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I loved his bedazzled items. They looked awesome!
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Yeah, you have a research assistant who just thinks: "Oh hey, my hot doctor left his keys and phone." "Let me answer it and not speak of who I am because this will guarantee he kisses me again." Really, Stephanie is worthless and now she is bribing and spying on other cases to find a "cool" one. She has no purpose on the show again and its been 11 seasons. Interns and doctors aren't that bored that they need to find cases that are "awesome". This is Seattle Grace/Mercy West/Sloan-Grey Hospital. Earthquakes, plane crashes, paramedics crash into service bays from brain tumors who are secretly nazis, families get in car crashes by going camping in the death of winter for their daughter's 18th birthdays, church buses magically go off road by them and people sneak guns and bombs in all the time. Just wait during sweep months, Steph and you'll want to run back to Oregon saying: "I want to just treat skin knees!"
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Exactly! Its also with Haley, she gets everything but can mooch off her parents and live at home and at no point do either of them tell her, its time she move out since she has a good paying job and isn't going back to college. Of course that won't happen like Alex realizing she doesn't have to dress up like an awkward 13 year old because she is really attractive or in granny clothes because she has huge boobs.
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We knew that Lindsey was Dean's rebound but as many of us had pointed out. To go from rebound to engaged in that short of time, especially at 18 was really ridiculous. I also have to wonder what Jared's thoughts were on the "longing for Jess" when it first came up. I think he got Tristan but then it was almost an exact repeat but with more sexual attraction and more "moron bad boy" with Jess. That he probably thought: "Wouldn't Dean get that apparently Rory can't stop looking at other guys who aren't like him?" Because that's how it came off. Yes, I have this great boyfriend but outside of mad I didn't say: "I love you" back. As soon as I see a guy who is a "rebel without a cause" I need to long after him. It was like with Paris cheating on Jamie with Fletcher. "I finally have a great boyfriend who was my first everything but I need to go sleep with a man who is almost 50 years older than me because HE's A MAN!" Then I'll sleep with my coworker because I can't do better than either of them ever again. Yeah, huh?
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Exactly! I mean, you really think the town had their memories erased about the death of Luke's dad. His mom was never mentioned and TJ was well aware of their father's death and what he meant to them. Yes, I really would like to know where Straube and Francine came off better than Emily and Richard because they by no means looked or were told they were better than them in any respect except Straube was a major ass. As for Sookie, I think somewhere around 25K was put in and couldn't do more do to their baby at the time. Michele never added since he was working at the other hotel to cover his living costs before he was made manager at the Dragonfly. One of my favorite nitpicks was when Trix revealed that Richard borrowed money once and he paid her back in a month. I know he yelled at his mother about how that was even an example of poor money management if he gave it back to her in exactly a month. The only thing I can think of was that there was a big expense in a repair or something and Richard and Emily needed it done ASAP. Then he paid her back with either a bonus or tax return. Otherwise, that was very out of place.
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You do have to wonder sometimes. I mean with Milo at least it was from the same creator for it crashed and burned before it started or with the Bradford Diaries before he moved to Heroes. I have known shows to utterly destroy their characters because they wanted to leave for other reasons (Grey's Anatomy, 7th Heaven, The OC, Threes Company). I mean there is being professional and writing them off with grace or a major shock value to then tell aftermath stories. However, with Gilmore Girls the only one that seem to have any good send off and then forced him down our throats again with stories was Chris Sutcliff when he went to ABC for "I'm with Her." Not to mention shows like Judging Amy that had actors leave for other reasons but they brought them in and out under much better written and acted reasons. It was like two of the characters during Bunheads during the final season. I think the actors knew the show was going to end and were looking for new work and AS-P really ham fisted their characters towards the end. Don't get me started if you want to leave a Shonda Rhymes show, its a death sentence for your character.
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The problem was, meeting Dean's parents would have meant that the writers would have tried to make them bitter and viewing the world on their own terms as we got with Jess and Logan's parents. It was like Tristan, sure CMM was going to his own show but really outside the "bad boy" who really has more to him. We never met his parents or family. Same with Paris, I really would have liked to know more about her parents but that would have meant, you know actually fleshing out new characters or existing characters. That was a No No on Gilmore Girls or when they did try to flesh out characters to add more layers. Its was like Professor Flemming's family with Paris. They got mad that he left things to her even thought Paris was just a string of young college girls he had relationships with. No: "Dad!" "Enough with sleeping with your students!" or "You were just one of many young girls he was with after our mother died, we are his children!" How about if Logan really would have gotten into trouble after yacht gate. Where the judge would have told Logan and said: "You can't keep doing this Mr. Hutzburger and just because your lawyers get you off, you have yet to learn. I'm sentencing you to 500 hours of community service and don't think about leaving the state." Would have been great seeing Logan and Rory bonding with Logan coming to realize he couldn't keep doing this and expecting to get off. It wasn't well done.
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I always wanted more on Dean's parents. His brief appearance of his mom when Rory came over after the end of the marriage was just... weird. I get she didn't know how to handle or say things but there really needed to be more to it. It was just so... flat. How about Dean's dad or his younger sister who was also friends with Lindsey? Nothing and I mean NOTHING was ever addressed about that fallout. Or how about even when Dean admitted he was stuck at home since everything before his yelling with Luke in his final appearance. Was it meant to be constant or anything? There was nothing else but: "Dean hates his life and the 'rich' Gilmore World." Well... who contributed to it? Look in a mirror you tall moron!
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Exactly. I mean the end of the relationship was Dean: "I have no place in this world do I?" Rory nods and then goes and has fun with Logan's friends and a bit tipsy and that's all she wrote. Flash forward almost a year and then put in Dean's stupid yelling at Luke and him going: "He has a point." Which Luke should have said: "Because you don't want to move on in your life?" So many missed stories and good drama instead of just going: "Oh well, hey let's make a rift between Lorelai and Rory."
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It wasn't bad and I could somewhat see Phil's point but it went too over the top even for him. Though I enjoyed the peds farm house moment. I agree with Haley though, Alex really needs to get new clothes, I mean flannel? In LA during Spring Break? Really? I did like how Alex went off on how she did all this stuff and then didn't get in but then realized that she can still do great things. I did like how Gloria helped Cam, that was well done and if you watch again. You can see Gloria shocked at the things that Cam was getting in trouble with. She knew something was up.
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Oh I know, I mean she just came off as a hypocrite more than someone who wanted to say neutral in the entire thing and her final say on it: "It makes Rory happy." Oh... WORST LINE EVER!
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Right but as also said, it wouldn't have been as "dramatic." However, the way they had Lindsey disappear and then Dean's one episode stupid yelling at Luke situation, it fell very flat. We get that Dean screwed up his life by doing all of those things but Rory and even Jess ended up pretty happy with their lives in the end. They made their mistakes, finally learned from them and grew up and moved on. Dean, last we saw, complete college dropout living with his parents while his sister was about to go to college and he was bitter and mean. Instead of realizing he made a mistake, should have tried at least going back to school and moving on with his life. Of course the fall out between Paris cheating on Jamie with her professor I thought was poorly handled and kind of stupid too. Yes, it was a bit of a different situation but then the fallout was poorly handled and months later. No one cared much like Dean until he showed up that day because Luke knew about Dean's drunken confession before the wedding and wasn't that surprised the affair happened. I get Luke didn't say things because he felt it wasn't his place. However, situations like this happen because someone doesn't want to speak up when they should. Sadly, happened to me with my ex, I had three people that saw my ex at the time cheating on me but didn't know how to say things. Then I found out by accident because her diary fell. He reasons for cheating? She was bored with me and thought I was a little kid. Dean and Lindsey, because the were too young to be making that kind of commitment and had no idea how the world worked and Stars Hollow instead of going: "Hey!" "Shouldn't you think about this first?" They went: "Oh Happy Days!"
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Complete word to that. So many times it was: "Oh no!" "I can't handle this reveal, I can't tell anyone!" YES YOU CAN! It was like the entire GG universe had PSTD happen to them and figured secrets were better than talking about anything. Including the basics.
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That's was exactly it! Everyone was like: "OMG, let's pick out dresses!" Even Lorelai was happy for him. I just remember going: "Huh? What? You're 18 and barely together a few months!" I know the real reason was originally it was AS-P and company's way to write out Dean due to his working on a TV pilot that never went anywhere. Same reason why Jess was turned into mister stupid skipping school dropout so her Spin-off series could happen. The entire GG world had a very strange and very 50s marriage idea. I even remember in The Damn Donna Reed Show how Rory gave Dean's his thoughts on how his dad worked and his mom stayed home to raise the kids was outdated. Dean kind of saw it too but still wanted to do that. Well, look what he got. Not to mention if I was Dean's parents I would have been knocking him over the head about dropping out of school or thinking Lindsey could just stay at home. I mean what year did they think this was? It was also post 9/11 and while not 2008 yet. How did these two think of financially supporting each other? Let alone just Dean. I know it was to get the affair storyline front and center but wow! Getting there was horrendous and these people acted like they never lived in the real world. Even if they had smartphones and internet.
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Which I agree with, Rory had her father issues like Jess but she didn't let it hang over her like Lorelai, Richard and Emily. However, she couldn't identify with Jess's relationship with his mom or how he gave Luke the cold shoulder. Especially when people jump through hoops for Rory on things and she took it no problem. I had something similar happen with a relationship at the end of college. My girlfriend didn't know how to handle me taking her out to dinner and movies or just chatting with her on the couch. Her previous exes weren't like that, it was either what they wanted to do or just sleep with them and that was about it. I took care of them, wanted a full relationship and she couldn't deal with that. Sadly, she got involved with on her exes that was very abusive to her and they later got married and divorced because she thought that was what she deserved or just how things WERE suppose to be. Luckily she found a very good guy a few years later, got married, had children and is very happy but sadly she had a problem believing that I wouldn't treat her like her past relationships and that is what ended it in the long run.
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I agree on all of this. Rory was expecting the basics of a dating relationship in their late teens. Yet, Jess was about the making out and I'm sure if things would have went differently the night of the party, Rory and Jess would have done it. However, Jess didn't want to do that, he liked how he went about things and couldn't grasp that his "bad boy" tendencies weren't going to get him anywhere in life. Rory and Luke told him before and after he split, they could have helped him with at least getting his GED or making it so his repeating of senior year was as horrible as he played it in his mind. Like I said, as much as I think the Stars Hollow principal was a moron, he did show he cared that Jess would graduate. Of course they were trying to suspend logic for Jess's exit of the series for the spin off to happen, which IMO made Jess look worst than he really was. I knew people like Jess or those who had basically Jess's story and thought they knew better than anyone else. However, I also saw first hand the effort that was put in trying to keep them from flunking out of school or to keep spiraling downhill. With Jess it was: "Oh... sorry we are only going to care now and show it even though we knew for weeks you were skipping and not telling anyone." Did they get the reality check and got their lives together? Oh yes but at the same time they got the shock long before the thought of repeating another year or dismals was even an option. With Jess it was: "Opps, sorry you have to repeat and no we are not going to contact your uncle and of course no one is going to NOT say that you are not in school."
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No kidding, why I will never believe Anna's excuse for not telling Luke about April. "You would have most likely not been there." Really "most likely" after all the crap Luke did even when he was there for Liz and Jess even after Jimmy left which if the timeline works was long before Luke and Anna even were dating. Sure, Anna, Luke was a small town loser and a jerk. Have you met his nephew?
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They really should do Gates by now. I mean, the entire murder that involved her sister last season was pretty good and they keep dropping more and more with Gates' home life and career. I also feel that Penny has really gotten her character down and not as one note as she originally was written. I just think its time we see her husband and her family like they did with Montegamery. It shouldn't be the main focus but its time to show that work isn't her only life. Especially since they've pushed Martha and Alexis out more.
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Oh I know. Of course seeing where they show runners wanted to go with Season 5, I'm actually happy the show didn't get renewed. I did like Jack & Bobby when it started but in the middle it started becoming a mess. I did like the conclusion to the series but yeah, the CW had very weird tastes in what they wanted on the network at that time. I do know many people now reflect and when Smallville was their new hit how they didn't try working more superhero shows even after Birds of Prey failed. Which I blame on the writing. Of course, once network chairs changed we got Arrow and later Flash. Both doing great and the former creators from Everwood and Jack & Bobby on them. They just told them not to "force" their own beliefs on the shows, just make them good. Something I know that doomed AS-P's spin off series and later with Bunheads a few years later. AS-P had a specific vision with her shows or characters and if you even dared to disagreed with her, watch out!
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Also why I enjoyed this episode more and why I really enjoy Seamus as an actor. Especially the scene in the water way and how he told Frank to stop and then snapped his gun. The look on his face: "Don't make me do this, please!" said it all. I agree though, the assistant doing it make plenty of sense but then revealed that Lopez having the affair was due to his wife being gay and the classic: "We have an agreement." did take me by surprise. I did love when Ryan told Becket when he has a crazy theory he calls her husband and not her.
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My mom and I actually went over how that story happened outside the the context of the story. I think our best was: AS-P "Yy new spin off is going to be awesome!" CW: "We don't care, we want to give 7th Heaven an 11th season and bring on Jack & Bobby, we want bad drama not 'dramady'." All joking aside, we actually came up with how Jess at first saw he really did have nothing and then started realizing that working at a pier food shack was no better than when he worked at Luke's. He couldn't go to Walmart again because there weren't any in that part of California and Target didn't want him due to him skipping out and quitting without notice at his former job at Walmart and he couldn't find a job outside of the shack. Jimmy only had so much money and what happens is Jess sees Jimmy being more of a father to his girlfriend's daughter. Who we find out died when the the daughter was two and that she took a job with Jimmy and then they opened the shack together. At first Jess feels bad but then really wants an answer to why he ran out. Jimmy admits it was Liz's living habits. He was trying to work two jobs, Liz wanted to spend any extra money on pot and was late with the bills. He was basically raising Jess on his own during that first year while trying to raise both Jess and Liz and then he just crumbled. He was about to lose his job and he knew Luke would bail Liz out, so he took the easy way out. Jess not only sees that Jimmy was a quitter but he did the same and decides that he won't be like Jimmy was and leaves. However, he realizes he won't go back with his mom or Luke after everything that happened. So, Jimmy gives him some money to get started and Jess heads back to New York, gets back into contact with Liz and we know the rest of the story. My mother and I decided that real reason why he needed his POS car back was to run deliveries and a temp car he got broke down and he didn't have the money to fix it. Then he learns his car is still in Stars Hollow and while it breaks down. He knows he has enough money to have Gypsy get it running again and goes from there.
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Exactly! Of course, I would have like to see this "work something out" because it was all tell and don't show and by tell I mean: Said he offered but never explained what it was. Yes, it was Luke's money and we know Dean paid his part and he even admitted he started the fight but he owned up to everything. Can't say the same later with the affair but still. There was the difference between owning up to the mistake and taking responsibility and: "You have nothing? I have nothing!" to his dad who magically reappeared and we never got the real reason after almost a decade he just showed up. Even the people his father lived with and worked with were even shocked that Jess showed up. Like it was Jess who ran out on his dad.
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Oh I know, like in the previous episode where it was revealed that Alicia is still mad at Zach for not coming clean about the abortion even though his girlfriend's parents knew and were there and still didn't tell her or Peter about it. It was about two kids doing something stupid then made the hard choice and then tried to move on with their lives. Peter understood that but yet Alicia is still: "How dare he not tell me!" She doesn't get over things at all.
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The thing about Jess, is when he really wanted something he would apply himself big time like his POS car and becoming Walmart employee of the month. However, like any teen who like to blame others for his problems he wanted that to just happen for him. Never thought about the effort that went into things and that didn't help with his trust issues. Especially, when he couldn't come clean about the embarrassment that was goose gate. Not to mention not seeing a doctor because the goose's beak could have been carrying bacteria on it. Read about a kid that was bit by a goose, parents didn't think much of it and then it got badly infected due to transfer of bacteria from the goose. Luckily it was easily treated for the kid but the parents didn't think of shrugging something off like that again.
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I completely agree, I think Dean would have brought things up sooner especially after the car crash. Then the break up would have happened sooner and I think Dean could have moved on easier. Instead you had him pitch a fit, break up, go with Lindsey and then the entire situation at the party and the fight. Then of course the disaster with getting engaged with Lindsey. Dean had anger issues but at the same time he didn't want to face reality when it hit him in the face until it was too late. Which really explains Lindsey, she figured if she asked for something she would get it. Never believed she had to work for it.