swanpride

...isn't it kind of "normal" to give the woman you love a ring with sentimental value to you? And regarding the pose: There are only so many ways how one can sit down in a pencil skirt. There is exactly one pose for the legs if you don't want to show off your undies and very little options where to leave your hands. Also, if there was a murder attempt on Diana, it was the most chancy of all time, considering that it relied on the driver speeding through the tunnel and Diana being stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt. Dito regarding the whole Saint Diana thing...it already annoyed me shortly after her dead. The Queen of Hearts nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. Yeah, it was sad that she died so young, but I really didn't feel more invested than I would feel regarding anyone else dying so young.

I am mostly tired of Netflix now offering up to me every single stupid documentary or made of TV movie ever made related to the royals. Apparently there is even one about the love story between Elizabeth and Phillip. But just because I watch the Crown it doesn't mean that I care about that dreck, I am just interested in history, and fictional accounts of history are always a good starting point to look up actual history.

If they have patience enough they could get away with two additional seasons even now. There is so much which happened in the last years….the problem is just that there isn't the benefit of hindsight just yet.

The natural end of the show would be when Elizabeth passes away or alternatively, when Phillip dies - whatever happens first. But just in terms of the six seasons already confirmed, and working under the assumption that the show will continue to jump from PM to PM, the natural end would be 2007, when Blair's Premiership ended. It also happens to be the year in which Elizabeth became the oldest reigning British monarch ever. But I wouldn't put it past them to also cover the last years in a seventh season if there is enough interest in it. I mean, it is not like the Queen isn't still a topic of discussion...the the EU hat.

But that's what always happens. And it is not like Meghan wouldn't have been able to get projects hadn't she married Harry. She was a successful actress beforehand. If anything it is he who takes advantage of his name not her, because she actually has experience in the business, while he doesn't.

How do you know? It's actually just a second, but otherwise you are spot on....

In this case my bet is that they start with the fire (which alone can fill one to two episodes considering the fall out of it) and then move through the slow destruction of the royal fassade, first through the end of Andrew's and Sarah's as well as Anne's marriage, and then through the end of Charles and Diana's, possibly ending with Diana losing the title of Princess of Wales. Honestly, the next season will be mostly about divorces and John Major, I guess...is there much to say about John Major?

It would be odd if they would just skip the fire in Windsor castle in 1992. I wouldn't be surprised if they use it as the season opener. But I guess they will then jump ahead to roughly 1996 or 1997. 1996 was when Diana lost her title, 1997 wasn't just the year she died, it was also the year Tony Blair became prime minister. The show likes to focus on the relationship between the Queen and the various PMs, it would make kind of sense to have one season just about Tony Blair. Or maybe they spend a season leading up to Diana Dying and another one on Tony Blair.

So...the different reporting regarding Kate and Meghan isn't something you noticed? You didn't notice her being called "exotic"? You do realise that one can be racist without actually using obvious slurs, right?

For some reason the one thing I remembered about the incident was the blood on the bed. When they mentioned that in the show, it triggered my memory.

The show really overstated that part. I doubt that Charles had ever problems with kissing any pretty women.

It's also not worse than being paraded around by your mother directly after your birth. Nothing in the show is worse than what the tabloids claim on a regular basis. It is actually very tame, all things considered. Especially since it never expresses any doubt on the sanctity of the crown.

Simple, she was a control freak.

It's a historic show, not a documentation. Fictional accounts of history are always above all fictional.

There was a hearing about it last year in which they grilled the first responders. It was disgusting and a very transparent attempt to distract from the cladding and those who chose it and ignored all the protests of the inhabitants. There were also a couple of articles in the usual newspapers about how the survivors now supposedly live in luxury. The usual BS.

Frankly, I couldn't care less who was more at fault. It's not my marriage after all.

Yeah, and in his defence, he actually was kind of faithful. Just not to his wife. But Charles and Camilla have been together for a long time, so whatever connects them seems to be pretty deep.

Anne on the show doesn't come off as particularly entitled imho....

While I "get" the notion that the queen is only supposed to advice, isn't it part of the trusted relationship that the PM actually LISTEN to what she has to say? The other PMs sometimes argued with her and certainly did a lot of things she didn't agree with, but at least they listened. Thatcher didn't. And one also has to consider that the Queen experienced WWII. There is a certain mind-set she has to despise.

I sometimes wonder if the writers confuse the public face of the Queen with how she is behind the scenes.

Frankly, they assume too much knowledge in the audience in the show. I am not sure if even Brits still remember that Anne was once at Olympia, never mind non-Brits.

Yes, and they got their damned pictures, they just had to wait a few days until the mothers felt up to it.

That has nothing to do with cruelty. It is basically in instinctive reaction, most likely hotwired in our brains. Naturally it depends on the so called "play frame"...basically if we realise that someone is in danger, we won't laugh, but a surprise fall in a "safe" situation basically overrides our empathy at least for a moment. And naturally if we are standing in a crowd, one person laughing encourages others to laugh too.

Yeah, I didn't really got this...I mean, I grew up during the HIV epidemic, I basically learned that it is totally okay to use a condom before I even know exactly what happens when you put it on. The idea that virginity before marriage was important was completely alien to me early on. I only knew that maybe you should be careful who you do the deed with. It's sometimes hard to remember that this kind of thinking was still very much a thing just a few years ago...and still is in some circles.

Laughing when someone falls unexpectedly is a human reaction.