TheFinalRose

Lamb18, thank you for elevating the discussion tonight with a rare nod to Leslie Howard.

So we've had two episodes with the house sitting around talking about Thomas. Not even a one on one date in this episode. Uh, except for Blake sitting on the bench talking to Katie, so I guess that was the one on one. There must be nothing going on this season and the editors have to stretch the episodes out and make something out of nothing.

Did they say it was midnight? I would want to get sent home just to have a regular circadian rhythm.

Thomas (is that the bad guy?) doesn't blink very much.

Blake looks like he's studied the Nick Viall Method For Becoming the Next Bachelor.

Blake's hairdo makes me sad. I don't get it.

Tayisha is always saying "it's a lot."

OMG. They gave Katie a Lunchable from the vending machine and put it under that dome!

Why would you enjoy seeing these guys gasping for relief and having tears coming out of their eyes from discomfort? "It was so much fun!" Where is Katie's empathy? Just hahahahaha!

This date is CRINGE. Mike handled it well but why did I have to sit through that?

Acho was great. I thought it was especially sensitive for Matt to be able to speak to another black man at this time. As we all know, Chris Harrison doesn't get it and I can't see how having him there would have ever worked, especially seeing how broken Matt seems. Now I'm worried about Matt. Getting out of the spotlight and "never seeing these people again" as Acho kept promising, seems like a good move right now.

She's not really on trial. Just a few uncomfortable questions. She has been bullied and harassed for months now and I think her composure and humility here will not give the bullies any more fuel for the fire. I think she did very well. I've always felt for her and hoped that she was all right in the midst of everything that went on.

It's better for Rachel to be put on trial in front of America and take it well. That's all she can hope for at this point and I think she is doing very well. I know it is uncomfortable but it's better to go through it. Maybe it's good for Matt to see that she still loves him even though the circumstances are not good. And what is all this "If you never see him again" commentary. It's Bachelor Nation! In 2022 Rachel and Matt will probably both be headlining Bachelor in Paradise.

Me neither. It was spot on.

Oh no! MIchelle said "I'm not in love anymore" and Matt is probably thinking "Mom was right! Love dies!"

Not seeing Michelle for the two minutes, added to the rude and quick way he walked out of their last date makes it look like he just used her and was over her and had no interest or empathy for what she was going through.

The red turtleneck was an odd choice. Perhaps Matt styled him?

That was a very awkward ending .... to be followed by a very awkward ATFR.

Walking through those leaf piles in those shoes? Matt is just not worth it.

Matt: I don't know what I'm going to do. Suggestion: Find a good therapist who will teach you how to separate your life from your mom and dad's mistakes.

That was cold-blooded.

Matt will be fifty years old and single because every time he brings someone home his mom will cry and say "But love dies..." I hope they can see what's happening in their dynamic when they watch this back.

Whoa I think Matt's mom is just another version of Pilot Pete's mom Barb in the "sabotage your son" department in order to keep him for herself.

Ugh will someone tell Matt that the minister isn't waiting on set after the engagement????

Matt's mom is a bit of a downer and she's scaring Matt off. Doesn't she know that these are faux-engagements, especially on The Bachelor???