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I've given it some thought, and I think what was going on there was that there is a portion of society who, as soon as you call someone a racist, they just tune you out and think you're being over dramatic or taking it too far. They simply won't listen to the rest of the conversation beyond that point. Leroy may very well be used to that kind of thing. So in order to not distract from the larger point of how completely wrong her outburst was, he took that off the table. The other thought I had was that he and a lot of the other cast members have seen how insane she gets every single time she's drunk and angry. He may have truly, in that moment, considered this just another example of her being completely awful in that state of mind and lashing out to hurt whoever she's pissed at as much as possible. If he has years of knowing her and not having her say or do racist things around him, it may be hard for him to label her like that vs. labeling her as someone who has an out of control drinking problem. If that's the case, and it was a matter of him just not wanting to see that in her, I do wonder if he's changed his take on that since then, after finding out about her spewing racist shit at Nelson, after seeing her "these black motherfuckers always do this!" rant at the production staff, and after how much time has gone by and she still hasn't reached out to him about this. (Provided he didn't witness any of those moments when they happened. Camila tends to do her own brand of Tasmanian Devil whirl through the house when she's in that state, and I doubt Leroy was following her around to catch it all, so I'm guessing there was shit he missed.) To be clear, I absolutely think she's a racist. But, I'm not someone who has any length of friendship with her to counter that impression. It may be harder for Leroy to get to that belief than it is for those of us who are simply watching this from the outside. One little thing I noticed, when Camila went into the living room for deliberations, she, of course, went to sit next to Tony, since they were the winners who were sending someone into elimination. But, the person stuck sitting on her other side was John. In my mind, I'm going to tell myself that the rest of the cast was like "no, you're sitting next to her. You hooking up with her is probably a huge part of the reason she kept getting asked back in the beginning to establish herself as a regular cast member, and you're the one who has always tried to ramp up the 'Camilinator' for your own entertainment, so this is your mess, Bananas."

From what Cara Maria has said on social media, it sounds like she did have more than one conversation with Camila over the course of those two days, and she's really annoyed that MTV didn't show any of them, because she's getting a lot of "how come you didn't speak up to your friend when she was being racist" kind of blowback from people.

I said to my TV "you're seriously going to let a black man's name come out of your mouth right now??" I was thinking the same thing when she came back in the same clothes - the PA probably said "fuck that noise" and left her bags right where they were. After watching her go off on a racist tirade and then having her pull that lady of the manor verbally abusing the peasants shit on me, I would have absolutely left her shit there until the end of time. (OK, maybe I would have happily schlepped it to the van if it was taking her to the airport because she was being booted. But I wouldn't have been gentle, and I would have prayed that shit was broken when she got home.) And I think it would have been awesome if, after John threw that pillow and then Camila went and hit Leroy with it, they would have both been booted. Yeah, a pillow is hardly a blunt object, but the throwing and hitting was done in the heat of a confrontation, so fuck the two of them and send them home. Maybe John would learn a lesson about stirring people up for his own amusement. I know the producers probably love that he's a shit stirrer, but there are certain times you don't stir the shit, and this should have been one of them. Leroy was freaking amazing. I'm beyond impressed that he kept his cool the entire time. Nothing but respect for him there. And it depressed me that he just talked about it like it was just another day in this world for him. There is no reason he should ever have to put up with that hateful shit. He was a better person than me both in his in the moment reaction and the way he handled it the next day. I do wonder, though, if he's since rethought his saying that he doesn't think she's racist. The fact that she still hasn't had it in her to approach him and apologize to him, and that her only tears when talking about it were in her taped confessional, when she was trying to win over viewers, should tip him off that she firmly believes the shit she said to him. Add in that her comments were not solely addressed to him, and included a racist rant at Nelson and the generalized "that's what these black motherfuckers do all the time" statement, and it's pretty clear what she is. Some of her friends are putting forward the "what she said was inexcusable, but anyone who knows her can tell you she's not racist" line. They must have a pretty strict definition of "racist." She may not be putting on a white robe or buying out tiki torches at Walmart and marching, but she's a racist. What she did on last night's episode was the definition of racism. I sincerely hope the show doesn't invite her back any more, and I hope that she gets the psychological help she so obviously needs. (And AA wouldn't hurt, either.)

I have to say, I'm a little mad at you for keeping that one to yourself for so long. It's perfect. I remember even around 10 years or so ago, when I used to have an US Weekly subscription, they always had a feature after major awards show where they'd have like 4 or 5 actresses' looks from the night along with a guide to where to get the knockoff look. The knockoff looks were always pretty clearly knockoffs - they were the same essential style, but not exact replicas. I think that there has always been an element of similarity among different lines, especially with lower end lines incorporating a certain element from higher end lines, but making it their own version. The first example of how not to do it that comes to mind is the stories about Ivanka Trump's shoe line. There's a red shoe I remember seeing in one of the stories that is almost a carbon copy of another line's shoe. Had she simply taken one element of the shoe design, like the kind of fluffy accent over the toe strap, and then designed an entirely different shoe around it, I don't think the other company would have an argument. She could simply say that her designers identified that element as a potential upcoming trend, and they decided to do their own take on it. But, the shoe is also nearly identical in heel and ankle strap designs, so it's really hard to argue that it's not a rip off. I think it would be a better idea for the show, instead of going with outright stolen designs, to have Spectra get a peek at the FC line and merely lift certain elements into their own designs. Current day Sally is supposed to actually have some design talent, so it would make sense that she'd prefer to put her own spin on the trends the FC line is creating than to just outright copy their exact designs. Then you'd have Steffy having tantrums over them "stealing" from FC, but there would be nothing she could really do about it (beyond proving that someone was stealing their designs to provide them to Spectra). Then we could maybe have instances where the Spectra take on something is selling better than FC's version. (Which would also make Steffy's head explode.) There's no real rooting value for the Spectra gang to succeed if all they're doing is copying designs outright, and I'm not really interested in watching that. But something more gray, where Spectra's designs are truly their own designs, with trends FC has forecast incorporated into them, would be a better story. I'm fine with an 18 year old and a 16 year old dating. It happens fairly often, and there are a number of states where any physical relationship wouldn't even be illegal, either because the age of consent is 16, or because they have "Romeo & Juliet" exemptions from their statutory rape laws where a couple who is within two years of each other isn't considered a violation. From my own personal point of view, though, I would have never considered dating a 16 year old boy when I was 18. No way. I wasn't even really thrilled with boys my own age at that point, and preferred guys in the 19-22 range, but 16? They'd have to be an exceptionally mature 16 year old.

I swear, when that slap first happened, and I just saw brunette hair, I was saying "if that's that bitch Katie, lurking in the damn bushes a-fucking-gain..." Ivy slapping Quinn for having her tongue down Ridge's throat is fine with me, though. I wanted to slap a little sense into her myself, I admit. KKL and DD are just miles better together than KKL and TK. But I really want Brooke to choose to go back to Bill before she finds out about Ridge messing around with Quinn. Bill is so devoted and sure that I want that rewarded with her wanting him because she wants him, and not because he's her fallback.

Me today: "Hey, GH is on. I haven't watched in a while, but I'm sick and in bed, so let's see what's happening." A little later "Oh, hey, are they actually going to start working towards a future Liz/Griffin pairing? Interesting. OK, so, let's see what else is... Michael Easton is licking up pill crumbs from the floor and nurse's station. What the actual fuck is this?"

That's what I was thinking too. It was like "do you know your family at all?" Because you generally know if your family is one where they'd enjoy a guy like Dean or one where the introduction would be awkward. I know my extended family would enjoy the hell out of one of us bringing someone like Dean home to meet them. He'd fit right in. So, none of us would get all stressed out and worry about him "making a good impression." She seemed to not get that her family falls in the "we love this crazy guy!" camp. And, as for his appearance, if her family watched her work at all, they'd be familiar with what he looks like (and his in ring persona).

Renee was getting on my nerves, big time. It was so clear that her family liked him (and approved of his going after the guy who snatched her hat), and there she is calling him a psychopath. I want a Rusev/Ambrose buddy cop movie. They can leave Lana and Renee home. The guys are fun, but their SO's are complete wet blankets.

Seriously! I mean, they know we all remember those dresses, right? Who do they think they're fooling here?

If the show were to go the orphaned refugee child route, it wouldn't be about them being able to afford one method or the other. That is most certainly not the only consideration there.

If they insist on making Rick and Maya obsessed with "Babies! Babies! Babies!" maybe they can have them realize that, while their one (almost) genetic child is a blessing, there are so many children out there who need a loving family. If the show wants to be topical, have them look into adopting an orphaned refugee child. It would be more interesting to watch them go through the frustration and struggles of adoption than to watch them try to figure out ways to have more babies born of Nicole's eggs and/or uterus.

How the fuck is a Zende/Nicole wedding "the wedding of the decade"?? The hell? Whoever wrote that blurb should be immediately fired and publicly shamed. And what is Katie going to confess to Brooke about her "relationship" with Eric? That she's a nosy-ass bitch who can't keep her eyes on her own paper and can't be without a man? Everyone knows that already, Katie. Everyone knows.

What are you doing to me here, show? I eat lunch when you're on! Am I the only one who snarked "is that Hope's old ring" during the "romantic" proposal scene today? Don't do it, Quinn. Don't fall for this shit. And the cherry on the shit sundae was damn Katie barging in like she owns the place, all "am I interrupting something?" Well, isn't that what you were hoping when you just decided to walk into someone else's house? And you don't even come bearing the pathetic excuse of some little doo dad you just happened to "find" that belongs to Eric this time. And, of course, now that Katie is going to be like a dog with a bone about there being something up with Ridge and Quinn (because we all know she will be), does anyone think that she'll spare a thought as to how this could all affect her sister? Is she going to plan another little party where she can drop the bomb about her Quinn/Ridge suspicions in a way that is the most devastating to Eric and Brooke?

There is no way in hell she'll look that classy. I'm so confused by today's scenes. Does the show think this is some grand romantic reunion of two star-crossed lovers? Because, show? I have a memory. She was always second choice. Always. The only reason she's his "great love" now is because Hope isn't in town, and Waffles can't go without an adoring female for more than two seconds.

The running! Dear God, the running is back! JMW cannot run like an actual human being. I can't be the only one who, when they kept shifting back and forth between shots of Liam in his car and Steffy in hers, hoped "yes, let them crash into each other and die!!"? I give these two five minutes before one or the other starts getting bored and wondering about someone else. What was with the camera work on those Quinn/Ridge scenes? I felt like a dizzy stalker watching them.

I honestly do not understand why they keep inviting their brother anywhere.

I'll just agree to disagree.

I don't find that many people hate Charlotte like that. Yes, she's a heel, but she's a pretty popular heel. This is the only WWE related forum I frequent, but my son is very big into it, and he reads a lot of fan forums, and he says his reading backs up the responses we've seen for her in arenas. A quick look at social media shows that Nattie has more followers than the other active women I looked on Twitter at Nattie, Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, Lana, Maryse, Eva, Bayley, Carmella, Alexa, and Mickie. She has close to double the next highest number of followers among those women. I'm not saying she's more popular than all of them, but from every reaction that I can see, she's not unpopular. She's simply misused. If they put her in a good story, she'd be hugely popular. She has the talent, fans like her, and she has the Hart pedigree. Them not using her right isn't a reflection of what fans want/like, it's just them being short-sighted because she's not as "hot" or young as some of the other women. And that's no slight on the other women, except Eva, who they really need to just give up.

I'm not sure what you mean by "not on TV," because the shows I've been to where she's gotten good crowd response have been Smackdown/Raw/PPV shows. I mean, she's not getting the kind of reaction you hear when, say, Cena's music first starts, or when AJ or Finn come out, but she's getting crowd reaction. My general impression of the audience's feelings towards her is that they like her, but wish she was used better. I was at one of her matches against Charlotte, and the crowd was straight up pissed that Nattie didn't win.

There's something about Renee that is starting to grate. I laughed when, right after her talking head gushing about how Dean is her other half, we get her bitching about them essentially having nothing in common. And she always likes to mention in her talking heads that he's the champ. I can see it once, when she did it at the start of the season since that was her introduction as a regular cast member, but she keeps mentioning it. And her attitude on the trip stunk. If you don't want to feel like a third wheel, then don't go. Spend some time at home with your "other half." My son and I laughed at two points in her scenes in this one. First, when she said Dean would lose his mind over the "twin deer" (and, seriously, twin deer?), because he does not strike either of us as the type who loses his mind over seeing a deer. Second, after he said he had booked the trip to Big Sur, I said that. after he hung up, he was probably like "well, crap, now I need to book a trip to Big Sur." I think it's because she realizes how ridiculous most of her scenes are.

Honestly, at the live shows I've been to, Nattie has always gotten a really good crowd response. I'm sure part of it is the Hart name, but she definitely gets a reaction. The Brie/Nikki dynamic is weird. I think there is definitely some competition there (more on Brie's part than Nikki's). I think it drives Brie nuts that Nikki leads the kind of life where she can drop money on whatever new thing she wants, and Brie cannot do that, because while she and Bryan aren't poor, they're not in Cena's league, and Bryan, even if they had that money, would not approve of that kind of spending. I said when we were watching, when Brie was talking about how other people were getting pregnant, and she still isn't, "could you imagine how Brie would react if Nikki and John had ended up with an 'oops!' pregnancy before she got pregnant?" She would hate Nikki for it. It would not have been pretty. As it is, I'm kind of dreading the episodes (probably on the next season of Total Bellas?) after Brie finds out she's pregnant. I think she'll find little ways to rub it in Nikki's face. And I think that goes back to the competitive thing. Brie, for whatever reasons, feels like the one thing she has "over" Nikki is that Bryan married her and wants kids with her. So she sometimes likes to rub that in, and it's always so icky when she does.

They must be planning to reunite Brooke and Bill. Otherwise, they're insane to keep showing them together. That moment between them outside her door, before he walked away? There was WAY more chemistry in that moment than anything Brooke and Ridge have done. If Bridge is their endgame, then they're really shooting themselves in the foot to allow us to keep seeing the superior chemistry in Brill.

Fair enough. The rest of my points stand. She's not overstepping the bounds that Eric has established.

I can easily foresee a situation where Liam eventually brags to Bill about how he and Ridge are going to take Quinn down. Bill gets more details out of him, realizes that Ridge is playing this flirting game with Quinn, and he ends up taking down Ridge. I just hope that it doesn't end up written as Bill somehow being the "bad guy who hurt Brooke" by busting Ridge's little game wide open. But she's not overstepping her bounds, really. Eric has put her in a position to make decisions at the company, so the stuff she does there is in the boundaries Eric has established. He's also told her that his home is her home, and he's invited her son to live there, calling him part of their family. And, she's married to the guy, in a community property state. For all intents and purposes, what's his is hers. So, legally, and according to what Eric has said to her, requested of her, and given to her, she's not overstepping her bounds. She's exactly within the boundaries that Eric has willingly established. I also don't see her actively trying to antagonize his family. She has asked, multiple times, that they accept her place in his life, a request he's also made to his family multiple times. I admittedly miss an episode here and there, but, from what I've seen, the antagonism has come from his family towards her, not the other way around. I think they were more proxies in Taylor vs. Brooke. Those two were just rehashing their Ridge bullshit via their daughters instead of taking a step back and saying "wait, do I want my daughter to be in the same shitty back and forth with a waffler that I've spent decades suffering through?"

This show is definitely not ready to move her into that kind of role. Not to the extent of being an Alice from Days, Myrtle from AMC kind of character. She's still more Erica Kane.