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I fully believe we're done with Sandbrook because, unlike with the Broadchurch case, Hardy did get a taped confession from Lee. As long as Lee shows no signs of being physically coerced into confessing, then it will stick. Then Ricky nailed the case shut by admitting where Lisa was buried, which the police quickly confirmed. Lisa's body is enough tangible, compelling evidence to get a conviction against Ricky. Lee is doomed by the hair on Pippa's pillow now having an explanation. He's not going to be able to get out from that murder charge. Claire is a little trickier, but at the least they can get her for theft of evidence from police custody which should hold her for a bit. If she reveals the burial spot of Ricky's flask, then she's nailed as a conspirator to manipulate evidence in a murder case. I hadn't thought about how Hardy's going to explain footing the bill for Claire without throwing suspicion on himself. In the end, I doubt the audience would stand for a collapse of the Sandbrook case after what season 2 did to the Broadchurch case. While it's a plausible scenario, there was enough accusation against Chris Chibnall for "ret-conning" series 1 with the series 2 court case that he'd be foolish to do the same with the Sandbrook case and hope to keep the fan loyalty.

Hold up a minute. Ellie did not bribe Lucy. She did not know what information Lucy was going to provide. Bribing is persuading someone to do something in the payor's favor, usually by a gift of money. So by that definition, Ellie would have had to know already that she wanted Lucy to say it was Joe. Ellie knew paying Lucy money was wrong and that it looked like a bribe to the jury, but in her mind it wasn't a bribe and so she wasn't lying. As for Ellie beating up Joe, Sharon's argument wasn't the damage Ellie did, but the fact that it could have covered up an earlier beating by Hardy done to coerce the confession out of Joe. And there is where Hardy made a mistake -- he should have had a second officer with him when he went to arrest Joe. Notice he corrected that when he arrested both Claire (in front of several witnesses) and Lee (taking a fellow officer along). I do agree Jocelyn didn't do her work and ensure everyone was being 100% honest. Nor do I think she and Ben were very thorough about going through the police case files.

Here's a long interview podcast recorded today with Chris Chibnall. The Broadchurch talk starts about 1 hour into it. http://projectorfilms.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/podcast-episode-46-chris-chibnall.html

They could also find a cold case from years ago. That would be justifiable for a small town like Broadchurch. I still want to know if something dramatic happened when Alec and his parents stayed there when he was a child.

I agree. If the interrogation room recording was still running when Ellie went in to see Joe, then it will show he taunted her by announcing he wanted to see Tom. That's when she lost it. Unlike with the criminal case against Joe, Ellie won't come off as just beating him up out of the blue but as a mother reacting to a threat to her child. It's unlikely to happen again (as long as Joe stays away) and since she'd keep the boys in their hometown with the people they've always known and a support network to help her out, she's the more qualified parent to retain sole custody and no visitation rights for Joe.

You mean in episode 3 when Lee visited Hardy's cottage with his own file? I think he really wanted to come home and hoped he could get Hardy to believe someone else did it and arrest them in place of Lee. Don't know if he thought he'd be able to reveal anonymously where Lisa was buried to nail Ricky. Frankly I think he was the most naive of the lot and also the most remorseful of what happened. BTW.. The Sea Brigade did two podcasts for the finale. A short one a few hours after it aired in the UK and a longer one published the following weekend. I absolutely loved these podcasts. Quick reaction podcast from Feb. 23 Longer podcast about episode 8

Hmmm. I'm taking everything Chris Chibnall says with a large grain of salt. Supposedly they shot two endings to series 2 to throw off spoilers. So I can see him trying to misdirect the fans by saying "it won't be about Joe", "it will be a stand-alone case", etc.

Well, I can't see Hardy letting Joe go free any more than he could live with Lee going free in Sandbrook. A major part of series 3 should be about Hardy finding evidence that Joe has hurt/killed someone else and gets him convicted for that crime, even if he can't get him for Danny's murder. And I'd like to see Hardy prove Joe deserves to be behind bars BEFORE Joe is killed so Hardy gets his record as "worst cop in Britain" wiped clean. I want Hardy to rise fully back to the top of his game which can't really happen if Joe is found dead at the start of series 3. BTW, Matthew Gravelle who plays Joe has said he'd love it if Joe was revealed to be a serial killer. And it would be really exciting if Joe was someone who plays psychological games with Hardy, forcing Alec and Ellie to outsmart Joe to get him. Oh and since Joe is from Cardiff, wouldn't it be fun to send David Tennant back to Cardiff to film scenes where Hardy investigates Joe's past? (Cue the Doctor Who tie-ins!)

I agree. If you notice Hardy didn't repeat the mistakes he made with Joe. He had witnesses around him when Claire and Lee were arrested. Did you notice the guy sitting immediately in front of them in the court room listening in as Hardy recited Claire her rights? He turned Claire over to Tess to take to custody and had a second officer enter the cottage to get Lee. The interviews at the police station were recorded including the confessions and Ellie got tangible evidence of Lee's and Ricky's involvement. The three of them can't weasel out of the new trial the way Joe did in Broadchurch. I think we're also done with Sharon except for maybe a mention if Jocelyn comes to visit Maggie in series 3. Sharon's son has no ties to Broadchurch and most importantly no ties to Ellie and Hardy. That to me is the factor of what the focus of series 3 will be -- something that has emotional resonance to Hardy and/or Ellie. The most logical story would be investigating Joe (his past, his modus operandi, and wherever he's ended up) to find another case they can get him convicted of. Getting Joe MIller will be Hardy's new Sandbrook.

Script from series 1, episode 8 just after Ellie has told Tom about Joe's arrest. Ellie: Tom, I have to ask you. Why did you send those threatening emails to Danny? Tom: He said he didn't want to be my friend any more. Said he found a new friend. I was angry. It was Dad, wasn't it? ------------------------------ By the way, if we're going to lambaste Mark for going after Becca, then shouldn't we also go after Hardy for propositioning her to "relax" with him? He was the senior officer on the murder investigation that she was an alibi witness in?

It looked like there would be a gap between June when David gets back and October when the Glasgow movie is to film. That's basically the same time they filmed last year. I know Jodie Whittaker's due to give birth in the next week or so and I think Olivia's due sooner than she's letting on. Joe Simms (Nige) hinted at it by saying he thinks they all (including Andrew Buchan's wife, Amy) got pregnant on a weekend when the spouses visited. Since the filming had onlookers getting somewhat too close last year, I wouldn't be surprised if Chibnall said that to keep people from booking holidays specifically to watch the third series being filmed.

Luckylyn, having seen the last episode, and having lived through that horrible time in southern Ontario, this is NOT going to be like the Bernardo/Holmolka case. Please put that out of your head. It really creeps me out that a few fans have brought that all up again.

I love the call out to Mad Men. Now that it's back and under analysis from fans and critics, I am seeing other ties Broadchurch 2 has to it. Both are heavier on the character study than they are on a constantly advancing plot. That's been infuriating some Broadchurch 1 fans who were hoping for a procedural or linear plot they could follow and look for clues in. Even the Sandbrook case, hasn't released many clear details, but has provided contradicting stories so we don't know for sure what's what. Well, there's lots of that in Mad Men. And maybe it's because I'm a fan of MM that I was happy to look at Broadchurch 2 the same way -- cherishing the symbolism in scenes, parallels in characters and themes in Broadchurch series 2.

Woo hoo! I just discovered that the internet archive cached the TWOP Broadchurch thread on April 19 of last year. I'm catching up there on what was said about series 1. http://web.archive.org/web/20140419204023/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3218197-broadchurch-forbrydelsen-goes-british/

Well, he's not the only one who's chosen to withhold information only to have it come back and bite him/her in the behind. In fact, it's already happened to him when he ended up sitting in jail for a few hours in series 1.

According to this article, there is no filming scheduled for this year on Broadchurch series 3. :( http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/12888497.Broadchurch_proves_a_hit_across_the_Channel_as_5_5million_French_viewers_tune_in_each_week/ (4th last paragraph.) But maybe that's a blinder. I hope.

If you're just catching up with episode 7, don't miss the Sea Brigade podcast for this episode. It catches things you may have missed.

BTW, the reaction to Ellie dressing down Tom when this episode debuted in the UK is still on Twitter. Click this #goEllie and then scroll down to February 9th to see it. And for more comedy - the reaction to "I'll give you more money to be less of a knob": Again, scroll down to Feb. 9.

Yes. Claire had a flashback memory to the night she stole the pendant from Hardy's ex-wife's car while Tess was shagging her lover.

Love the actors on Broadchurch? Want to see more of their work? Here's the place to recommend and talk about other shows/movies the cast members have been in. To start off: Olivia Colman I first saw her in Twenty Twelve, a spoof about getting ready for the 2012 London Olympics. Olivia played Sally, the personal assistant of Hugh Bonneville's character, Ian Fletcher. She had an unrequited crush on her boss that manifested itself in trying to satisfy his every coffee/breakfast/lunch and other material need. Oh, and did I mention the show had a hilarious narration done by David Tennant? It's also worth searching YouTube for the sketches she did with Martin Freeman on the show Bruiser, particularly the Husband and Wife ones.

I'm currently binge-watching Twenty-Twelve in which Olivia played Hugh Bonneville's personal assistant, Sally, who had a mad crush on him. I can see the shy side of Ellie in the that character. Heart-breaking and funny. And the bonus? David Tennant was the narrator of the series. Hugh and David (still the narrator) have gone on to a follow-up show, W1A, about the BBC. Olivia's appeared in one cameo so far. The 2nd series of that starts on the 23rd.

My cousin had a pacemaker put in about 16 months ago and he had a lot of complications. So it can go both ways. FYI. In one of the pre-surgery scenes that got deleted, Hardy was told that he'd be able to go back to work in 3 to 7 days; he'd not be allowed to lift heavy things or do strenuous activities for 6 weeks and he'd have to avoid using his cel phone on his left side. He also asked specifically to be put under, though it sounds like they wanted him to be awake. I was awake for a procedure where a very very long needle was inserted into my chest and it was unnerving, so I understand his wanting to be put under!

Saw it live streamed back in January and I have to say I was VERY frustrated. Found too much focus on Jesse J and Weinstein took over too much. I suppose David and Olivia really couldn't say too much about Broadchurch and that's why Graham kept handing focus over to the other two, even during the segment that was supposed to be David and Olivia's. Still it was bad TV for Broadchurch fans. But if meeting Harvey Weinstein opens the doors for Olivia and David in the US, then I guess it was a good thing. Just not much fun to sit through slow streaming for. I'd love it if Graham would have OC & DT back now that Broadchurch is over for a while. They are comedy gold together whether they're Miller and Hardy or themselves.

For you, attica! https://www.stgeorges.nhs.uk/newsitem/broadchurch-at-st-georges/ So no shaving but lucky Felicity got to stick ECG dots to David Tennant's hairy chest! She did mention they ignored some of her advice in the name of creative license. Frankly, I don't think hospitals shave to the extent they used to. Oh, and where she refers to filming in a hallway and also a waiting room -- those scenes ended up in the deleted scene section on the series 2 DVD.

Re the wigs off: Yes. That's exactly it. When a juvenile is giving testimony, the judge can decide that wigs won't be worn so as not to intimidate the youngster. Claire was wearing a long skirt before her 50 Shades of Grey scene with Lee. BTW, "pants" in England means undies/panties. Adds a new image to Claire wasn't wearing pants in the field. The consensus seemed to be that Ellie didn't grab the photo right then because she didn't know how fast Claire could grab a pair of scissors and slice her neck.