Lone Wolf

I was okay with the blood, guts, and grimness but I'm also a Tarantino fan so I've become desensitized. I kind of viewed this through the Deadwood lens and went from there. That said, I found several plot elements to be predictable (Jacob killing himself) and some elements questionable (wolves so unafraid of humans that they would literally dig through a wooden wall to get at them - why not just huff and puff and blow the house down?) and some characters stereotypical in their evilness, or (somehow worse) their brave longsuffering trials and tribulations from which they emerged triumphant, stronger, and nobler than before. Okay way to kill an hour or two over the course of several days (I've never been a binger), but I wouldn't rewatch.

Anyone else notice the awkward way Frank was hugging himself when he was talking to Emily in his first scene? Hands under your biceps and pushing your pecs together to make everything look bigger - I wonder whether that was Joel's choice or the director's decision. It kind of makes sense because Frank's the kind of guy that would do that. It would be a sweet callback if that chihuahua was Lou from The Soup, but sadly, it probably isn't.

Sadly, I think most contemporary viewers don't who PH was. Me? I looked forward to his news and The Rest Of The Story and I'd switch over to the AM station in my town that broadcasted him anytime I was near a radio. Always wondered if Jr. might take over for him, but apparently it wasn't an option.

Hey, this is the guy who cut off the tip of his finger to save time rather than get proper medical attention - pulling out a nail is nothing to him. Couldn't agree more with your and others' thoughts on the mother and daughter. I guess they're supposed to be comic relief (Sheridan does the same thing in Tulsa King, but that show's more campy than this one in general), but OTT and cringe are the best adjectives for their shenanigans. The show would stand on its own (and better) if those unrealistic plotlines were eliminated. Is it just me, or does Billy Bob's Texas drawl make him sound like Hank Hill? I'll watch the next season (if there is one), but there's going to be a significant amount of hate incorporated.

Just dropped into say that while I'm a casual fan of Maniscalco's stand up (he's on the list of YouTube clips I'll listen to while I'm at the gym), and I was relatively okay with the first season, this season seems to be getting progressively more silly, especially the mother-in-law storyline and anything involving Rob Corddry's character, especially in this episode. He had the same problem in Ballers, now that I think of it. Unfortunately, Maniscalco has even less gravitas than The Rock (which is really saying something) so in comparison Corddry must be wearing lead underwear to keep from floating away. Until this ep, I had forgotten that Charlie Sheen was a cast member, but a quick Google search confirms that he apparently in fact is. I assume that's a favor/obligation to Chuck Lorre for all the aggravation Sheen caused during his Two and a Half Men meltdown (can't imagine that he needs the money). Regardless, he isn't looking like he's aging well. Oh, and Greg-ory's odd laugh reminds me of Micky Doyle's giggle in Boardwalk Empire. That's all I've got.

Watched it on Christmas Eve. I prefer the days when Stewie called Santa, Klaus, and Lois was climbing Christmas trees a la King Kong on the Empire State Building, but it fit in well with my annual screenings of The Little Drummer Boy, Frosty, The Grinch, Rudolph, and Charlie Brown. What can I say, I'm a Rankin-Bass kid.

Wrong ep - please delete

This is where that plotline fell apart. Not only does your point stand, but I have to to think that most girls would have cleaned themselves up. To state the obvious, Lucy clearly has issues - maybe on some level she thought she was humiliating Stephen, or she wanted to degrade herself? I just can't take that situation at face value. Came here to more or less say that. Their mindset seems to be that "hanging out" with as many guys as you want, as often as you want (including overlapping) is fine, but not once you're in a committed relationship, which is the conventional perception of marriage. That said, even open marriages frequently have boundaries, and sleeping with a spouse's co-worker (or in this case, student) seems like a pretty likely (and well-advised) one, so I don't know if I buy the likelihood of Oliver doing that. I basically hate watched this series, but I would watch a Season 3 and I was sucked in enough this time that I'm going to get the book. I did the same thing with Apples Never Fall, and the book was quite a bit better than the series, as books usually are. Curious to see if this will be the same.

Tim Van Patten's daughter and Dick Van Patten's niece. (The latter will be especially familiar to Viewers Of A Certain Age, although Tim had his moments in the sun as well). I assumed she was related somewhere in there because of the unusual last name.

Just found and recommended this show to a friend as follows: "It's like Euphoria goes to college, with alcohol and weed instead of hard drugs. Partying, hookups, and a death secret." Just finished Ep. 5 (Merry F*cking Christmas) and wanted to add the sentiment that I sincerely hope that Sadie found Freddie. That cat is worth the entire lot of these characters. That said, will definitely continue to watch, even if said watching is tinged with a hint of hate.

Fair point re: fuckboy, but I can't buy into rolling over for someone just because you're in love with them (or think you are), at least not to the degree that he did. At some point you need to have some self-respect and grow a pair, especially when the closest you're getting to sex with your beloved is licking your ejaculate off a mirror for her. If she's sympathetic to and trying to save Alondra, why did Yas have her fired - is that supposed to be "tough love"? As someone noted upthread, it seemed to be a bit of an overreaction if she sees Alondra as a victim...

I think Rob was pretty pathetic in general, at least where Yas was concerned. I don't think many guys would have put up with the way she treated him unless they were into being humiliated and dominated. I chalk it up to him being the stereotypical nice guy-in-over-his head. I have the feeling that this ep was intended to be the series finale and for whatever reason the decision was made to do another season after this one was in the can. To me it seems all over the place with time leaps and major life changes for the characters, and any one of the plotlines (other than possibly Yas') would have been better served with a little more build up and exposition. Alondra (the woman at the end) was on the boat, and I'm not sure what Yas' motivation was for hiring her, unless it was just a plot device so that we could get more information about Charles' perversions (including intimations that he did molest Yas, which I suspected after he pinned her down on the bed and screamed at her with his face almost touching hers. I half expected him to kiss her). And I hope she isn't planning to continue to wear his ring ("Thanks, Daddy!" indeed). Why would she want that reminder?

I'll play, at least as far as the Golden franchises are concerned. I watched both for one reason: dark curiosity. Would there be the same kind of contrived, OTT drama, backstabbing, and pettiness among the contestants as there is in the younger versions? How foolish and undignified are they going to act in general? How are they going to handle the Fantasy Suite? And finally, (I'll be honest) how would I compare physically to these guys if I were willing to sacrifice my self-respect and pride to participate in this dumpster fire? Considering what went down with the Golden Bachelor's "wedding" (c'mon, was there really any expectation from anyone that that travesty would last?) and the hot mess that was the culmination of the last Bachelorette, I can't imagine that ABC expects anyone to take these shows seriously. But I suppose if you will broadcast it, they will watch...I did and I am, although probably not "for the right reason".

Speaking of ABC, in case anyone doesn't already know, Disney bought them many years ago, so there's that product placement/tie-in. Nice to see a few people on the forum who share my opinion about Blue Bayou (and their Monte Cristo - that was always my GF's go-to). In fact, I met her through Match.com when I said that I was once there and saw a couple kiss before one of them go up to go to the restroom and that was the kind of relationship I was looking for. And here we are, watching GB together 19 years later.

Wasn't sure that I was ready for a RIshi-centric episode, but it was actually a refreshing change of pace to go from Euphoria to Wolf of Wall Street. That said, Rishi is pretty good at beating up his pub and being a shit husband/father (how creepy is looking at porn while you're holding your infant?) but (as he acknowledged) he got lucky. This time. I doubt anyone could pull off what he did IRL but by the same token, no one's ever going to accuse this show of being realistic.