TheFinalRose

Won't someone tell Gabby that production probably told Erich to check in with Gabby and tell her how he's feeling and they would write the little card to tell her to come out of her room? It's not worth dumping Mr. True Love over production shenanigans!!

Johnny got out pretty easily. He looks relieved? Not too broken up.

Tino is sweating bullets. This is hard to watch. Director, please yell cut and mop him off!

Tino gives me bad vibes. His family visit was almost as bad as Hannah Brown's visit to Jed's--actually worse because Jed's family had some snark to go along with their stink eyes while Tino's family had stink eyes and bad style and no entertaining snark.

Rachel to start crying in 3..2...1 followed by her saying I don't know why I am the Bachelorette.

The wrinkles on Gabby's morning after outfit! Is there no wardrobe or production assistant to steam them out for five minutes before the cameras start rolling?

This has to be their couple name. At least until next week, when we get the US Magazine exclusive on how, despite fighting for their relationship, it's over. I think ABC really thought that they owed Clay-en some redemptive arc, and they paid Susie to do this. She agreed, but drew the line at the fake engagement.

Jake and Vienna at least got to the Final Rose Ceremony with a veneer of affection/love. Their breakup, and I agree with you that it was AWESOME TV, still came months after the season was over.

Worst. Ending. Ever.

But, Jesse, we don't want Clay-en to be happy right now. We don't want to see him and Susie fighting for it. Or is he with Teddi? Or did he call up Sarah? As a viewer I don't care.

I feel like it's over. I wish she would have said, Can I walk you out?

I am rooting for Susie to ice him out at what hopefully will be the most dramatic final rose ceremony ever. If he still thinks he's going to propose to Susie after the little she has given him in the past few days then we also have to diagnose Clay-en with delusion.

Clay-en is just a good old-fashioned liar.

Clay-en got an apology script from the ABC health services psychologist.

Gabby looks so cute with her shoulders covered. Did they do Dementer sound effects of his heavy breathing when he walked up the stairs?

His fight for this love is sounding gaslight-y to me. Wait, she blanked the parents? WOW.

You are a good human. Boom. Bye Clay-en!

An evening with Clay-en has me humming that Taylor Swift line: Casually cruel in the name of being honest. Additionally, the phrase: Bull in a china shop. Also: Moron. I'm totally in camp Susie here: If you are thinking about marrying someone, it's character-revealing to see them in difficult situations without the added help of telling them exactly how you want them to act in said situation, which was basically Clay-en's complaint against Susie.. A man worth having will impress you. A doofus will show you and you can make your escape. Notice that we didn't see Gabby actually agree to come back to the rose ceremony? I think that's because the producers stepped in, offered her The Bachelorette to stay and finish out the show. They have had one person left standing after fantasy suites (Des' season for instance) but that person didn't know. They had to bribe Gabby because now Rachel was sprawled on the floor thinking she was the winner and they were going to have to deal with that problem too. The best line of the night (besides you screwed the pooch) was Gabby telling Clay-en that exploring other relationships didn't mean I'm okay with you saying ILY and sleeping with all of them. Also, what was that temper tantrum Clay-en was having at the end there with his parents regarding Susie. His parents were trying to talk sense into him that it's a two-way street and she's in her car happily driving away. But Clay-en kept insisting that she left because he put her in the limo, forgetting that Susie walked away from the dinner table first and was done then. So this is Clay-en when someone says no to him. Can you imagine what being married to him would be like when you couldn't put him first for some legitimate reason?

The deed was already done with someone, er, both of them. Susie didn't want a fiance that slept with two different women in the past 48 hours and she certainly didn't want any intimate moments with him knowing she'd be the third in three days. And it seemed to be that Clay-en didn't want to talk, he wanted to talk her into it being okay and she wasn't interested in giving him a couple of hours to rationalize it. I'm okay with Susie getting the Bachelorette gig. They gave the gig to Katie, setting a very low bar. Also, I think Susie is the kind of lead that will get the guys totally falling all over themselves for her.

Luke from Hannah's season was all kinds of problematic. But he and Hannah did have the conversation during hometowns about the fantasy suites exclusivity angle, and how Luke felt about it. So when he brought up the topic at the dinner table, he thought they were on the same page. Clay-en saying I thought Susie was Sarah-ing me is probably the worst excuse. How come he was nicer to Sarah than he was to Susie then? I think his rage erupted when he lost his decision-making power and Susie was suddenly the one deciding whether or not the relationship continued. Jessie must have forgotten to instill in Clay-en the Bachelor canon that anyone who doesn't want to accept a rose or doesn't want to forgo their individual room to stay as a couple in the fantasy suite, is free to do so.

I'm really surprised that Clay-en has gone dark and didn't issue the standard Bachelor-speak apology for his actions last night. I suspect that during filming, the producers egged him on to take his walls down and express his love and explore the relationships in their private time. Maybe he even said but won't it look bad to say ILY and then reject them? They then fed him the standard line that it's all part of the process and part of the journey and each finalist knows that they are risking heartbreak at the end. So go for it! And Clay-en stupidly believed them, because that anger he was directing at the producers last night was meant for them, and it had the feel of someone who did something stupid when he knew it might be stupid but he disregarded his gut feelings and took their advice, which was purposely meant to create drama and not help him or any of the finalists have a happy ending. What a mess. Anyway, my point is, it doesn't look good to be hiding out from social media when the Bachelor nation is on fire and you set the fire.

When was Susie supposed to give him this ultimatum? I think Susie was experiencing the classic case of only figuring out how you truly feel when you are in the middle of a situation. The closer you get to the decision point, the more you understand your feelings. That's how people make what look like snap decisions, but they aren't really snap decisions, they are building up to a point when everything else falls away and you know exactly where you stand and what doesn't work anymore. And in the midst of this crazy show, I think Susie made a good decision that the way she would know she could trust Clay-ens real feelings for her would be if he abstained from man-whoring. And whoops! He. Did. Not. The way he switched and turned this on her--he ain't coming back from this. He threw her in the limo for having the AUDACITY to choose for herself what she wanted out of a fiance. The only appropriate ending now is for Jesse to say "this is going to change everything. Shanae is BACK and she's your surprise F1."

Bob Guiney literally charmed the pants off those ladies. I think he held the record for the highest "score" score for a while and may still hold it. If there was a Wikipedia for that sort of thing I could reference and know for sure. Anyway, I thought it was refreshing that back in the ye old early days of this franchise they rewarded someone the lead for his personality rather than his abs. As for Flapjacks, we have to blame Ashley for dragging him along to F2 and letting him propose before dumping him, thus triggering outrage and the major sympathy energy that landed him the lead. On Ashley's season he was an inoffensive heartbroken victim, but as the lead, Flapjacks was rude and not easy on the eyes with his unkempt messy hair. His obsession with Courtney who was portrayed as a villain (I thought she was hilarious) didn't leave the viewers with cuddly warm heart emoji feelings either. I think Flapjacks has managed to retain his worst-hair-ever status to this day (although Clay-en is giving him a run for his money this season with those tight little 1950s grandma curls). IMO Flapjacks was pretty bad. Clay-en's weenie crying act, and the ease with which he was played by Shana-na and the producers, has him right up there with Pilot Pete for being one of the lamest leads ever. And that's just based on his crying on Michelle's season, his freak-out on the date with Serene, and the previews. We haven't even endured the full assault of the crying that is yet to come in the next episodes and the finale. At least Jason Mesnick cried only once and did it because he realized he had made a mistake.

I can't help but wonder if Clay-en dumped Serene because her family's circumstances were much more humble than the other three? That and the fact that he looked like a weenie on his date with her crying and freaking out at the heights challenges. Was Clay-en on the toilet or what? He was right there! Yes. Like he got a perm before hometowns.

THANK YOU for saying this. She looked totally bizarre... like a real puppy dog. That was so weird. Where did she get it? Why did she pack it? Couldn't she tell she looked like a wanna-be bride? Genevieve for the win this episode. Considering that she was probably suffering from both jet lag and post-actress accusal syndrome she did not fake emote once on this whole episode. I hope she realizes that her instinct to self-protect via silence during the fake therapy skit will serve her well throughout her life, as real life does not require you to spill your innermost thoughts and feelings on a constant loop like this show does. Amen to all of this. There are so many better-looking, more camera-friendly rejects in Bachelor nation and they picked this guy who has zero going for him. You can tell too that he's not really having that much of an effect on these women because the limo melt-downs are just not happening. And whether or not Susie ends up as the F1, she'll be able to make way more money than Clay-en when this is over as an influencer. These women do not need a man to buy them designer gowns--she'll be able to afford them on her own. It's really ridiculous how much money they make on Instagram. Teddy is so cute and she left with such dignity. Hopefully we will see her on BIP.