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Thanks for this. That the actress herself feels it's up in the air gives room for a lot of interpretations. Yes, and it's the last scene at the end of the last three seasons so I'm having a hard time letting t go without really thinking about it. At the end of season four, Jimmy shocks Kim after his seemingly genuine speech to get his license back. She fell for it (though granted parts of it may have been true). He then shocks her further by the name change and finishes up with the finger pistols. At the end of season five, Kim shocks Jimmy (and us!) by using them after talking about going for Howard. So this season's end it's Jimmy's turn to use the finger pistols again. I suppose you could say he shocked her earlier by coming clean. (She didn't return them and the way she looks at him when she leaves is open to interpretation, which is perfect. As much as I wanted her to return them, it wasn't the right choice for the end IMO.) But since this is again the final scene, is there a tie in to the other two seasons I'm missing? I'm just not ready to let the finger pistols go yet without thinking about it some more.

At the risk of drawing ire from the Jimmy is a POS and should die like scum in prison viewers, I felt like the finale was brilliant in part in that it gave us (some of us) a way to like the character again in the end. I really needed that. I'm happy he ended up in prison but also happy at the way they let him have redemption. The whole reason Bob Odenkirk probably worked so well in that role was because despite the things he did wrong, the character was (to me) likable. The actor just exudes it. It felt wrong to me when he was portrayed in a dark way such as in some of the Gene scenes at the end. I thought the ending was beautiful and poetic.

I saw it and didn't think it was worth the time.

Well, since this is 2010 or early 2011, Jimmy would likely be released in 2020 or so because of covid. I think I bunch of non violent criminals got early release. How's that for the future argument?

I'm late to this discussion but I was wondering if anybody wanted to discuss the finger guns at the end and what the fact that she didn't return them meant. I'm not sure how to read her final look at him. I kind of took it as his attempt to say, it was fun while it lasted, eh? To which she indicated that she didn't feel the same. Or he was sort of asking, S'all good man? Like he wanted a sign from her (like returning the finger pistols) of approval, which I didn't see. Or it was just his way of saying goodbye in a language they once shared but didn't anymore. IDK. I guess just wanted her to return them. And I'm also hoping they would stay in contact in some capacity, although IDK what that would look like. Presumably she was free to go live the rest of her life, whereas his life would be constrained and almost frozen in time, even if not a bad life for him such that it was. She could marry again, try out different jobs and generally have opportunities to find happiness that would leave his world behind. But I'm still sad at the thought that this was it for them. I'm at peace with it. Just sad.

I can't imagine what fate you'd have hoped for him if he'd actually broken the urn lol.

Also, IIRC he has another set of plates.

Kim's wig was so bad that I actually think it must mean something. It really stands out and not just the color.

I'd also like to comment that wearing gloves doesn't do any good if you're going to drink alcohol and leave your DNA at the scene. I have thought throughout this whole last crime spree that Gene is just self sabotaging, unconsciously or not, until he gets caught. And his efforts seem increasingly more blatant. All his carelessness in this episode just screams how far can I go. How far do I have to go? Then he just lets Marion push the button on the alert device.

I loved the contrast between the cops innocently trying to eat their food with no original intentions of bothering Jeffy and then cut to Jeffy in the cab just absolutely losing his shit. Also, Marion's description of Jeffy getting in trouble in Albuquerque sounded way different than I had anticipated. Public drunkenness and public urination? That's not exactly the "falling in with the wrong crowd" I was expecting. No wonder he wasn't up to "getting in on the action." Of course I don't know if he was just being a dumb ass and crashed his cab or if he did it to distract from Gene's break in. Knowing that might change my opinion on how up the the challenge he was. But he comes off as not bright.

Imagine having a favorite show, being in a position to have a part offered in this show, and then ending up playing the person who takes down the lead character. You'd have to feel some power there. Way the go Carol Burnett. Wrapping up the BB/BCS universe single handedly.

I hated the Fly. I've probably watched BB five times at least but only managed to watch The Fly once. And I struggled through it even once. I thought this episode of BCS was good though. I feel like it might become even better for me after I know where things are going.

Me either so my question is, if Saul was known enough for Jeff to to know him and realize he could pick up the phone and get him in trouble, then what would make Saul that famous if not for Walter White.

I think this has been at least touched upon but if this has specifically been brought up I apologize. So if Jeff knew about Saul to the point where he says all it would take is a phone call, wouldn't Saul's easily known culpability (whether money laundering or similar) likely be due to his association with Walt. Especially since, people keen on exact timelines point out that Walt would have just died/been caught a month earlier in Sept and probably made news? If that's true, wouldn't Jeff pick up on the reference to Walt? I get the idea it was a big deal in Albuquerque? As in locals knew details about Walt's life if they were paying attention, as Jeff seemed to be. If it were simple money laundering, how many cab drivers would know enough about it that they would think they could turn Gene in?

I would just like to say, "Nippy" is a terrible name for a dog that has gotten lost if someone hopes they'll be returned. Is there anything to glean out of that choice of name WRT the episode? As in someone getting "bit" by what went on?

Another interpretation could be that when strong emotion is felt, ones native language may be the natural choice to express it best.

I'm glad this is being discussed because days later, I'm still taken aback by the statement that if Jimmy stopped the scam, they would break up. I'm not sure whether I don't completely understand or whether I just don't want to understand what's obvious. It's just hard for me to come to terms with that for Kim. I feel like I had her wrong in some ways. I can't imagine how devastating it would be for Jimmy.

I don't either but if the last scene before the time jump is in 2004 and the time jump is in 2005, he sure did loose a lot of hair in a year.

I no longer have access to the episode that this scene came from a few episodes back but when Mike was watching Kaylee build the toy where you put a marble on top of a tower and it goes along a twisted path faster and faster to the bottom, he says something to the effect of, if you build it too high the marbles will jump off before the end. Then she tells him something to the effect of, it will all work out once it's finished. Again, paraphrasing here. So in this episode, when Kim, Mike and Jimmy are trying to go about their "perfect day" and at the end Mike can't concentrate on his usual sports and glances over at this marble tower toy, to me it's like they all built the towers too high and thought it would all work out once it was finished but instead the marbles jumped off the track. They're all facing internal reckoning of their behaviors and the consequences of their actions. And their lives all ultimately take a new path because of it, whether it's further galvanization of the path they were headed for (Jimmy and Mike) or a complete change in path like Kim.

If I'm not mistaken Kim does know, which is what made her craft at taking down Cheryl even more devastating and despicable. Howard told them that information the night he was killed at their place.

I agree. I especially like that Nacho's dad pointed out that justice didn't mean shit to him because his son was still dead. It was all Mike had to offer and what Mike had tried to make work for him. But perhaps Mike, like Kim (although different situations), took a step back and realized they were lying to themselves about their reasons.

I thought that at first then realized that Gus liked it. It was another side of him we didn't know yet. And it fit.

I agree. Having been a victim of violence, I can say you never know what you'll do. As Mike Tyson said, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

I'm sure it's been brought up here before but in BB Jimmy tells Francesca that he's expecting a call on his birthday and to be sure to look for it. IDK what will happen but I've always used that line to help me hope it's from Kim, wherever she is.

Sorry, where it was filmed.