Well I guess that's why I asked about what people find surprising because Rickon dying during the battle is pure Ramsay so when I read he didn't kill right away, I figured that's what he would do with him. And Jon being proclaimed KITN was super predictable too in my mind, it's basically fantasy 101. And I like fantasy tropes just fine since the fun for me is the characters involved feeling like real people and being invested in them. We just clearly don't find the same things surprising. Margeary being super pious to get her way is completely in character, and what else were Yara and Theon going to do after running away if not to foil their uncle's plans. These are good story beats, I just don't find them surprising and that's due to good characterisation and consistency, which I like. What I understand as a "reveal" is something is not overt or explicitly discussed enough (in universe but also sometimes out) that you know about it or even wonder unless you are questioning everything. Yara and Theon are not hiding what their plan is, they lost, stole a bunch of boats and coincidently, there is a queen that just lost a bunch of boats. It did not feel like much of a leap. Same with Margeary, she's locked up with a radical crazy person, we've seen how she handles crazy people (Joffrey); she pretends to share their delusions. So why would it be surprising for her to put on the faithful act? And she didn't convert, this was always her religion! A character thing that surprised and I considered a reveal was Yara being at the very least bisexual, that's a reveal to me because I never thought about it so reading it was like uncovering something new, that is revealing about her character.
Um no that wasn't what I was saying, these were just what seemed to be the biggest reaction causing reveals in the recaps I read. I was asking in terms of the show, but was trying to establish that some things would obviously be less unexpected if I considered as options. As I said above, Rickon's death and how Ramsay would use him seemed obvious to me and Clegane Bowl never held any interest for me, how surprised could I be if there are only two options and I didn't have an investment in either account. And actually until they telegraphed his return, I was sure the Hound was dead in the show. I was extremely surprised when they brought him up. As for Arya's storyline, I was only surprised that it took this long. I had read somewhere that Walder Frey was back so I figured she would kill him since she was due back in Westeros soon. I just found it weird how long it took and how many episodes she was in, I just assumed she would be in the premier and three episodes max. But hey, MW got that Emmy nomination and she's defintely one of my favourite actors for this show so yay for her.
1. That's wrong, other people spoke for me and you never got a confirmation from me so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?
2. I came here because the people in this group had a higher of knowing the same things that the host knew. I can't ask non book readers if they are as surprised as a book reader that had more information and opportunity to see things coming. Westeros.org seemed less appropriate because a lot of posters have exhausted all possibilities and scenarios so that would have been less indicative, I thought.
3. I think I can live with people not giving a shit whether I watch the show or not. Sorry, but I am not exactly turning in my sleep about people liking the show. I haven't had time to catch up on Silicon Valley, much less GOT. I only had time to read recaps during my commute.
4. The reveals I mentioned were specifically in terms of the show because my question was prompted by a comment that the host found the show exciting again because he felt he had no idea what would happen next, so of course I'm not talking about them in terms of what they mean for the books. If I cared about the show spoiling the books or whatever, I wouldn't fucking read recaps. I read them because I wanted to know what happened with the character I am invested in, heard good things that made me want to watch the show again (and saw an absolutely adorable gif of Sansa and Jon hugging but that's neither here nor there) but didn't have the time to watch it. That is a possibility, as apparently foreign the idea is to you.
5. I don't to have explain myself, but should I want a circle jerk of people telling me I am right to not watch show, first of all I wouldn't even have listened to BLAH because they love the show. Second of all, I wouldn't come on a TV FORUM that is mainly dedicated to the show with the books being discussed in context of the show. So either I have a genuine question or I'm a fucking moron with zero social cues. You seem unable to consider the former and seem to think the latter so let's just agree to...just not. If anyone else feels the same way, feel free to ignore and/or block me. K, thanks.