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No kidding, plus during her "I didn't get into Westport so my life is over" having Eve sleep with the said guy and even apparently didn't have a problem doing that made even less sense. Even the way both Kristin and Ryan reacted to it. I wanted to go: "She is 19 and out of school, it's her life." As I said above, I know I will wait to see how "new" Mandy is. However, if they have it where she has zero personality and so stupid she can't tie her shoes. I'm really out, as for Boyd, who cares, the last kid was horrible and couldn't carry any stories, but was the writers gave Boyd so many stupid stories from anti-vaccine to Eve bullying him I wanted them to just ship him off never to return and take Ryan with him.

Yeah, the writers thought it would be funny that Jill went through all these jobs and was fired or let go from all of them. Not that many haven't experience that. I know someone who lost five jobs in a ten year period. Even though his track record and even his co-workers never saw anything that would require being fired. He later learned that two of them, their was a new manager, so of course he wasn't hired by that person, so the new managers got rid of who they didn't hire. One was because they did budget cuts and got rid of the most senior workers since they were higher paid. The last one he lost was because his father died and they didn't give him more than three days to deal with the death, which the joke was on them. They went out of business a year later from people refusing to work for the company. My friend has been at his current job for 4 years and is now the VP. I don't get why HI had to put it constantly with both Jill and Marty (more on Marty) on job loss. That it was meant to be funny, when really it isn't. It can really hurt not only a person's ego, but self worth. In Jill's case, she took it as an opportunity to do something she always wanted to do (even if being a shrink was half ass for Jill). For Marty it was: "Dammit! I hate working, but I have two kids to support!" Speaking of jobs and pay, I really wish they would have put in what Al's paycheck was. They constantly emphasized that Al didn't make much and Al even said his pay couldn't get any lower. Even in the flashback with beardless Al, they had Tim saying Al was the only guy willing to work for the money they were offering. What was Al making like $200 an episode? Then that is pathetic, but we know that Al did work outside and was loved by almost everyone with the: "Can you send me a picture of Al, we love Al." I know they wanted to have Bud be against Al and even finally saying that it was older people that actually liked all and if you look at the course of the series early on and even Jimmy Carter's guest appearance, they were all older people. However, Al was in a nice bachelor pad and was good at saving his money enough to not only buy into Harry's Hardware, but also transfer easily to Tim's house property in the last two seasons of the show. Which even brought up more on Tim and Jill's finances. We know that Mr. Binford gave Tim and Jill the money for the house that they paid back by doing the TV show. However, for Jill's constant: "How can you spend money on these things" she did since season 4, apparently buying a house and renting it out wasn't a problem. I know Jill constantly talked about wasting money, but they apparently had plenty.

Recasting Mandy is seriously not a good mood. Nothing against who ever gets the part, but this is like when they replaced Kristin. They cast an actress who was nowhere near the level of the original Kris and had ZERO chemistry with the rest of the cast. Plus, Mandy and Kyle are apparently in their house now, so are we suppose to think that everyone who was begging for LMS returning is going to react well to "new" Mandy. Not a good sign. As for Boyd, maybe they can get a kid who can act.

It's really funny, Tim's honorary PhD episode aired last night and the way both Jill and Wilson went into things about Tim getting something handed to him (later revealed it was a way to get funds for a new library at the university). Jill admits she was not only jealous, but feeling she was going on forever trying to get PhD not to mention her license. The writers even admitted later on they didn't know what was needed to get the degree and also for Jill to get a PhD, she needed a Master's first. Even in the mid 90s, if she went to school as much as Jill did she would have finished her Master's in a year and a half. Especially when she was continuing the same degree she got her under graduate in. That never made sense because even when she started working for the magazine. She said she had been in advertising before. Now, I get that many end up in fields we didn't go to school for, I did for almost a decade before I went back to school to get my teaching degree. However, I never really understood the joke about how she lost her job to a person who had a "Harvard degree and a pair of Ph double Ds." Now, the joke was she lost her job to a woman who had a doctorate and big boobs, but trust me. I have seen people come out of an Ivy League school who look like a super model, but yet could run circles around you intelligence wise. So, it wasn't like she didn't have the know how to back up her position. However, was their doctorate in Marketing or Business Management? Other wise, why would you want to replace someone who not only was making the magazine money, but was doing a good job and was there close to 3 years at that time? Plus, why would a magazine want a person with a doctorate unless they were going to become the new VP or head of a department. Something that also was trying to put on with something that made no sense and I'm not talking about the Dean stupid enough to put her hand on a mic that was splashed with water (though the water doesn't touch the microphone at all). Was Al so upset he didn't get an honorary degree. He went INTO THE NAVEY! The military doesn't just hand out degrees, Al never mentioned once he went to college after he got out of the military, which would have payed for school. He got license in plumbing and so forth and worked construction. However, never has it be said that Al had any type of degree. His brother, Kal did and it was mentioned in all of his appearances. Another thing is when Tim gets the letter from the mail bag. So, what would have happened if Tim wouldn't have grab that specific letter? Would the university of contacted Tim later on? I get why they sent it to the show because of publicity. However, it wasn't like Heidi handed it right to Tim, he grabbed a random letter.

Not to mention, apparently she had been at the same dinner for close to 10 years by that time and had been a life time waitress. I get times were different, by the time we met their youngest son, he was in this mid 20s by then. So he would be born around the early 70s and out of high school around 91. So, to have a nice house like that from Harry having his own business plus doing work on the side. That's something you wouldn't see now. However, they came off as a couple where you just wanted to know how the hell they were still living together. Even if in one episode they were separated for apparently a couple of days. Their relationship became a farce, much like Benny mooching off everyone to the point he had no hair and was being hired as a food tester for Tool Time. Yeah, Tim really applied himself as a salesman and if you look at him, that's what he really was good at. Even the former Binford President was the #2 salesman and worked his way to be promoted to president since he stayed in the sales end of things. He however, liked to cut corners and save money where he could and when Bud bought Binford he fired the former president out right because he hated his business ethic. However, even with all that crap, I felt that Marty basically felt he should just magically fall into things. Thinking that his marriage would go right back to normal after having twin girls. and apparently he lost his job because of cuts, not his attitude. But then he expected just everyone to just hand him a great job where he could complain all he wanted and get his own way. Which, considering his family, where did he ever get a though process like that? I mean at least with Jill and her sisters, you got why she was and even why Tim wanted to be like his dad so much after he died. Marty, I mean, unless he was looking at John "I have crazy business ideas and have been divorced twice". Seriously, Marty had a terrible out look on life and to be a charter accountant? What was he expecting? Granted we had 20 years to look back on the show, but apparently we put more thought into that than the writers outside of: "Make Jill be bitchy it's funny!" Like how Debra was written on Everyone Loves Raymon. Because Jill couldn't cook, she never admitted to her mistakes and yet thought she was God's gift to her family. Like her father acted.

I was just watching Randy's basement room episode. So, two of the biggest are 1: when Tim puts the shelf up and tells Al he used his eye to make sure it was level and Al is proven wrong when he sees that Tim did it right. However, a few seconds later the shelf falls. You can see there ARE NO HOLES where it would have been screwed in. Which leads to Tim putting a hole in the drywall. He is putting a nail in the center of the dry wall, where you can see he has the rest aligned with the studs. He also doesn't really hit the dry wall that hard to put his hammer through it. Something else, how did Mark think that Randy's newspaper article he uses for the hamster cage was trash? He had it buried in his folder and Mark says: "I thought it was trash so I used it." So Mark was on Randy's desk, sees a few pages sticking out of his brother's folder and thinks it's trash that Randy just took home?

I just watched the episode where they were doing Life Hacks for cooking or setting up food. Tim through the episode tries to do the fish cooking, but doesn't use the dry cycle, just everything else. Making a mess in the dishwasher. OK, here is a problem, if you are to wrap up a fish that tightly (my uncle did this once) and it's on the top rack of a dish washer. The foil is not going to come off that easily and destroy the fish like that. I mean, everyone told Tim that you had to use the "dry cycle" and yet he keeps trying to do everything else. First of all, he is hit over the head not to do that and another thing is how loosely was he wrapping that tin foil to have the dishwashers destroy the fish like that? Two computer things that made no sense to me was when Tim tried powering up Randy's computer to get Zombie Sneak attack to load faster. How did that effect the game? The computer sure, but the game? Plus, Tim rewiring a computer? Why didn't he just buy a few upgrade memory chips? Another was when Jill got her new laptop and Mark and Brad told her if she left the computer before it was done printing it would delete the entire file? Umm... huh? What the Hell word processor document were they using? You save your work and THEN print! Plus, how Tim just came in to play his dumb monkey game. Officially assuming Jill was done with her paper because the message said: "Done working!"

I do know that the writers at one point where thinking of having Lucille and Art getting married. That would have really opened the door to a lot of story lines for Tim. Here the man he saw as not only a mentor, but also a father figure was not his stepfather. That really would have been really interesting, not like that meant more money to be thrown at HI for more appearances, but considering how much they wanted to throw at Tim Allen for another season until he turned it down since it was about the money and not the show. You do have to wonder. I also find when Lilian started dating again how that effected everyone from Jill to the boys. I mean, it was really a great story, but only went as far as one episode. I agree and some would have shipped him to a department where no one would have to listen to him. Something they seem to flat out establish with Marty was he was a very hard worker, but boy he was never satisfied where he was. If Home Improvement existed today, having Marty go into business for himself would have been the best option. He could have been a private consultant for accounting and bonds. People in Michigan would be line up at his door. Speaking of businesses, I feel Harry's Hardware store became an issue the way it did. First you have Harry offering partial ownership that Jill just went off the rails on (though at that point in time, even with school, the boys were doing less things). Then when Harry and Dolorous were moving to Arizona how Tim basically got tricked into buying the place out right. Just seemed unfair, I mean really Tim and Jill couldn't say: "We can't own a store and run it! It's just too much money and time!" Yet, they basically came across as idiots and while they worked out with the plan between Tim, Harry, Marty, Al and even John. It just turned more problematic than it needed too. I know it as because the actor who was playing Harry was put in a larger role in Boys Meets World (only to kill him off a year later). However, I really got sick of Harry's problems with Dolorous. I got they were married a long time, their kids were out of the house and it was just the two of them. However, Dolorous was a real horrible person! I mean she apparently waited tables for close to 30 years while Harry owned the shop and did repair work himself on the side and how Tim and Al met him. However, I remember after "The Look" episode, every time I saw Dolorous, I said: "Oh God, please no!"

Yeah, because Marty was either quitting or getting sick of working with others as pointed out when Marty and Tim worked together briefly. If they would have had Marty between the Hardware Store and doing K & B Construction and then moving up to the office department. That would have worked better with the stories instead of Marty testing out squeak toys at a pet store and the boys making fun of him at times. I agree on the split and no money, I would have liked to hear more on Marty's ex's life (I know she was on another show). However, I agree, Lucille should know what it is like to try and make things work when there is one less parent in the picture. Granted, Lucille was a widow, but still. She had to go back to work after her husband died with 5 boys and the youngest was just over a year old when that happened. When they had Lucille talking about how she doesn't know how she did it some days. I always perferred Tim's mother over Jill's mother. I felt that Jill's mother was apparently strict and tried to keep things happy for Jill's father growing up. Then when all the girls were gone, she dropped the weight they joked about, she mellowed out like a lot of parents do when the kids are gone and the grand kids are older. Randy's room was in the basement by that point, but I agree. Even when Randy came home for Christmas in JTT's last appearance, he talked about him and Lauren trying to get alone time and being too busy and then coming home and seeing life moved on without him. I wanted to go: "So, what were you and Lauren trying to do, hmm?" Brad losing Angela was due to the actress filming two movies at the time and the show decided to just get rid of her. Reminded me when they wrote out Jill's friend Amy after season 2 since she landed the role as the mother in Boys Meets World, saying she moved out of town. Having Lou the "meat man" leaving his wife since Robert Picardo got the part of The Doctor on Star Trek: Voyager. I felt that Lou running away with another women was lame as they kept his wife around another 2 episodes and then went: "Well, we don't have any story lines, so let's just act like she left town." Same with Wilson's girlfriend who was Jill's professor, we saw her in an argument with Wilson and then we never saw her again. Characters either got a quick write off, usually lame or just disappeared. Like Angela's quiet sister who was interested in Randy.

The only time it was brought up was when Jill caught Brad and Angela in Brad's room. Including Tim's talk to Brad that he first had sex when he was a little older than Brad, which I was thinking towards the end of high school. Especially when we met Tim's old girlfriend in season 3 and we found out he never broke up with her when Jill and Tim were first dating in college. I get the show didn't want to do a "very special episode". However, I think it was a very missed talk and situation and just joked about Brad having kids later on and Brad going: "Children?" One of the main reasons why Marty was brought on more after JTT left the show was to fill the void. Plus, they show wanted to deal with divorce and kids caught in that transition, which really wasn't too badly told. My mother actually said she could related to Marty being similar to when my father and her split up and I was around 3 at the time. I do wonder if there wouldn't have been the falling out between JTT, Tim Allen and some of the producers who weren't really happy with JTT either, especially all the bad movies he made in less than a year after he left the show for "school". Where the stories would have gone. I don't think Marty and John would have been at the forefront as they were due to Randy being gone. Of course, it made Jill look worst and Marty trying to find a concrete job got old really fast. Especially when he was a charter accountant and in Michigan in the late 90s? Hell, he would have been hired on the spot.

I did feel sorry for Burt, I mean how many years can you take the same joke over, and over again. Yet, Burt couldn't say: "You know what? Stop with the damn joke?" Him saying his father-in-law did it since they were married? I mean, at that point you tell the person: "Shut up!" Now, when Burt went into that Dana had to be like her father from being a vet to having one child, because she was "an only child". Now that, that was what Jill said. However, the episode showed that Jill just wanted to feel like she was superior. Even when she told Burt to have a cookie, like she tried with the three boys before hand. I agree and same with her cooking, when Randy felt he missed his opportunity with Lauren. Jill felt so horrible that people told her that her cooking was not only horrible, but didn't want it anywhere near their fundraiser and even said it in their letter. Yet, even after that, Jill still didn't cook, I remember the writers said that if they made it where Jill could cook, they lose out on jokes. Just like on Everyone Loves Rayman with Debra not being able to cook. However, when we saw Jill cook or make a meal for the family, they didn't say anything except for the college students that Tim was teaching. Who LOVED her cooking and everyone was shocked they were just walking out and couldn't get enough. Especially at that time when there were young men and women just a couple years older than them. However, especially after Jill's dad died, she just never learned. You talked about the vasectomy episode with Tim and Jill forcing him and trying to make Harry look like the hero (though I hated Dolorus's character). It came off as really forced. Then a year later with Jill having to get her ovaries removed due to cysts. That episode really put Jill in such a horrible situation. I got her anger towards Heidi, but even with Jill's mom calling Jill on her behavior. She still acted horrible. Though that episode was based more on Patricia Richardson's own health (she had a cyst removed and had not seen her doctor in almost 3 years and could have been avoided). However, they had it come off that Jill hadn't seen her doctor since Mark was a toddler, especially when he told Tim that last time they saw each other, the doctor had delivered Mark. That just rang false. A couple of years not seeing a gynecologist or something? Sure, happens, but at that point 13 years? Several jobs that Jill had had, how she was on the boys for their check ups, the many episodes Jill was sick, and she waited until a talk with her friend to go: "Oh, wait! I should go see my gyno." Speaking of women, I remember when Brad went out with the college student. Ok, high school jr/sr dating older boys/girls who are freshman/sophomores in college. However, she was almost 21, you were really expecting people like Tim and Jill to be ok with their son, who was in the middle of his junior year in high school dating someone who was about to be legal drinking age and was on track to graduate in a normal 4 year cycle? Plus, she was saying she would get a job right after she graduated? Then they threw in the entire engagement when they barely were out two weeks? That was just hack writing all over. Plus, they broke up a few episodes later. I thought all the boys dating and girl problems seemed very natural. I mean, really they were and the writers even asked them about their dating life, which all three were like: "Well, I have no problem." or "Yeah, not sure what to say half the time." However, the fact that Angela broke up with Brad because she saw another guy who had a car? Umm... Brad was driving more of a beast car, but since it wasn't his, I guess so, but whatever. I know they dealt the topic of sex with Brad, but I think if JTT and Tim Allen wouldn't have had such a falling out, I think they would have dealt with Randy and Lauren having sex. Which would have been interesting story and similar to how the middle daughter on 8 Simple Rules slept with her shy boyfriend while everyone on the show was more worried about the oldest daughter getting knocked up or the little brother being a "guy". Which really also wants me to go: "Really, Brad dates a college girl and she didn't think about sex?"

Yep exactly. Even when Rory brought up that his parents were in the LADB and he says: "Yeah, but they still left it behind to be in the family business." Logan was either keep doing with what the family had done for years or go to the streets. With Rory, hell she could have ran her own home business with her trust fund in hand and still done things with high society and no one would have cared. Yet, she was: "poor me, my life sucks."

Yeah, that was the main problem too. It's going to be the insurance costs for them no matter what for Mark's contacts. I remember when I got them, my mom asked if I wanted to go that route and I said yes and that was it. My stepfather just shrugged his shoulders. My two sisters wanted them, my dad said fine, my stepmother didn't care. They moved on. Another thing about Bud going to Tim about the Piston tickets, he could have also said: "You make plenty of money, since I sign your paychecks." I still don't know why he didn't ask Al, who was interested at the end too. He went solely to Tim. I also though the entire 5 games out of 40 was really a bad compromise. It was like saying: "You bought these tickets, so be happy I'm even letting you go to any games at all." Like Tim was her fourth child. Something that always bothered me with Jill as the season when on, she acted more like a kid not getting her own way than Tim with his tool and building obsessions. I remember when Jill told Tim not to build her office when he was not only geared for it, but it was going to take at least a month or two to build. Even saying that getting Tool Time involved to cut down on the costs and Jill didn't want it because "she was too stressed". I was like: "What?" First of all, she would have just checked in and see if Tim was going too far on something. Second, he had an outline about 2 seasons prior with him as a peanut and Jill loved the design. Third, I get she was busy, but at that point in time, when she was complaining to the shrink about her life at that point. Her father was long gone, Mark was on the upswing from his Goth looks, Randy and Brad were doing fine in school and Tim was just growing a beard sine he was in his "mid life crisis" when really outside of Tim wanting to move everyone to the cabins in the premier and then magically getting over it since he was going to go to NASA. Her biggest issue was she turned 40 and all her kids' issues were pretty normal for their age and Tim was really just being Tim, he just felt his life was stuck since everyone one else was going someplace from the boys in high school to Al getting his own house and getting recognition for his work FINALLY. He was still Tim just in a safe spot from finances to career and if anything. I think he was just bored. The writers thinking that was a mid life crisis, they didn't get out much. To wrap it all up, Jill in the last 4 seasons was if she didn't like anything, she went overboard with something like Tim did with more power. It made her look like a bitch, not a feminist or a woman trying to keep her head in a world dominated by men. She just came across as her father who it was his way or the high way.

Same here, I even was romantically involved with a woman who just would not let her ex go. Her parents loved me, and even told her to get over the ex and I finally got tired of it. What happened a year later? He was dating someone and liked having all the attention of his ex, he ended up getting engaged and she felt like a moron. I also worked with someone who had a baby with her ex and he kept coming around, sweeping off her feet and barely staying involved with their kid. Got another woman pregnant 2 years later and did the same with her, but she wouldn't have it and kicked him to the curb and my former coworker got a clue and did the same. I remember even thinking these guys were like Chris and sure enough they were. There are so many people like that and for some strange reason they are giving so many excuses of "poor them" instead of: "Get the hell away, you are worthless". Even in the revival, Rory never told Chris officially off, she just heard his lame stupid excuses and that was it. It was closure it just was AS-P still going: "Yeah he's a prick, but we still love Chris."

Would have been really cool if we meet their family and find out they are super nice and supportive. Making you go: "So, what were Straube and Francine's excuses?

It's also funny, originally when they were outlining the show, they talked about one of the kids being a girl and more tom boyish, but they decided to base it more off of Tim Allen's life with his various brothers and growing up in a house of boys. Plus, Patricia Richardson had a son and twins, one which was a boy. So, they decided to keep it like that after the pilot was refilmed. I actually liked when they showed Tim bonding one with on his nieces and that maybe having a girl wouldn't have been a bad thing. I agree on Mark, I got where they wanted to move the entire Goth part and as we all know most teens, myself included, black was just a color you wanted to wear. However, Mark's friend, who barely wanted to talk and looked like a future gang banger. I'm glad they dumped his character later on because not only was he one note, fans wrote letters to the show going: "Who is this kid and any other parent would have kicked him out." Benny got worst and worst and they threw away that he was originally the former Bindford President's brother-in-law. However, I mean when Benny's aunt's house exploded, Harry, Al and even a set of nuns laughed and hung up on the idea? That shows that Benny was a major asshole and I'm sorry, what kept Harry from kicking Benny out, really drove me crazy. He ate his donuts or what ever food Harry brought in. He even revealed he bought tools from other stores when he did have money and needed them and it was a bigger savings. That doesn't ring as some guy to chat around the water cooler, that sounds like someone who would have been ran over by a truck. Plus, you add in that he did gamble and lose money more than he earned with bookies. I'm surprise Benny didn't get his legs broken. Speaking of Benny mooching, I remember when Bud sold Tim the season tickets. I've been in that situation before where you have the money, it's something you love and this is an opportunity that doesn't come around much. However, did Bud really think Jill would be ok what that? Plus, Jill went off the rails on the season tickets. Apparently money was not a thing, Jill was more pissed that Tim did a purchase without consulting her about it. Not like he didn't buy things tons of times and Jill just rolled her eyes and stuff that would have totaled more than the season tickets. Especially when the said basketball team was not doing that well in the 90s. Now, at the end when Tim was selling off the tickets, I mean that could have been Tim's counter argument hugely. He could have said: "It's not like we can make every game, we'll just sell off to our friends on games we can't make or do." Instead it was: "Jill is right, now make her happy." I hated that.

Yeah, just like Luke not telling Lorelai about April for almost 2 months and finds out by accident to have a season later told to Luke by Liz: "Who does that?"

The blizzard hot rod episode just aired last night. Wow! I forgot how much inconsistencies were in the episode. First of all, the episode starts with Tim's souped up power washer inscribing "Al's a Gal" into the wall. First of all, you could tell the set was in California. Looks like a nice sunny day in LA and yet later in the episode the get covered in a blizzard and you even see that there is snow outside when the boys leave for their hockey game. The entire graffiti situation could have been fixed long ago, especially in season 7 when the building was shown to be a different color and yet Al's a gal is still there. You are really trying to tell me, they couldn't sizzle out and re cemented the words before the building was repainted? You are really having us believe that the money that Bud had in Bindford at the time and how well the US economy was doing in the mid to late 90s, they didn't have the money to fix it? That Al, as pissed off as he was , didn't fix it himself? That Al after being shown all that still went and helped Tim with the hot rod and Tim wouldn't let him eat? If I would have been Al, I would have said: "Go to hell and get Wilson to help." Speaking of Wilson, he gave the heater to Jill that Tim used, but yet he didn't go and help? That only Jill thought about using two hair dryers to dry the hot rod faster? That she even had time to wax it? Jill who never knew anything about cars? Also, how did Tim and the boys get home so easily if there was a Blizzard that dumped enough snow to not only cover the hot rod, but looks like it dumped half a foot of snow in the process? When the backyard looked like it was just 2 inches.

Rory in my opinion would have worked out well. In fact, it could have lead to Rory talking about the horrible relationship they had. Something that finally happened in Fall, (which still wanted me to punch Chris). However, it came off as: "I'm Chris, I always get Lorelai back, no matter how shitty I am. I'm a winner!" Could have been a good plot point between Chris realizing he had become like his father: "It's how I see life that matters, and screw anyone or disagrees." Instead it came out once again from AS-P and her husband: "Poor Christopher, he has such a tough life." Please.

How true and I think Molly might be hesitant since not only was the series will be coming back a year and a half after being cancelled. It is at the same time slot on Fox. While Tim Allen might be happy, Fox is really, really taking a gamble on the time slot. Another thing is the show is called: "Last Man Standing" because it dealt with a character who was living with all women, trying to understand and succeed personally, when he was successful career wise. However, by season 4, Mike didn't have to really worry about that much. Sure Mandy was at home and Eve was focused on Westpoint. However, it turned into: "Mike is angry even though he has a successful life inside and outside the house, but he wants to control everything." It didn't make sense. He threw his salary in Vanessa's face since season 3, which made little sense. He always wanted to pick a fight with Ryan and vice versa because something was always "wrong" with their views. Most of the time, it was Ryan being super dumbass. His conflict with Chuck was forced many times and they both became racist several times. Something the show has to deal with is having Chuck being conflicted do to work only. Chuck is security and feels he has Outdoor Man's best interest. While Mike, who is the marketing and business director and co-owner. They both have ODM best interest at heart, but conflict because they have different visions. That's what it needs to be about. As for still having Ryan and Kristin in the picture (at this point the actor playing Boyd is out). Then outside it's Mike and Vanessa's daughter, what is the point of having the characters around? To do more straw man stories between Mike and Ryan thinking it's Archie Bunker? Because the ratings proved those were episode people checked out of and why we saw less Ryan in the last 2 seasons. IF they really want to go a great place with the stories, then how about Mike and Vanessa being empty nesters. Many couples say: "Let's see how we do without the kids being a barrier." Many couples get like that, they have successful home lives. However, when the kids are go it's: "Now what?"

Last Man Standing Revival at Fox: Which Cast Members Are Returning? So, Mandy and Eve will only be reoccurring. At least with Eve they have an excuse with her being in the air force. However, that could be glaring with Mandy, especially with Kyle being around all the time and Chuck minus Nancy again. As for Boyd, unless they recast him or have sent him to boarding school. That would be very glaring, since Boyd has been the main focus on why Mike tolerates Ryan and the fact that Vanessa and Kristin always give him an excuse to act like an asshole because of Boyd.

Speaking of Mark later in the series, when they got away from Mark being goth and he was seeing his love of making movies and videos. Why didn't Jill and Tim come down on him more after the school video project. I mean, not only was that embarrassing, but Mark was that oblivious where he didn't go: "You know, maybe I shouldn't show this." I mean he got Jill in trouble with her professor, even though he did say that everyone says things when no one is looking, but what about Brad? I mean we find out he used forks to scratch his back and then put it back in the drawer and his comment about the spoon, I'm thinking he either used it to pick his nose or scratch his butt. After that, I would have been all over him on that. Speaking of Jill not making smart decisions was when they thought that Randy might have cancer. It wasn't like Randy was 8 years old, he was a teen by then. He was old enough to deal with that kind of news then. Also, making the jokes on how Jill couldn't cook unless she followed a recipe or was under a lot of stress in that episode. Later revealed that Jill's father could lead a branch in the military, but cook? Nah! He was a man! Speaking of both Jill and Tim's family, interesting that Jill, Tim and Marty were the only kids on both sides of the family that not only got married, but had kids. Considering Jill's younger sister was brought back several times and her first episode was she was married, none of them had kids? I get Tim's older brother, Jeff made sense. He was divorced, between jobs all the time. So, him without kids I got. Just like Jill's sister who was a photographer and always on the go. They had good excuses, but the rest? Much like Benny who was always gambling and mooching off others. At some point, Benny's luck would have ran out and he would have HAD to get a job.

That was actually cool, but the fact that Tim destroyed a perfectly good and most likely expensive hockey stick and full deli roll. I get that Tim got carried away, but really. That was a waste of money right there. I was watching the last few episodes and they kept going back to the time Tim got his tongue stuck to his hammer. Considering he was knocked over by his rotating Santa and landed face first on the hammer. He is lucky he didn't knock his teeth out, but that was like a regular accident that could have happened to anyone working outside in the winter. Yet, everyone acted like it was Tim being Tim again. It wasn't like gluing his head to the table. That was something he should have been able to avoid. Just like the toilet he glued his hand to when Felix the plumber told him it was instant glue. It wasn't like Tim didn't know what it was.

How about when Tim rewired the vacuum to the point it almost sucked Mark in. I also remember when Tim got a new weed edger and went to use it and somehow cut his pants up. How would Tim have it that close to his legs to cut them to the point there was nothing left? Then Tim meeting Randy's girlfriend at the time, Dana's parents. 'It wasn't like we didn't see Tim mowing the lawn, doing yard work, which he was proud of to magically get so excited about a new trimmer he cut his pants off and yet has no signs of cuts or alterations on his legs?

Great points. I also remember when Brad's girlfriend was making him lunch in their kitchen and Jill was: "How dare you make your girlfriend make you lunch." I was like: "But, she was doing it to be nice." Even when Tim said that Brad had her wrapped around his finger, I wanted to go: "Umm... she was doing it because she thought it was a normal thing for a girlfriend to do." Brad bringing it up was fine, but really it was an example of Jill just going ballistic on things as the show went on in later seasons. Similar to "Dark Mark", which I know the writers wanted to do something different than the rest of the boys and Noah said he thought it was a great new direction for Mark. However, he agreed after watching the final cut of the Horror Movie episode he was: "What he hell is wrong with my character?" That also started the quick turn around with Mark going prep with a girl who was interested in him. Soon as they broke up, he shaved his head and said his parents didn't get him. Causing Tim to cancel going to NASA and going into space. A once in a life time opportunity. I know they were trying to show that Tim got over his mid life crisis (which was badly written). However, the new season started, Mark was fine and then we lead to Randy leave the show and I went: "That wasn't fair to Tim."