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I agree, it is difficult to go from Luke, who tried to save Anakin, someone who was on dark side for 20+ years, to Luke who thought that maybe killing his nephew due to bad dream is good idea.
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S02.E08: Shadow and Flame
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
I wonder about 2 things for future seasons. 1. Will there be some significant timeskip or Rivendell, Barad-dur and later Osgiliath, etc will be build in few days/weeks? 2. How is Pharazon going to attack Valinor when they established in first episode that there is not straight sea route to Valinor? -
S02.E08: Shadow and Flame
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
Celeborn wasn't missing in the lore. Missing Celeborn is invention of showrunners so they could have Galadriel and Halbrand shipping. -
S02.E08: Shadow and Flame
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
To western part of Numenor, where should be his second son Anarion, maybe even Elendil's father. -
S02.E08: Shadow and Flame
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
I assume that orcs will be explained as Sauron put them under his control/spell as he did with elves(any logic to it be damned). No, you didn't missed any scene. Either they forgot that Arondir was wounded or they cut scene where someone healed him(but it has to be only Adar with Nenya). -
S02.E08: Shadow and Flame
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
That was ... not good. Dwarves' storyline was praised as best or among the best in both seasons but how it ended was just disappointing. King of course released balrog as was teased in previous episode but don't worry, he again trapped him. Army, which was needed and couldn't go to help Eregion, wasn't involved in that and then make stealth ambush in city, which even elves would envy. And of course there is Durin's brother, who wasn't mentioned at all(please correct me if he was mentioned in previous episodes or season), and is ready to cause trouble because the neclace which Durin wore doesn't mean that he is heir. Strange that no one is worried that there is balrong just few rocks away(please don't read article in Variety where showrunners are explaining why they sealed balrog again, doesn't meke sense at all).And it seems that Durin will hand rings to other kings. Stranger and hobbits storyline keep its "quality". Stranger is finally confirmed Gandalf(Stroots never saw elf, Stranger looks like man but let call him Grand-elf), Tom Bombadil was Bombadil for one episode and when they used all his lines from books, he became different character(he evokes Olivander from Harry Potter this episode). Poppy and Nori decided to help Stroots and part ways with Stranger. It kind of seems like waste of time this storyline. Númenor wasn't much better. Pharazon came with paper that Miriel is collaborating somehow with Sauron so let the terror begin. Miriel is arrested and Elendil is heading west where is his second son who didn't bother to visit his father before his execution. Kemen needed just to kick puppy and steal some candy from kid how cartonishly villain he is. Isildur almost had girlfriend, very "fulfilling" storyline. And Numenor now decide to colonize Middle Earth when in previous seasons were againts it? Eregion was sacked, Celebrimbor killed. I wonder if the elf who was healed by Nenya died when Adar's injuries came back after he handed ring back to Galadriel. Morfydd Clark's strong suit are not action scenes. Arondir's wound was probably only flesh wound, because he was completly fine this episode. Orcs endeed turned againts Adar but in the end found that it was mistake. Sauron is not afraid that he will be "Ceasared" again. I was little surpised that no one try to stopped them when they attacked Adar, not even orcs which bringed Galadriel. To overall my overall feelings about this season: It may seems harsh but at this point Amazon should replace showrunners and probably also all writers. They don't have any idea how to build storyline which will spread entire season, how to work with scale and time, how to have logic in their storyline. People are teleporting as needed. The plot points are so rushed as there is no buildup - Durin Elder put ring on and is immedietly greedy, Numenor is now pretty much anti-Valar(don't really know what Sauron is going to do there) until they follow Valar's signs, rings are made overnight unless we have to stall, elves are not listening to Celebrimbor till Galadriel say that he is their lord, etc. There is missing logic in storylines - dwarves rings are corrupted because we lied to Gil-galad so to fix it, let's make more rings. Eregion city built walls between seasons, Adar suspects that Halbrand is Sauron but let him go, orcs turn againts Adar because we need to have them under Sauron, etc. Gil-galad is so dissapoting as character. There are no consequences for character's actions - for Galadriel no punishment that she didn't tell who Halbrand is, Elrond is still hanging with Cirdan after Cirdan betray him, etc. The easter eggs or using lines from books or scenes from movies are more miss then hit and usually done in so heavyhanded way. In the end improvement over first season but still at best average fantasy show. -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
According to this picture, it seems that elves built walls between season 1 and season 2. Wonder if showrunners forgot to add them in season 1 or if they just decide to add them for battle/siege. https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ost-in-Edhil#/media/File:The_Rings_of_Power_(TV_series)_-_Ost-in-Edhil.jpg -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
Let's agree to disagree because I don't see Galadriel in that situation as victim of deceit that Halbrand is king. And if yes, it as Sauron did 5% of deceit and remaining 95% were Galadriel's doing. -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
But the assumption was her own, he didn't say it belongs to his family or something similar. He didn't say that he is Sauron but all other conclusions were her own. There was no deception in making her belive that Halbrand is from royal family. -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
I don't think that Celebrimbor and Galadriel's situations are comparable. While Celebrimbor admited that he knew that there is something wrong with Annatar and still go with Annatar's plan, Sauron had to actively work to keep Celebrimbor and other elves under deception. Problem is also that rings of power in show are not vanity project of elven smiths. Elven and dwarves rings are created to heal/fix existing problem(dying tree and Khazad-dum without sunlight) which is presented that crisis for each race. On other hand Galadriel saw the crest and then just assumed that Halbrand is lost king, here Sauron didn't have to do any/almost any work. Galadriel came to conclusions herself. She dismissed any parts which weren't convenient for her. We don't see any manipulation from Sauron's part in order to persuade Galadriel that Halbrand is lost king and she need his help in Southland. -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
I kind of disagree. During their stay on Númenor, it was Galadriel who was pushing that Halbrand is king of Southland, that he has to return and reclaim crown even when he told her several times that he found the crest on dead man and he is not from king's line. We can even say that Galadriel was manipulating Halbrand for her purpose. -
S02.E07: Doomed to Die
Grimnar replied to paulvdb's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
Well, what to say about this episode. Visually good and probably best episode so far in this season but writing is not good and most of the time not even decent. I don't know if it is fault of showrunners or writers but no one has any sense of time, scale, scope or story logic. Again people are teleporting when needed. Dwarves learned that Eregion is under siege. Also dwarves are aware there is some monster in deeps or probably right behind the tunnel guarded by Durin and Disa(I think it is telling that writers have to use story from Third Age to have any storyline for dwarves). I take it that king Durin is practicaly deposed. Durin's speech about helping their friends came kind of flat when we didn't see any friendship between elves and dwarves(and friendship between Durin and Elrond is too little, especialy when Elrond lied to Durin half of the time). Dwarves are ready to march but in the end don't send any army because everyone has to restrain king? I wonder if remaining dwarves rings are still in Khazad-dum or we are supposed to assume that other kings already paid and recieved rings. Elven army finally arrived(and now they have even horses) but orc army is 10 times larger, which begs question how they wanted to invade Mordor. Orc army just destroy mountain with catapult, river dissapear in 5 minutes and of course there is no mud when needed to have army to assault walls. Troll was little underwhelming. Gil-galad is also so far underwhelming as High King of Noldor in Middle-Earth. Celebrimbor finally see through ilussion(he didn't notice sooner that he is using still same candle) but everyone in city is under Sauron's influence and literally he is controling even their bodies. I don't understand Sauron's plan to provoke Adar to attack Eregion and then pressure Celebrimbor to finish rings because they don't have time. Celebrimbor's tragedy is undermined when he admited that he knew that Annatar is evil but still go through with his plan because he wanted surpass Feanor even when they didn't establish this desire in previous season and it was mentioned in one sentence in this season. And why is there conveniently old dwarf tunnel which lead to city build by Celebrimbor? Will Galadriel face some consequences for not telling about Halbrand's identity when it lead to destruction of Eregion and Khazad-dum? Do you think that Adar will be killed by orc who seems as his second-in-command? I know that there is still one episode but Isildur's storyline in second season is that he escaped from cave and helped rescue Theo? -
S02.E06: Where Is He?
Grimnar replied to AnimeMania's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
My bad, I meant Nienna but wrote Nienor. Thanks for correcting. About the not many witnesses during trial, I think this is one of the issues of the show. We have elven cities, Númenor, Southland village, etc but every time it seems that there are 20-30 people max, which makes everything small. At some places it makes sense or can be explained like Harfoots tribe or faithful in shrine on Númenor but during coronation, Adar's army, elves in Lindon during healing of tree, etc it doesn't make sense to have present only 30 people.- 33 replies
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S02.E06: Where Is He?
Grimnar replied to AnimeMania's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
I would say that Númenor schism between faithful and Pharazon's group is not depicted very well in the show. They will probably spend more time on it in next season but so far it is not exactly clear what is supposed to be general feeling of Númenor regarding Valar.- 33 replies
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S02.E06: Where Is He?
Grimnar replied to AnimeMania's topic in The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power
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