so weirdly inappropriate for him--which, I do realize was kinda the point. It's too bad Shawn didn't have a sister Gus could've secretly slept with. ;)

 

Ooh, ooh, ooh, I just remembered Mira. Even though she was wildly whack-a-do and all, I thought they had great chemistry together. In a way, Mira was Gus's replacement-Shawn at a time when Shawn wasn't around. She got him to do things he wouldn't normally do and embrace life a bit more. So, over the long haul, I wouldn't have wanted them to stay together because Gus had Shawn, but I also wouldn't have minded seeing her again.

Edited March 28, 2015 by DittyDotDot

[GHScorpiosRule]

I couldn't stand Mira. Then again, I'm not a fan of Kerry Washington, so that might have something to do with it...Nope. Mira was just as Ditty said--too much of a whackadoodle.

 

That said, I'm not a fan of Sarah Shahi, but I didn't mind her, Ruby--the adrenaline junkie girlfriend of Gus' for all of one episode.

 

I can't remember who else Gus dated, and I don't count the murderer in Season 5...or rather, the druggie...her adopted father was the murderer. Oh yeah, he did sort of make a date with that twat, who set up Diddle??? to get murdered in the season 4 eppie with Jaleel White and Kenan Thompson.

 

I rather liked his last girlfriend, played by Parmindra Nagra, a single mother in the last season. But didn't she like reconcile with her son's father or something?

 

Really, I could have done without the romances on this show, because I only cared about Shawn and Gus' relationship; okay and Shawn and Henry's.

 

Mebbe we should create a relationship thread to talk about those?

 

Ahem

 

And since y'all know I'm not a fan of Lassiter's, I fully admit, that I fast forwarded ALL scenes with him and Marlo, in "This episode Sucks", season 6 (yep, I'm up to 6 now) Halloween episode.  Just when is Henry going to quit again?

 

Oh yeah...forgot all about Peter Weller being Yin and he was Yang's...father? Whatever.

 

And Skyler Gisondo, who took over playing Shawn, totally was miscast. He doesn't have the talent to play the cynic and sneaky kid that Liam James excelled at. I can't buy him as Shawn, whereas, I could totally buy Liam's young Shawn, turning out to grow up as Roday's Shawn. Does that make sense?

[DittyDotDot]

And Skyler Gisondo, who took over playing Shawn, totally was miscast. He doesn't have the talent to play the cynic and sneaky kid that Liam James excelled at. I can't buy him as Shawn, whereas, I could totally buy Liam's young Shawn, turning out to grow up as Roday's Shawn. Does that make sense?

 

Totally makes sense! Young Shawn was most delightful when he was cynical and slightly manipulative, but really bad at it and always getting caught--that's how Shawn learned to do it better, IMO.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Unless I missed it, I was hoping for more Karate Kid references in the episode with Ralph Macchio.

 

I"m wondering if Roday was a fan of General Hospital, which used to be good in the 80s and 90s, because Shawn made a reference to the show itself at least twice.

 

And I could have sworn I'd seen ALL the episodes, but apparently I missed one--the one where Juliet's father, played by William Shatner.  I don't remember that one at all, and I didn't really care for it, and he totally should have gone to jail for stealing that penny.

 

Also, I could have sworn that in the first Christmas episode, not to mention the second episode in the first season, Jules' parents were still married?  Then of course, we got the episode with Jules' stepfather...was that in Season 7 or 8? I can't remember.  Retcons like that peeve me to no end.  Then again, I don't know or can't recall if Jules' parents were still married when we first met her so, the point could be moot.

[DittyDotDot]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Juliette had the perfect family (S1) until she didn't (S7). I didn't care much for the episode where we meet Juliette's dad either. I mean, I thought Shattner was fine in the role--unlike how I feel about Cybil Sheppard as Shawn's mom--but the episode itself didn't do much for me. This retcon seems to go against what we already know of Juliette being the girl next door with the perfect life and so on. So, it took me a moment to adjust, too. However, I kinda love the episode with Juliette's step-dad, so I forgive. I rather enjoy how Henry and the step-dad are basically Gus and Shawn, but without the long history. I don't think they needed to do a retcon to get this episode, though.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Yes! And what about Jules' two kitty cats? Remember, when Shawn first met her, he was "reading" her, and saw the hairs of two different kitties! Yet, no kitties in the Christmas episode nor did we ever see them! And it's not like this was the pilot, where things change!

 

Bad,Franks! Very sloppy!

[DittyDotDot]

I'd forgotten all about the kitties!

[GHScorpiosRule]

Okay, it was on my mind, so I skipped all the way to the series finale...

 

Man, the end, when Shawn explains to Gus how he SUCKS as a friend (no, he doesn't; though he has done some questionable things), and how Gus could have been such a success if not for Shawn...Gus tears up, I'm bawling...and continue to bawl till the end.

 

And still disappointed that no one said "Buuuuuuuuud" to Gus' new boss, who was the actor who did play Bud on The Cosby Show.

 

And then I went back to Season 7; I'm at the episode where we get to see Shawn and Gus do the "Chocolate Dance."  Those two are sooooo great together.

 

And another serious side to Shawn that I really liked and appreciated, and which demonstrated that Shawn does love Henry.  When he's confronting Jerry in "Santabarbaratown Part II" with a gun. And tells Jerry it's his (Jerry's) gun, so it will work.

 

Both episodes were great, but I really loved how Gus and Jules tried to rein Shawn in, while Lassie provided him with what he needed. 

 

And though Mel Gibson is no longer among my loved actors, I did love the references to Lethal Weapon 2, not to mention China Town. And really, really glad the obvious bad guy wasn't Rob Estes, who I have looooved since Silk Stalkings.

 

Poor Blueberry got split in half, and then Shawn accidentally blows up Cranberry!

 

I did miss seeing Kenen Thompson in "Doo-Whop-It-Again." The other dude was funny, but Kenan would have been funnier.

 

And whaddya know? It seems I missed 3 episodes from Season 6--the one mentioned up thread where we meet Jules' dad, the hippie episode, and then the one where Shawn and Jules go to the spa, which featured Brandon Walsh Jason Priestly! Which tells me that Shawn had been thinking of proposing to her for much longer than I thought, since I MISSED that episode! And where we got a cameo from Shatner, who told Shawn he knew Shawn was a fake.

 

I'm really not looking forward to Juliet realizing that Shawn's been lying to her for 7 years. Really not.

[DittyDotDot]

And then I went back to Season 7; I'm at the episode where we get to see Shawn and Gus do the "Chocolate Dance."  Those two are sooooo great together.

 

Oh how I wanted Gus to find that chocolate room after that chocolate dance!

[GHScorpiosRule]

So, I finally completed watching the entire series last night, and went RIGHT back to the Pilot.

 

Damn, but Roday was a lot slimmer and can I say hawter in the pilot.  And continuity RETCON from the second episode, when we meet Juliet.  Sure, five or six years went by, but I think I expected better from this show.

 

In "The Spelling Bee", we learn that Juliet's parents have been together for 30 years and she has two kitties--a gray one and a white one. I'm annoyed we never see them, or that they changed Juliet's parents being divorced. I suppose it was a way for her to explain why honesty was so very important to her. They could have still had that, without changing it, but whatever.

 

And since it was the pilot, I'll hand wave away, the fact that it looked like Gus owned his own house, yet years later, he's now living in a pristine condo. I think I preferred his house.

 

Don't know if this last piece should go into the Unpopular thread or not, as I don't know if it is unpopular, but I really, really, really didn't like Mira Sorvino's character or that she made Shawn look stupid or superflous/not needed. I kept saying, SHUT UP, BITCH every time she opened her mouth to cut Shawn off.

[amensisterfriend]

Don't know if this last piece should go into the Unpopular thread or not, as I don't know if it is unpopular, but I really, really, really didn't like Mira Sorvino's character or that she made Shawn look stupid or superflous/not needed. I kept saying, SHUT UP, BITCH every time she opened her mouth to cut Shawn off.

 

Heh---I wasn't really a fan of Mira here (or, for that matter, anywhere!), but in general I think I adore Shawn a lot less than most people still posting about this show. (Though I liked him more than most on TWoP, so I guess it levels out!) I often liked when people on the show called Shawn out, especially because...well, he was a supremely annoying, cocky, rude, arrogant, juvenile 'attention whore' whose job was based on fraud and a deliberate lie that he perpetuated for many years. (Okay, so maybe I didn't like him THAT much more than most on TWoP!) Don't get me wrong: I like James Roday a lot and think he and the writing gave Shawn clear strengths that equaled or at times even made up for his many flaws, which made him a well written, interesting fictional character...but in real life I can see many, many people finding him completely insufferable, so I rarely minded when he got a much-needed ego check or was met with some resistance. 

 

 

 

Damn, but Roday was a lot slimmer and can I say hawter in the pilot.

 

Assuming that 'hawter' is hotter...yeah. That :) James Roday changed significantly over the course of the series, and I'm always so happily surprised to remember how adorable he was back in S1. 

 

 

 

And continuity RETCON from the second episode, when we meet Juliet.  Sure, five or six years went by, but I think I expected better from this show.

In "The Spelling Bee", we learn that Juliet's parents have been together for 30 years and she has two kitties--a gray one and a white one. I'm annoyed we never see them, or that they changed Juliet's parents being divorced.

 

The retcon re. Juliet's family always annoyed the heck out of me. Not just because it made the writers seem sloppy and lazy (though it did!), but because what once made Juliet surprisingly unique among female law enforcement characters to me was that she was so sunny and comparatively untroubled. She wasn't a jaded, damaged hardass---she was there because she had a flair for solving crimes and happened to be a happy, well-adjusted person as well. Once she started dating Shawn (or maybe even earlier than that), she started losing some of her sunny effervescence which, while maybe realistic, made her less distinct and lovable to me. And then we get the blatant retcon re.her background as if the show figured they had nothing else to do with her and hence had to make her seem 'darker' by default. Ugh!  So, yeah, that's a really long-winded way of saying I agree :) 

 

Were there any seasons, episodes, characters etc. that you liked either more or less than you did the first time around??? 

Edited April 27, 2015 by amensisterfriend

[GHScorpiosRule]

I understand what you're saying about Shawn, amensisterfriend, but I blame the show for making Shawn more of a leech, infantile toward the end of the series. The last two and a half, really.

 

Watching it all, and then starting from the beginning, Shawn had money. He had an apartment, which one can assume, required him to pay rent. And this was all BEFORE he got the idea to become psychic.  As early as the pilot, when Shawn and Gus retrieve the bag that was used for ransom, Shawn asks Gus for some money, and Gus gives him ones and fives...then when Gus tells Shawn to use his own money, you see Shawn with a wad of Benjamins.  He also, in the early seasons, would buy lunch for both him and Gus.

 

You saw how much Shawn loved Gus; what their friendship meant to him. But toward the end of the series, they just made Shawn more selfish, not as creative with his psychicness, which made him look the fool. And I didn't like that. 

 

So I'd say, in addition to making Jules' backstory "darker", I don't really care for the last two seasons, even though there are a few episodes that have me laughing really hard and long.  I'd say I much prefer the first three and a half seasons.

[DittyDotDot]

Yeah, in the first season Shawn new lots of stuff because he'd worked all these jobs for short periods of time. He wasn't a letch, but just got bored easily and moved on to the next job. But, nobody paid his bills or took care of him. In the pilot, he hadn't been in contact with Henry or Gus for some time, right? In some ways Shawn was smarter and more grown up in the first season (I hold the opinion Shawn grew up in other ways over the course of the series, though). They quickly moved away from that so Shawn could stay the perpetual Peter Pan, though. To tell the truth, I fully expected to dislike Shawn by the end of the first season because of all his antics and man-children really aren't my thing, but somehow he grew on me instead. In real life, Shawn would be someone I wouldn't mind hanging out with from time to time when I needed a laugh or wanted to waste a day, but probably wouldn't tell him where I lived or invite him over for fear he'd never leave.

 

The physic thing was weird for me too, I was sure I was going to hate it--and, sometimes I did wish they'd just out him. But then I also thought their handling it by not handling it might have been a stroke of genius. They never made it any big storyline, it was always just there in the background. I'm grateful they didn't spend episode after episode of Shawn and Gus trying to avoid getting found out and there being a big secret background investigation going on or any of the other hijinks I had expected when I first started watching the show. I also was prepared to dislike Lassie because I was sure they were going to make it Lassie's life mission to out Shawn over the course of the series. I was pleasantly surprised when they didn't go that route and just have Lassie know in his gut Shawn was a lying liar who lied and wouldn't allow himself to get caught up in Shawn's crazy orbit because of that belief. I also thought how Juliette just pieced it together herself and straight-up asked Shawn was handled rather well. In the end, the psychic thing really became a non-entity for me.

 

It's rather remarkable to me that my two main misgivings about the show going in are the things they managed to turn around for me. There's not many shows out there one can say that about anymore. Probably why I'm so forgiving of some of the other things that didn't always work for me... ::cough:: Consultant Henry ::cough::

[GHScorpiosRule]

From what I gathered in the pilot, Shawn didn't know that Henry had come back to Santa Barbara...assuming Henry had even left, since the house was still there.

 

I got the sense he stayed in touch with Gus, since Gus wasn't like "what are you doing here after all these years?" He wasn't surprised to see Shawn show up in his office.  

 

Sure, there was no one to pay Shawn's bills, except Shawn himself--which he did, otherwise, I don't think he'd have had such a swanky apartment, with that nice television, and the other gadgets. Now I can't remember why he gave that place up, which led to him sleeping in the psych office all the time.

[DittyDotDot]

Wasn't there an episode in S1 saying his lease was up? Didn't he also live in another office space for another S1 episode? Something about him taking weird places to live in for some reason I can't recall right now...Sheesh, it hasn't been that long since I watched it.

 

Anyway, you're right, it didn't seem like Gus was surprised to see him. I just got the impression Shawn had recently moved back to Santa Barbara as well, so I assumed Gus wasn't paying his way while he was moving around the country taking odd jobs and such.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Wasn't there an episode in S1 saying his lease was up? Didn't he also live in another office space for another S1 episode? Something about him taking weird places to live in for some reason I can't recall right now...Sheesh, it hasn't been that long since I watched it.

If there was, my mind blanked it out. Which is too bad, because I liked Shawn's apartment.  And the office was new enough that he hadn't bought all the hammocks, beds, gadgets, etc. yet to make the office his "apartment."

 

 

Anyway, you're right, it didn't seem like Gus was surprised to see him. I just got the impression Shawn had recently moved back to Santa Barbara as well, so I assumed Gus wasn't paying his way while he was moving around the country taking odd jobs and such.

 

I got the sense he'd been there for some time...and I know I'm using real life logic, but how could he have managed to fill his place with all that stuff if he was just a recent returned to home? He was estranged from Henry so I can buy that he didn't know Henry had been back for almost a year.

[DittyDotDot]

You're probably right that Shawn had been back for sometime. I think the idea that he had worked on a dude ranch in Montana and other jobs in various states that had me thinking he was recently moved back. And, that conversation where Shawn says, "Thanks for letting me know you moved back." And Henry says, "Thanks for letting me know you moved away." Or something like that...but now that I think about it, I think it was about moving in and out of the house, not necessarily Santa Barbara.

 

Yeah, he probably had been around for a while...hadn't he also been calling in tips to the police for sometime? Isn't that why they were sure he was probably a criminal or something?

[GHScorpiosRule]

You're probably right that Shawn had been back for sometime. I think the idea that he had worked on a dude ranch in Montana and other jobs in various states that had me thinking he was recently moved back. And, that conversation where Shawn says, "Thanks for letting me know you moved back." And Henry says, "Thanks for letting me know you moved away." Or something like that...but now that I think about it, I think it was about moving in and out of the house, not necessarily Santa Barbara.

 

Yeah, he probably had been around for a while...hadn't he also been calling in tips to the police for sometime? Isn't that why they were sure he was probably a criminal or something?

 

 

First paragraph--yes. But as we learned in season 7? the opening when Shawn had that horrid wig from circa 1990s, how he was 18 and arrested. Lassie was a uni then, who threw him in the pokey. The parents had just gotten divorced, I think.  And I know there was some dialogue in the pilot that Shawn did go to college, so maybe he went away to college and then wandered the States. It was a conversation he had with Lassie's old partner at the shooting range--where she said he was so smart, he could have done anything, but he just didn't apply himself. And as we learned in the pilot, Shawn was a expert marksman, in that, he knew how to shoot a gun.

 

Second paragraph--Yep; they noticed he was the one calling in ALL the tips, and assumed he was the one committing those crimes as well, based on his knowing details only the perpetrator could know.

[amensisterfriend]

I'd say I much prefer the first three and a half seasons.

 

I always name S2 as by far my favorite season, and it does probably have the greatest number of episodes I love and the fewest I don't, but there's something so special about S1 for me despite its flaws. There's just such an amazing energy and infectious sense of fun. And while Shawn could be really, REALLY immature this season (and the exaggerated flailing around during his "psychic" visions bugs me a bit), I actually thought Henry and Shawn being more at odds made Shawn a more layered and sympathetic character in a certain way, and watching them slowly start to get along better is a treat. This is also the season during which I most love Juliette. I'd mention the wonderful Gus/Shawn moments, but that's true of pretty much EVERY season :) And, as I've been shallow enough to note before, Shawn/JR just looks so great in this first season, which doesn't hurt my overall opinion of it :) I blame you guys for inspiring me to rewatch yet AGAIN! 

[amensisterfriend]

---I feel one of my enjoyably torturous challenges coming on ;) Here are some fun best/worst type of questions for us to ponder over the weekend. Even if we've already covered some of this, it's always fun to see how some of our opinions change with repeated viewings and the passage of time! 

 

1) If you could keep just FIVE episodes to watch over and over and...

 

In chronological order, I'll go with From the Earth to the Starbucks, Scary Sherry, American Duos, And Down the Stretch Comes Murder, This Episode Sucks

 

(Yeah, I know...odd choices, but I'm just really attached to these!) 

 

2) Your three favorite relationships: 

 

1) Shawn/Gus, 2) Shawn/Henry, 3) Juliet/Lassiter 

 

3) Your 3-5 favorite characters other than Shawn, Gus, Juliet, Lassie and Henry:

 

Woody, Marlowe (have I mentioned I have strange taste?!), Buzz, Gus's parents 

 

4) The five episodes you're most likely to skip while rewatching:

 

Yang 3 in 2D, In for a Penny, Santabarbaratown, Santabarabarian Candidate, Remake: Cloudy...With a Chance of Improvement (Honestly, though, I'd be fine never rewatching about half of S5-S8 again) 

 

5) Your 3-5 LEAST favorite characters:

 

Shawn's mother/Cybil Shepherd, Abigail, Mira (as in There's Something About Mira...I think she appeared just once, but it was enough to exhaust me to the point where I never wanted to see her again!), probably a few people who annoyed me to the point where I'm suppresing their existence :)

 

6) Characters or episodes most fans seem to love that you're kind of indifferent to:

 

Characters:Karen Vick (I don't DISlike her---she just doesn't add much to the show for me)

 

Episodes: Black and Tan, the Yin/Yang episodes, Murder...? Anyone...?, Talk Derby to Me, A Very Juliet Episode, Last Night Gus, Lassie Jerky

 

7) Characters or episodes you seem to love a lot MORE than most fans:

 

Characters: Marlowe, Buzz, Woody 

 

Episodes: Woman Seeking Dead Husband, Weekend Warriors, Down the Stretch..., Meat is Murder, If You're So Smart, Why Are You Dead?, Dis-lodged, Six Feet Under the Sea, Any Given Friday Night at 10, Let's Get Hairy, Shawn Rescues Death Vader, Autopsy Turvy 

 

As always, I'm excited to read other people's choices :) 

Edited May 1, 2015 by amensisterfriend

[Geeni]

Ooh, I'm a dork, I love these kinds of things.

 

1) If you could keep just FIVE episodes to watch over and over and...

I'm very boring, I like a lot of the more popular episodes. But basically the episodes I watch over and over are Mr Yin. Presents..., Last Night Gus, Black and Tan, American Duos, and Lassie Did a Bad, Bad Thing.

 

MYP... is my top, though.

2) Your three favorite relationships:

1. Shawn/Gus! 2. Lassie/Juliet and 3. I actually don't think I have a third. I find the very rarely seen Juliet/Gus friendship fun?

3) Your 3-5 favorite characters other than Shawn, Gus, Juliet, Lassie and Henry:

Buzz, Chief Vick, YANG OF COURSE!, the Blueberry because duh it IS its own character and has a big presence on the show.

4) The five episodes you're most likely to skip while rewatching:

the entirety of S7, and any episode focusing on Henry because frankly I considered him a waste of screentime and I didn't care about his relationship with Shawn.

5) Your 3-5 LEAST favorite characters:

 

Shawn, I know I know. I liked him at the beginning of the show but I just felt like he got more childish as it went on; Henry (explained above); and Mr. Yin because I hated the "twist" that he was Yang's father.

6) Characters or episodes most fans seem to love that you're kind of indifferent to:

Character: Shawn.

 

Episode: Not sure, I guess The Break-Up?

7) Characters or episodes you seem to love a lot MORE than most fans:

 

ABIGAIL! I don't even care, I loved her. Part of it was my longtime crush on Rachel Leigh Cooke, but also I liked that she had an actual personality and a life outside of being Shawn's current love interest (unlike Juliet whom I felt became one-dimensional when it came to her relationship with him, which I hated because I love Juliet).

 

Episode: I actually did enjoy Gus Walks into a Bank and Dual Spires. Also Tuesday the 17th!

Edited May 5, 2015 by Geeni

[amensisterfriend]

Yay---I'm so excited that someone joined in! 

 

 

 

American Duos

 

This is among my most rewatched hours of TV of ANY show ever. 

 

 

 

2. Lassie/Juliet

 

I'm glad that someone else loves their relationship! 

 

 

 

the Blueberry because duh it IS its own character and has a big presence on the show.

 

Ha---you're totally right, and I was horribly remiss for not listing it earlier :) 

 

 

 

Shawn, I know I know. I liked him at the beginning of the show but I just felt like he got more childish as it went on

 

See, I totally get that and very often agree. He can be insufferably obnoxious, attention-desperate, cocky and juvenile. Plus, he was never nearly as gorgeous as he was that first season! :) 

 

 

 

but also I liked that she had an actual personality and a life outside of being Shawn's current love interest

 

How would you describe Abigail's personality? I'm genuinely curious---I just saw her as kind of cold and self-satisfied (and I haaaaate how she contacted Henry behind Shawn's back), but then I tend to zone out during most of S4's Abigail scenes :) 

 

 

 

Dual Spires. Also Tuesday the 17th!

 

Two of my favorites!!! I didn't realize it was unpopular to love these! 

 

 

 

I actually did enjoy Gus Walks into a Bank

 

This one isn't among my favorites, though I do like it...and the mere fact that my beloved Gary Cole is in it means that it's a keeper for me. 

 

Just typing about this show makes me want to rewatch it yet again :) 

Edited May 5, 2015 by amensisterfriend

[amensisterfriend]

---I have two more to add to the 'episodes most seem meh on that I adore' category:

 

Game, Set Muuuuurder---Such great lines, fabulous Gus moments, Shawn missing Gus even for the few minutes he's away on that office retreat, a couple of interesting suspects, and an interesting subplot re Henry/Lassie bonding and Lassie being all quietly noble at the end---I always thought Lassie and Henry had quite a lot in common, and in some ways Lassie represents the son who Shawn thinks Henry wishes he'd had. 

 

Shawn Takes a Shot in the Dark---Definitely one of my favorites of the more serious episodes, and IMO features some of James Roday's best acting and terrific reminders of how deeply these people really do care about one another. 

[raven]

I found out about this show a couple of years ago and treated myself to the complete series boxed set (yay me) because I love it so much. I think there's probably episodes I've missed as I work my way through, I've seen most on reruns but I'll take a shot at the questions :)

 

1) If you could keep just FIVE episodes to watch over and over and...

Not Even Close..Encounters (my absolute fave ep, I laugh over and over every time)

High Top Fade Out (love Gus centric stuff, love the singing and Shawn's look of stunned joy when he sees Gus sing the first time is heart-warming)

Cog Blocked (yup, Gus-centric)

American Duos

Dual Spires  oh wait - maybe Disco isn't Dead, it was Murdered - eek that's tough!  I can watch either really. Wait again!  I can watch The Amazing Psych Man & Tap Man, Gus tap dancing and throwing the sand makes me laugh until I cry...I can't choose!!

Honorable mentions:  High Noon-ish, Last Night Gus, Deez Nups, Lassie Jerky, Lock Stock, Some Smoking Barrels etc

2) Your three favorite relationships:

Shawn/Gus easy #1

Lassie/Juliet - what a great friendship pairing, I know some saw them as couple potential, I never did.  She really grew past being mentored by him and they were great friends.

Shawn/Henry -though Shawn did regress, their relationship progressed.  I liked it.  I liked Shawn/Lassie also and felt their relationship naturally progressed.

3) Your 3-5 favorite characters other than Shawn, Gus, Juliet, Lassie and Henry:

McNab, Woody, Despereaux (he was in just enough eps).  Chief Vick was OK but they never did too much with her.  Gus's parents were fun. 

4) The five episodes you're most likely to skip while rewatching:

Do I have to??  Hmmm - probably the Pilot (I don't like Shawn's flailing around in the early eps)

Rob-a-Bye Baby (kind of blah for me)

An Evening with Mr Yang (though I like the puzzles and mystery, I can't stand Ally Sheedy in this, even briefly, she's so over the top)/Mr Yin Presents (again, I like the premise, the Hitchcock stuff, Lassie/Juliet at the end but Ally Sheedy, ugh)/Yang 3 in 3D

Cloudy with a Chance of Improvement (I mean why?? The original episode is so good, this one didn't need to be done at all)

Right Turn or Left for Dead

Psych the Musical (normally something I would enjoy, but didn't like it all)

5) Your 3-5 LEAST favorite characters:

Are you all surprised?? Mr Yang is #1

Abigail - I wanted to like her, but her "so cool" dialogue just didn't seem to fit the character and I didn't like that she went to Henry after Shawn asked her to drop it

Hmm - may add more later?

6) Characters or episodes most fans seem to love that you're kind of indifferent to:

I don't know :((  From reading here and TWOP it seems Spellingg Bee and 9 Lives are loved but I'm meh on both of them

7) Characters or episodes you seem to love a lot MORE than most fans:

I don't see the Amazing Pysch Man mentioned often but I love it (the Mantis! Tap Man! Shawn going boneless again LOL)

The Old and the Restless (Henry loving the nursing home and then the three of them running out before getting busted..hee)

All the Despereaux episodes, esp after Shawn gets his man-crush going; love them all

Viagra Falls (Shawn and Gus trying to work with their older versions)

Earth, Wind and Wait for It - I liked Morgan (too bad she had to be rescued) and was very happy that both Gus and Shawn got be heroic and each carried someone out of a burning building

There may be more..for characters I don't know - I liked Shawn all the way through, even though they regressed him, though Gus is my favorite. 

Edited May 10, 2015 by raven

[amensisterfriend]

Yay---more Psych-os!!!  

 

Raven, based on your lists I'm guessing seasons 4-6 are your favorites...? 

 

 

 

(I don't like Shawn's flailing around in the early eps)

 

Same here. Despite those exaggeratedly ridiculous 'visions', though, that latter half of S1 is still one of my favorite stretches of the series :) 

 

 

 

Rob-a-Bye Baby (kind of blah for me)

 

I'm warped enough to adore the scene where Gus is mistaken for a creep who loves children in the wrong sort of way at the playground, but other than that ITA that this is one of the very few S2 episodes I'm kind of meh on. Another is There's Something About Mira because Mira really irks me, and as nutty as Gus can be about women, I still just find him marrying her on impulse very out of character for our beloved Gus. 

 

 

 

High Noon-ish

 

I'm almost surprised this one doesn't get more love. The outfits alone make me ridiculously happy, and I tend to love episodes that show us a slightly more vulnerable Lassiter and/or hint at why he's...the way he is :)  

 

 

 

Gus's parents were fun.

 

I love them! Gus' Parents May Have Killed an Old Guy is one of my most rewatched episodes. 

 

 

 

Abigail - I wanted to like her, but her "so cool" dialogue just didn't seem to fit the character and I didn't like that she went to Henry after Shawn asked her to drop it

 

I had the vague impression that the character supposed to be 'cool', maybe the cool high school crush who Shawn kind of idealized all those years...? Honestly, the writing and acting were such a blank for me that I have no idea who the character was supposed to be. I do know that I agree with you about how much I hate, hate, HATED her pushily contacting Henry and getting involved in their relationship, though. 

 

it seems Spellingg Bee and 9 Lives are loved but I'm meh on both of them

 

Spellingg Bee is the first episode I saw and therefore a sentimental favorite of mine, but I have to admit that the last couple of times I watched it I found myself thinking it wasn't as great as I'd remembered. I actually LOVE a lot of parts of 9 Lives, though a few scenes are skip-worthy :) 

 

 

 

The Old and the Restless

 

This and Dis-lodged are such underrated S2 gems! 

 

 

 

Earth, Wind and Wait for It - I liked Morgan (too bad she had to be rescued) and was very happy that both Gus and Shawn got be heroic and each carried someone out of a burning building

 

I always forget how much I like this one---and a few others from S3, which is my least favorite of those first four seasons but still very solid overall.  

Edited May 10, 2015 by amensisterfriend