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From what I've seen and read I guess it was supposed to premiere sometime in January, but got pushed back for some reason.

I'm so excited for this new soap as I'm here for Tamara Tunie!! She's an amazing actress and I've missed her on the soaps(and TV in general) and I was especially excited when I found that Beyond The Gates is produced by the same company that did ATWT (As The World Turns) to which Tamara had been on for years. That said her character sounds very interesting! And here's some news for the show it will be premiering February 24th, 2025 on CBS at 2pm (ET)

It’s so hard writing for myself honestly when I know the few people who seem to love my couple (Gemma/Nero) doesn’t write for them at all and doesn’t at least to me feel like they love the couple as much as I do and I have really nothing to inspire me to write more or nothing much to really drawl off of. Sometimes it’s like why even bother writing anymore. 😭 On that note I did write and post up a new one shot today I wrote for Gemma/Nero which will most likely be my last one for them in terms of one shots for real, but no comments at all....figures it's so frustating and disappointing 😭

Yeah Sons has been off the air officially for almost 10 years now(December of this year It'll be 10 years, it ended in 2014) and it's been off TV for like 2 years I think maybe 3 max and I think a lot of the fandom doesn't seem to have the DVD's either that or they've forgotten about a lot of what happened and a lot of spaces for the show aren't as active as they once were either, but I don't really go into a lot of the discussion spaces because of the Gemma hate and more personal issues that I won't get into on here. That all said I realize Sons isn't exactly a romantic type of show, but I can't help that I got into the couple I did (Gemma/Nero) and that they are a rare pairing (I really wish they weren't) just for the simple of the hate they get in the fandom it just sucks for me because I'm the only that seems to love them so much and is trying to keep them alive especially now. I got into Sons about 5 years after it went off the air so that didn't help any honestly, but the hate for Gemma herself is still so strong that I'm still shocked by it and I have to admit the hate for Gemma/Nero I'll never understand because they are and were a beautiful and great couple that had everything in their relationship, communication, love, stability, passion and mad real chemistry it was so real to me that I forgot they were just acting and it's rare to get that type of chemistry and passion from a TV couple like that in my experience. The only good thing I guess for Gemma/Nero is that they became canon, but it also wasn't fast enough for me and once they did well they were doomed from then on although even before that they had too much stacked them so in reality from the begining of their relationship to the end (I'll never believe they broke up though I meant the end of the show) They are my top couple I ship/love and I think out of all of the couples I love/ship and I have a lot of them Gemma/Nero have had it the worst.

You aren't kidding about that and not only that it's even worse when the couple you love is hated in the fandom and by the majority and that's my other problem with my top rare pair couple I love so much.

Yeah I watched for them and still do. They are a strong couple they've been through a lot in canon, but they also are treated quite good, but it probably helps that both actors who play them are basically executive producers on the show so I think they have a bit of says in what their characters do and stuff like that. I'm not saying they don't have any issues in their relationship, they do, but they definitely aren't Gemma/Nero who got treated like total dirt where as Bobby & Athena were basically a first couple (they were paired together in s1 and went on from there) so with them it's...better and they are more popular especially in fanfics at first they weren't, but over the years they've slowly gotten to that point honestly I can't help, but be jealous and wanted that type of thing for Gemma/Nero because they got the opposite in everyway sadly and unfortunately. It's really shocking and amazing just how different couples can be on shows/in canon and how different of treatment they can get.

The fandom is 9-1-1 and the couple is Bobby & Athena As for the second things yeah that's exactly right...

I don't know if I'll ever feel comfortable reading fics on them becuase they have it all in canon- got married, have fun, go on vacations, and they have their own family together and so on.. This is my problem along with my other show being off the air although the fandom itself isn't dead especially in fanfics, but my couple itself is basically dead and really always has been although like I've said I'm writing them, but it's not easy shipping/love rare pairs all the time that's all I've gotta say.

Well I'm a multi fandom shipper as well and yes your statement is probably why I feel this way about everything for this couple happening so there's really nothing to write about in fanfics which is basically true for them, but I didn't realize that at first and why I felt this way after trying to read some stories on them although I do still think it's still kind of weird because I've never had this happen to me ever before now, but the more I thought about it, the more I think that's definitely it. Now I have the filters on the couple on ao3 ready if ever wanted to read fics on this couple, but that's about it. 🤷‍♀️

Does anyone have a case where they love/ship a couple/pairing, but they can't read fanfics about them? I have this issue with a couple I love and ship in a fandom and it's so weird because this has never happened to me before. I've tried reading several fics on these two and I just can't get through them and I usually end up just reading the comments people leave.

Ouch that has to suck about your pairings!! What's also tough for me is that SOA has been off the air for basically 10 years now. Yeah Gemma was married as well, but that's not why she's so hated though it's basically because of the things she did in canon and her personality and Nero is hated by association because of his involvement with Gemma so that's why I'm pretty sure they are hated for. Gemma/Nero as I've probably mentioned before are a couple canon, but just barely because they were treated like total dirt.

I'm glad you have a popular couple to write for because it beats mine that isn't and the issue of why I don't like how they write Gemma is because she was and is still so hated in the fandom by the majority and I think the reason why that is is because how she was actually written in canon which I hate because to me I saw her as a human being not a moster, yes she did horrible things and she was extremely a lot of the times and for good reasons a lot of the times, but I looked at her from a different perceptive and how most of the people write her is very different from how I actually saw her...basically there was more to her than what we saw in canon and on screen is what I'm trying to say. As for Gemma/Nero again I've only found like maybe 3 writers who i like/love how they've written them as a couple - well two at the moment, but the 1 I like how they have written Gemma so far in their stories and I think I'll like how they write Gemma/Nero as well as soon as they do whenever that is. It's really tough writing for Gemma/Nero because well they are hated anyway Gemma as a character and Nero is hated by association so either way I'm really out of luck finding much of anyone who loves them as much as I do or who agrees with me on them much, but yes I have at least find a few, but it's honestly not enough for me, but I'm trying to deal with that as much as I can. I hate the SOA fandom as a whole as well so that's another issue I've never been a fandom that deals with a hated character like they do with Gemma the hate is on another level. I understand hating a character, but they take it more than I've ever seen and I'm still shocked by it. I know they say if a character is hated this much in a fandom that the actor/actress has done their job, but I still hate it and don't think it's right or fair to put all the hate on that one character when all of the characters did horrible things on the show that's what I have a problem with in terms of these Gemma haters because they put all of the horrible names and what she did on her and don't blame any of the other characters for doing stuff and even the same things she did and horrible things to other people it's always her that's thrown under the bus in the fandom, everyone else gets passes, but her no(and I don't even give her passes either, but I also don't deny what she did and who she was and I don't deny the other characters did horrible things like the fandom does and they also spin their own lies about Gemma as well a lot of it isn't even true about her and they also blame her for things that happened when she wasn't even there at that time or didn't know about it, it's horrible how she's treated and that's what I mean I have a problem with) that said it's not so much the hate because I get it even if I don't agree with it, but the fact they take it to another level you know?(see above) I don't think the SOA fandom will ever change the fans are set in their ways for Gemma herself and Gemma/Nero and it's really sad and frustrating for me and the majority of the fandom will always be shipping the two main couples I hate with a passion and always hate Gemma herself as a character I'm still shocked when I find out there are fans of hers and Gemma/Nero, but they are both few and far between in my case, it's like the majority of the fandom wasn't watching the same show as I was. Like your couple Gemma/Nero also got a very very sad ending as well so I did a one shot changing that and went a different route because I hated how it ended for her and Gemma/Nero. Plus I wanted to do a plot like that for a while and so I finally did, it helped me cope a little bit what happened in canon so I guess that's something, but I'll never forget what happened. I do have a passion to writing for Gemma/Nero it's just...hard and frustrating everyday because I need more inspiration and motivation than I actually get which is barely anything from even the few people in the fandom I talk with and a lot of the times I don't even know what keeps me writing for them.

Okay thank you. That's unfortunate.

Hi, I have a question. I tried uploading an animated icon to my profile and it said I wasn't allowed to is this is a bug? or it really not allowed. I'm also confused because it says gif images are allowed on here.

I'm glad your writing is going well too. As for mine I have all the time in the world to write it's just like I said the encouragment and motivational factors that I can't seem to get over and as I've mentioned to you several times already Gemma/Nero are so hated in the fandom and no one is writing for them at all anymore and if they do it's just one shots and it's like every once and awhile honestly I don't think anyone wants to write about them and I don't think they love them as much as I do, but at the same time even though I want new stories on them I don't like how the majority of the fandom writes them as a couple to me it's not them if that makes sense and if you know what I mean and I also don't like how they write Gemma either they write her like she was a monster and she wasn't at all so I've become very extremely picky about how I think she and Gemma/Nero should be written over the years so it really depends for me on whether I'll read a Gemma/Nero fic nowadays and in my opinion I think my version of Gemma herself and especially Gemma/Nero is the best because I write them how I think they should be written meaning I saw them as just a regular couple (although I have to admit it is hard writing them normally sometimes not gonna lie and I write Gemma as a human being, plus she was different when she was around and with Nero anyway). For Gemma/Nero I've written a few episode fics one shots for them and plus some non post-it episode fics too. I've only found maybe one to two people that I like how they write Gemma and Gemma/Nero (although the second one hasn't really written for them just yet, but appearently is going to) Of course SOA is a dead show now, but in the fanfic world it's still very active, but not how I'd like it to be and I don't think that'll ever change sadly for me.