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I'm not saying Kris turned Bruce into anything, my point I was trying to make was, that Bruce by virtue of his appearance on this show, and the way he has been portrayed on the show, is the reason that this particular show is not the forum for him IMO, to chronicle his journey. I can't begin to imagine what he has gone through before coming to this decision. I give him all the credit in the world and wish him peace and happiness in the future. I just wish/hope it wI'll be aired on/in a more serious and dignified place than a superficial entertainment channel and the pages of celebrity gossip magazines .

Bruce has contributed to the castrated hubby aspect of his portrayal on the show. From his banishment to a small area of the garage to enjoy his helicopter, To Kris' s control of his credit card, her over ruling him with regard to the younger girls use of make up and revealing clothing, the fit she threw over a putting green and the numerous comments over the series by all the kids about how his balls are in Kris's possession. IMO, the fact that he finally has made the decision to cut ties with Kris and move forward with this literally life altering process and his choice to share it with the world, is something that deserves to be presented in a forum a couple levels above storylines about smelly vagina contests, camel toe and un housebroken dogs. Sorry but I don't know if I can take it as seriously as I should, ...in the back of my mind I'll keep envisioning the final shot being Bruce and the rest of the women all glammedup and posing with pouted lips and exposed cleavage. I doubt that is what Bruce intends but it's the only image any reference to this family conjures up. His own family is talking to People magazine and making comments to the press about this journey. The two members of the family who crave publicity the most. Hard to believe they really have Bruce's best interest at heart.

Kris probably thought this would draw the attention from the news about Bruce. She's got the Kim/Kanye fertility drama, Kylie's possible pregnancy and now Kendall and Scott fooling around stories in all the gossip rags... I think she's desperate to overshadow his "journey"

They are divorced now. I think her part should be minimal. Perhaps a few comments or remarks from her are appropriate but having her there with a big old joker grin and blathering about him being her best friend isn't necessary, nor do I think it's true. I can't believe she could be even remotely happy about it. It blows apart the whole fantasy she's created about their family. I think she would have vastly preferred Bruce move out to Malibu and continue with the fiction she tried to pass off on the public, that they were happily married and just needed "space".. Despite the attention the Kardashians can bring, IMO any good it does is far outweighed by the famewhore, shallow, self centered lives they lead (in particular, Kris and Kim, the others to a slightly lesser degree). I can't imagine anything Kim could say that would sound remotely sincere coming from that frozen, robotic manner of speaking, all the while she tries to get a glimpse of how she looks in the reflection of the camera lens.

I really wish him well. I think he is a good person. I just hope the Kardashian connection in his docuseries is minimal. Watching Kim preen and pose and try and express some kind of emotion on that botoxed face is more than I can bear.

The only one with balls left in the family. Pimp Mama.

My mom had 8 kids and there were times she said that she'd go to the bathroom, when she'd open the door to leave there would be a pile of little kids laying on the floor outside room waiting for her. I recall a few times when we were out of school for storms or such and she'd have heard "Mom, Mommy, Ma!!!" a million times and she would say jokingly "someday I'm going to change my name and not tell you what it is" Then there were days when she'd play spa day with us and she would lay on the couch and a bunch of us would rub her feet, arms and legs with lotion and others would give her new hair styles (on different sides of her head!!) and she would have to decide who did it better. It was always a TIE!! I don't recall her ever making us feel as if we were a burden or that it was a bother to take care of us. Many times the vacuuming and the cleaning didn't get done because we got her involved in our games or had her take us to the library or in the yard for a picnic. She enjoyed being a mom. Does Kate ever enjoy being a mom? I haven't seen it yet.

Interesting coincidence I heard this morning... the helicopter news pilot who followed OJ's Bronco in the slo-mo chase years ago and another well known helicopter news pilot both changed genders (male to female) years later. Bruce has been associated with helicopters most of his adult life and is supposedly considering the same change. Kind of interesting.

And divorced, and remarried and divorced.. maybe a baby or two along the way.

Kou Kourt's talked about how she wouldn't even speak to Bruce for a long time when he first got involved with Kris. Kris talks about how Kourt only wore black clothing for a long time in rebellion against her relationship with Bruce. They made her go to a therapist over it (the relationship, not the clothing!!). I don't; think she minds her kids having a relationship with Bruce, he seems to be good with them and why deny them someone who loves them. But I don't see a close bond between her and Bruce like there seems to be with Khloe and Bruce. She also probably has much more of a memory of life with Rob Sr and Kris together than Khloe has, therefore a stronger sense of loyalty to Rob Sr, and there's Kris' infidelity which she kind of flaunted in front of the kids, which could account for her seeming deep resentment of her mother. OF course she is very low key and emotionless with a lot of people, so maybe I'm reading her wrong. I think a trip inside Kourtney's head and heart would be very interesting. She's very complex.

Every time I see the Entertainment Tonight commercial with Kim in her white dress giving that frozen face grimace she calls a smile and a little wave of her hand I crack up. She totally looks like a robotic doll.

Kim will make sure she looks like the devoted daughter for the publicity part of it. I've always had the impression that Kourtney accepted Bruce as Kris's husband. but doesn't see him as a parent. I think ROb Sr and KRis' divorce hit her very hard and she took a long time to come to grips with it. So I don't believe her seeming indifference to Bruce is because of any changes he is going thru, I think its more than he's no longer Kris's husband and therefore her connection to him is broken. I just don't think there was ever any great love for him on her part. She's always been standoffish too him. Khloe I think will stick by him

That was on Kris' watch. Bruce was trying to take a stronger position with Kendall and Kylie when they were pre/young teens, but Kris shut him down. Instead of putting his foot down and demanding that Kris back him, he wussed out and stuck to playing with his helicopters.

My sympathy for Bruce can only go so far. I can't see how he can even expect to have his "journey" taken seriously, if he has Kim posing and posturing in full glam make up and hair, wearing of course "Balmain" (spelling) and her fuck me face, sitting on the couch with him. If he keeps it to him and his bio kids and Jenner relatives, and how they react, maybe it could be an interesting story. But watching Kardashians adjust their hair and cleavage and primp and preen? Not so much.

I don't see all the praise for this song. The lyrics are mediocre and I don't find it remotely emotional. The video makes no sense, he's running around like a fool ( what's with the dried white spittle on his bottom lip?) and North looks, as I posted before, like a trained dog looking off camera to her master for her next command.... "Point at daddy's shoes, " make the paparazzi face" etc He claimed he wouldn't whore his kid out to the public and boom he goes and uses her and his dead mom for $$$$ Kanye and Kim perfect famewhore together.

I thought she looked like a trained dog looking off camera at her trainer for commands. Kim must have spent time teaching her to make her "paparazzi" face.

Oh, it stopped developing right around when her tits started to develop. I mean what does a Kardashian/Jenner need with a brain? Perhaps Bruce should put his journey to womanhood on hold until he gets his daughter to adulthood. Doesn't anyone in this family think her behavior is a bit over the top?

I reads somewhere that Kanye was defending Kims reputation as a gold digger, by stating that she "dated plenty of broke black guys". I challenge him to name one... outside of her high school dates.

I thought it strange that Kris supposedly stated that these rumors have been around since 1976. Did she even know Bruce that long ago? And if she had heard them before meeting him years later, wouldn't she have been a bit leary of hooking up with him?

Potty training is no great achievement. Its not difficult if you are prepared to devote time and be vigilant for several days to a week. Of course some parents prefer to wait till the kid pretty much trains itself. But a parent who is tired of shitty diapers can easily train a 18+ month old. Somehow I doubt Kim spends enough time between selfies to make much progress. Now Kourtney? Yeah I see her spending the time and effort.

I went to school with a family of 4 kids who all had a "blaze" of white hair on the left side of their head above the eyebrow. The dad had it too, but not the mom. When they were all together it looked so cool.

Pun intended? Isn't Jeff Tambor doing a show on Amazon about changing genders? Maybe Bruce can get a guest appearance?

Kanye wrote about impregnating Kim's mouth and fucking her on a sink, didn't hear any complaints from Pimp Mama. "Hitting that" won't even cause a blip on her radar.

That was Kim's ass she was looking at. More kids can't come soon enough? A woman who walks around "corset training" to obtain a smaller waist isn't serious about getting pregnant.

There's only room for one pompous arrogant ass at the end of Celebrity Apprentice. And that's Donald Sr. I predict Geraldo will not win. I get an undercurrent of sarcasm from Trump in his comments to Geraldo. And honestly Geraldo looked like a senile Grampa sitting between Kenya and Viveca while they traded barbs.