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By the way, when the TARDIS is moaning, the Doctor says that "it has made this sound before". Does anybody knows what he was referring to?

Also, fun fact: the set they used for Helios is the same as the startup one in The Dropout 😁 Hope that Dev will not follow the same path as Elisabeth Holmes...

My understanding is that they were running out of food and that Danielle was giving much of her share to Danny. My immediate thought when they found him dead was that they would solve their food issue by eating him and that this was where the shame truly came from...

Just here to mention that the title of this episode (and the name of this exciting new character) is a reference to the symbol of an animal eating its own tail, which is often taken as representing a cycle that repeats itself. I wouldn't conclude anything from it, but this seemed like something worth noting 🤔

I'll join you in the minority and based on the comments here, we seem to be many...

To me, that looked a lot like the Southlands, with Mount Doom in the distance. So my new headcanon is that the spinoff from this series is actually Rings of Power and I do not have to wait several years to watch it 😎 This! A hundred times this!

I quite agree with you. In my case, I have watched Rebels but it makes this version of Sabine even more off-putting 😅

Reading this, I couldn't help thinking about the French drag queen Nicky Doll's version of Joan of Arc : https://www.instagram.com/p/B-QkkFfDmI_/?hl=fr

With Ahsoka's "We'll see where it goes" and the fact that I struggle to feel invested in the Thrawn/Ezra quest (even as a TCW and Rebels fan), I would find awesome if the whales ended up somewhere completely different and the rest of the series is just Ahsoka happily exploring this new amazing place and living the hell out of it 😁

We finally got the Ahsoka that we love, from TCW! Too bad she seems to be gone again but damn, It felt good. I think Ariana Greenblatt did a very good job, even though it would have been really nice to have Ashley Eckstein back for this bit. Nevertheless, even though this episode was fun, it did not amount to much. There is no clear point to the flashbacks and Anakin's "lesson". The only good thing is that they finally decided to hitch a hike with the space whales, as many thought they should. Yeah, that comes from Rebels. But they are going a bit out of their way here to catch newbies up with the story, what with Jacen having a nice exposition dump when talking to his mom...

That's the thing I do not understand: who is this Ahsoka? I liked the one from TCW a lot and I was quite OK with the Rebels version that seemed like a believable evolution of the character. But this version is completely disconnected from everything I knew about the character. I know people say that she is older, more mature and probably traumatised by many things in her life but as we do not see any of these things, the only thing I get is a very wooden and stiff Ahsoka, that seems to be very keen about the Jedi way and who chose to train a non-force sensitive person for no clear reason 😕

I have exactly the same issues! I really dislike Rosario Dawson's version of Ahsoka. Considering the great job she did on other films or shows (she elevated Iron Fist, and that was not an easy job...), I tend to think that this is how she is directed. Which makes absolutely no sense to me when you know the animated Ahsoka 😡 And the Sabine situation is also absurd to me. She was a strong and independent character on Rebels and there is absolutely no reason to force her into being a Jedi. It made sense to teach her the basics so she could wield the darksaber in Rebels and I think it would be so much fun cooking a kind of fusion food mixing Mandalorian and Jedi techniques 🤩. But the way it is presented here is baffling to me. The fact that I find Natasha Liu Bordizzo pretty unconvincing as the live-action Sabine does not help... I do not have your problem #3 as I watched Rebels (and enjoyed it, you could give it a try 🙂). But I still have your problem #4, though. The way the bad guys are always speaking in some complicated and VERY SERIOUS riddles makes them completely unconvincing as real characters, in my opinion.

Well, it can also be very well done! In Agents of SHIELD that is basically what they did in the episode "4,722 Hours" and it was a masterpiece 😁 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4,722_Hours

I do agree with that. To me it looks more like him trying to convince himself that he did the right thing even if he feels devastated by loosing Crowley. And I think it was played amazingly well! Yeah, I thought this was a very interesting piece of story that was not at all touched upon afterwards. Let's hope it gets into play in season 3...

That's exactly it. You saw that?! Yeah, that pissed me off too. Her suicide makes absolutely no sense, even moreso after her conversation with Yen just before. And her use of the thunder spell was right there to make a big sacrifice... That makes me think a lot about Arya Stark and the way she was presented as a character that was destined to become incredible only to be stuck in an incredibly boring storyline and which never really amounted to anything. So I won't hold too much hope for Ciri...

I had the exact same reaction! Like what the fuck was that?! Did they cut so much of the season that we missed a complet battle between Vilgefortz and someone? Were we supposed to see that he was hit by a debris when the tower exploded at Aretuza? And I second you on the mention of Thanned. It kind of rang a bell but I had not clue what it was. That said, there are so many things that are incomprehensible and/or unimpactful that it did not bother me much... As for the Rats, maybe the captions helped me get their name and I supposed that the were just being introduced for the next season. But I do agree with you that it was kind of out of the blue.

I really, really liked the two parallel shots during the credits. And Aziraphale's side is clearly the more devastating of the two. As you said, you can see him shifting between so many emotions and thoughts and you feel for him. As a spectator, I was also shifting between anger towards him for not making the right choice and pity for him. On Crawley's side, what I found spectacular was how static his face was, whereas normally he is always making faces like pouting or things like that. David Tennant has such an expressive face that here you could see the mask he is wearing to deal with his feelings. This was truly a striking cinematographic feat.

I have to say that I was impressed with the actress playing Milva because in a few scenes I was more invested in her character than in most of the other secondary ones 😅 The "you would be dead now" had a very strong taste of "you know nothing, Jon Snow" but it works so I don not mind much. Same for the Rats, who in one scene appeared as a group that will be interesting to follow. I'm still not sure that I will be tuning in for the next season, considering I mostly hate-watched this one but these elements are sparks of hope.

I got genuinely angry watching this episode 😡 It is so poorly done, replaying many times exactly the same scenes only to ad a few more details in between. If someone is motivated enough to make a linear cut of the episode, I would be very curious to see if we miss anything compared to the choice the made... Also agree that the love story is completely botched, I felt absolutely nothing at their scenes in the bedroom except boredom. And the plot twist is so contrived it made me wince. These people are definitely not as smart as they are supposed to be, probably because the writers are not doing a good enough job. That would make sense, as I do not see how recasting this version of Geralt would work. Yeah, that was the straw that broke the camel's back, to me. How on earth did they think it would make a good cliffhanger for this half season ?!

This is the episode I liked, in this first part of season 3. It was way more fun than the previous ones, with scenes like the monster slaying or Jaskier and Ciri's banter. I wish they would tap more into this kind of storytelling instead of all the shenanigans around politics that makes no sense and where people are presented as really smart when they act not that smartly at all...

@PurpleTentacle, you seem to be hate watching this show, as I am afraid I will be too if I continue this season... I am not clear if this comes from the fact that this season is way below the previous ones or if it is because it has been so long since we were connected to this universe, but it is not working at all. No wonder Henry Cavill decided to jump ship 🙄

You can vote for this in the Primetimer awards!

Damn, this episode was so much more interesting than The Mandalorian is these days 😅 I really like how they explore the fate of clones and the way the Empire is phasing them out in a very systematic manner...

Yeah, I totally agree with that. The writers on this show tend to not leave things like that to chance...

They say in the article that the final operational version will probably be white so maybe it is just a marketing sting 🤷