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I think the article is arguing that the sketch *did* need to do more than that. I read it as saying the sketch was a caricature, while what was needed was more purposeful statement. But to be fair, the show was handicapped there, because most of the criticisms of Kavanaugh's testimony *are* surface level. He drank beer, he had calendars, he shouted, he cried. The hearing, and the still ongoing investigation, hasn't provided meat beyond that. There is the implication that Kavanaugh's reactions are driven by entitled white privilege, but that narrative is being applied to many things/people/institutions in power. It's isn't saying anything new. So as the article states, the easiest path to follow was exaggerating reality, vs. saying something new. That seems to be what bothers the article's writer. I'm not deep enough to notice the difference. I'm kind of surprised so many people loved this sketch. It was decent. I think what actually made it was the "student" who was so gung ho about being an oil barron. "You're weak like H.L. Minken!" I'm sorry I can't recall her name now (edit: MELISSA VILLASEÑOR!), but I have come to enjoy her characters. Also, it annoys me that the closed captioning live and online translates one of Driver's asides to the teacher (Aidy) as "ma'm" when is he clearly saying, "'marm," as in school marm. I expected Pete to pointedly ask Colin something along the lines of, "You get it, right" when they were talking about Pete/Grande, given Jost *was* Pete a year or more ago with ScarJo (admittedly, a much more mature couple, but the concept was the same). It was surprising they didn't go there.

Not only responding to Sarah, just encapsulating this quote in lieu of various, similar responses. Wow, I am amazed at how so many people blow off the fact that Stuart, the owner of the business, is asking out his employee. IRL, people scream bloody murder about this. You can never be sure that the employee saying no would not result in repercussions, much less that if they date and it goes south it wouldn't end poorly. Dating a co-worker is a gray area. The business owner dating an employee is not, at least in my experience. And Stuart is looking at this as a girlfriend thing, not a friend. Otherwise the show wouldn't spend time showing him fretting over looking good for his date. I know this is a TV show, so it can be whatever the writers want it to be. And I'm mostly just debating the logic here, this doesn't keep me up at night or anything. Many comments on this site are built around real life, so I think there should at least be some connection. And people are all in on being lonely enough at 35 to seek an arranged marriage, but hand wave the power dynamic of a boss asking out an employee.

It would have worked better if they had included positive outcomes for kids on the outskirts of these "cool kids." Because the skit focused only on the behaviors related to Kavanaugh-type behaviors, it felt overtly political vs. an observation of people, actions and karma. I would have liked the latter, but I'm biased given I was always a kid on the outskirts of what seemed like idiotic behavior and yet lots of other people there thought it was awesome.

I guess on a TV show. In an era when people are getting married later or not at all, with a character who is a youthful mid-30s, I cannot imagine going to arranged marriage. Let your married friends be envious of you.

So no one is bothered that a boss is hitting on his employee? mid 30s? Same thing.

I don’t watch this show all the time. Doesn’t Denise work for Stuart? Raj is what, 30? And he is tired of being single? Good grief.

Man, the MC going all paramilitary, with the hand gesture and all in the dark, cracked me up. So ridiculous. What exactly was the club’s goal when they picked a fight with military side at his shop and then when they “rang the doorbell?” Was there a plan there? So Emily will be breaking bad now? Wait, I thought the killing of the traitor nun was her plan? To blame it on the rebels? So why did she and Galindo man look surprised? Have to admit, intrigued by the DEA agent and what he knows about EJO... and the agent’s reaction to playing hardball. Also, I was hoping for some Lt Castile images!

I agree with your logic, but also, I wonder if they are collectively Germans because they might not be missed in any way that this US TV show would concern itself. If they do these kinds of jobs regularly, over long periods of time, they probably have cover stories that can be manipulated easily. They could all die in a "mine collapse," for instance. The concern would be in Germany, and BCS could move right along. The only lesson the small number of people who know the truth will get is, don't screw with Gus.

On top of that, Chuck was right that Jimmy's presence brings down *other* people as well. Without Jimmy, would Kim have ever started down a path of thrills from cons? I guessed last season that Kim was attracted to Jimmy's cons, and the thrill of the execution of them. This week confirmed it. I'm hoping now that her ultimate fate is maybe a temporary disbarment (like Jimmy) and not execution by drug lords., which is what I have been fearing. This show is all about people becoming who they really are, in the right circumstances. Jimmy is Exhibit A. Walt was the same in BB. To various degrees, Kim is another example, as is Mike. I think it's beyond the question of events causing people to break bad. It's more that they always had that in them, and they were held back due to other restraints until the right circumstances arose. Agree. We were throwing out a bunch of things that could have been done to poke holes in the scam, starting with having the lawyer's team call multiple numbers at once and having them all ring in Jimmy's lair. But OK, it's a TV show.

Sadly, that’s how many relationships are. I don’t mean she would simply demand he change. She would have to come to grips with how she felt, which would surprise her, but it is what it is. So it wouldn’t be unusual, in my experience.

I thought perhaps the show was going to take a big step into the unknown, with Amy confronting Sheldon that the scheduling thing, or maybe the way he treats other people, is different for her now that they are married and viewed universally as a couple. But it didn't. Too bad. ITA. Given what we already know about the parents of the other characters, there was a chance here for the main cast to, together, examine their current couples relationships in light of their parents and discuss possible futures. But that didn't happen, either. Too bad. I really only watch now to see it all end. The show is, and has been mostly for a few years, running in circles.

I actually don’t find Kim attractive. Love that she is smart, but her looks are average and her direction is vague. YMMV.

I don't know if the comments are negative so much as ... puzzled. I agree with all of your one-line comments about various characters, while at the same time I don't know what Insatiable was about. It started out as being (IMO) about Patty and her belief that she would be viewed totally differently after losing weight, and all the fat shaming baggage that goes with it. That alone would have been a great story (and something Dietland started with and then also lost the thread). But then it seemed to be more about Patty being selfish, angry and unstable and wanting revenge. Enough to murder someone even. So is it about a fat shamed person or a crazy person (which invalidates anything Patty experienced around fat shaming, since Patty is unstable so we don't know what actually happened when she was shamed, only her version). THEN the idea of Patty being possessed through eating her unborn twin was offered. OK, that's out there, but I'll go with it. But that idea seemed to be dropped. Though the concept of her being possessed may still exist? THEN Patty both kills Christian and saves what's her name, at the same time. So is she actually just a horrible human being for killing Christian? or an improving one for saving what's her-name? Candace? I seriously can't remember. Meanwhile, all the people around Patty are either nutso or can't make up their minds. Nonnie seems to realize that she isn't herself around Patty, and leaves her, but then comes running back. Coralee loves Bob, rejects gay Bob, wants a threesome with both Bobs, doesn't want a threesome with the Bobs, has one and loves the threesome, and then ... is unsure if she can handle it. Bob B's pageant daughter, whose name I forget, wants to be in pageants, doesn't want to and then wants to again. Everyone is so back and forth. There are lots of high school kids in this, but it isn't a show about coming of age in high school. There are lots of adults sorting out gender identity, but it isn't a show about that. Then there is the whole beauty pageant world and setting, which Insatiable appeared to be about for 4-5 episodes but then left that path almost as an afterthought to character interactions. The one thing I thought the show did really well from a narrative POV is track the Bobs' YEARS of dislike of each other, and how they tormented each other (mostly perfect Bob B tormenting regular Bob), and lead it to a funny and entirely plausible conclusion that they loved each other. That was fantastic. Second to that is Nonnie and the sensitive way her coming out was handled. Though the brief girlfriend was more a device than a character. And I haven't even mentioned Dixie and her self-admittedly crazy mom, or Brick, or Christian, or Pastor whomever, or a bunch of other people. So what was Insatiable about? They all were insatiable for different things, even things they didn't know they wanted? There seemed to be too much indecision to be simply that. It was almost screwball enough to just be a zany comedy, which I can accept, except there was too much serious stuff (like Nonnie coming out) to be zany. So while I will watch more if there is more, I am on the side of Insatiable season one being all over the place. I'd like to see a more defined narrative if there is a season 2.

How long does it take to clean up bodies in Mexico? A while, apparently. So Dita is Gemma, and Blondie is Jax’s wife, and Galindo is Jax, wanting to change his family’s business to legit. And EZ walks like Jax. I still think the pres of the MC is an ahole, with a weak presence. Man, that casino was depressing. I love how EJO plays “harmless old man.” I knew at some point he would kick some ass. Less than zero interest or sympathy for Emily. You benefited from that life, sometimes you end up paying for it. Oh, and was that the first instance of a Mayans show character saying, “I get that?” I used to count those on SOA.

I'm glad to get away from the pageant stuff for a bit. Never been a fan, even when it is being mocked (and it isn't mocked hard enough in this show). While I enjoy Insatiable, I can't quite get a handle on its style. It swerves all over the place, with some characters sometimes acting reasonably, then unreasonably, and other characters being consistently crazy (and crazier). It's less about building on a base and more random. Which is fine, it just means anything can happen at any time and I don't get a sense of where this is going. So many of these characters first get mad (Roxy, Nonnie, Nonnie's girlfriend, Coralee, etc.) and the do a 180 and come back sad. The constant drama would wear me out. At the same time, the show handles some things, like coming out, remarkably sensitively at times.

Yeah, thanks for the corrections. Clearly I don't recall my SOA endings. By then admittedly i wasn't paying much attention.

That seems harsh to me. I want Mayans to stand on its own as much as anyone, and have posted that, but it's in the same universe as SOA. We saw Mayans on SOA, Now we have seen two characters from SOA on Mayans, for maybe 20 seconds (Gemma) and a minute (Chucky). That doesn't seem to be an intentional effort to draw in viewers by resting on SOA characters. What did strike me as weird is how normal Gemma and Chucky seem. I guess I'm still not over Jax's end. They should all be devastated, even if it is 2 years later! Me, too. And just as clearly, there doesn't seem to be any chemistry between her and her cartel husband. makes me wonder why she got with him. OMG. Sutter could have written that line for one of his characters! Too funny.

Wow. This may be the slowest reveal of a show's central point ever. Assuming that "Insatiable" applies to a long-term effect of having a demon inside you. There were so many earlier references to Satan and demons through the first episodes, but no single reference pointed toward this conclusion. I'm not sure if I admire this or an annoyed by it.

The Jesus Magician cardboard cut out for the pageant was the funniest thing in this series so far. A literal interpretation of “Magic Jesus,” complete with crown of thorns. Now they just needed Gob’s music from Arrested Development. Thay said, I knew Mags would somehow get disqualified because that’s how this show rolls - a goal, a loss and then a miracle reversal. A bit predictable now.

I have to agree with others that Patty is the least interesting character on this show. Bob’s warning to Brick that Patty lashes out when she doesn’t get what she wants was the most interesting aspect of Patty. But we haven’t seen that since the first two episodes. The incestuouness of this town is beyond belief. I know the show is kind of campy, but it’s like 2 degrees of Kevin Bacon instead of 6. I would feel badly for Nonnie but she chose a terrible place and time to confess to Patty. And Patty handled it well given that, IMO. She didn’t freak, or get mad, or run away. She said she loved Nonnie more than anyone. I hope Nonnie settles down and can talk with Patty again. I’m finding myself getting bored now and then. There is a lot of people almost getting what they want, and then being sabotaged, and then having to come back from the sabotage. I want things to move on.

She is the worst kind of Villain spouse ... she happily enjoys the benefits of the evil, but pretends like it doesn’t exist by compartmentalizing it. So yeah, I don’t care about her, or him, or the baby. Sorry, baby! This show is OK. Lots of odd things, like EZ spouting off to the Galindo guy. But for lightweight TV, it’s OK. And it has EJO.

Definitely. And the theme song is about being a dog that is kicked around, and a member of a pack. We'll see the dog for a while, I assume. I'm impressed at his survival skills and mobility.

Yes... and she said “assholes” while the guards scuffled with the jailed preprospect. Kind of funny.

I don’t know why these guys ever have to look up and see who is coming in the door, those fucking loud motorcycles pretty much give you a clue. So we got a young guy having to prove himself in the club. He wasn’t club royalty like Jax, but similar situation. And with a heart of gold, and a brain. Like Jax. Love the geniuses taking fruitless potshots at the fleeing thieves instead of saving their guys in the trucks. Brothers. Not a fan of the opening music. Reminds me of the central conceit of SOA that I never liked: That these guys had no choice, circumstances forced them into this life. Even as we saw one SOA character after another make bad decisions that led to their downfall. Jax was interesting because he could see that, and wanted out. He failed, due to his decisions and misplaced “family” love, but at the start he showed us that the fruitlessness was clear and there were better paths. The prospect is already there, as an informant. And already is Jax Jr. Would have liked something original. Actually disliked almost all the music in this episode. It was too retro. And it was weirdly used. Music for sitting down at a meeting? So how long was this dude injured before they took him to the doctor? They had time for a cartel meeting first? That dog gets around. Why does the prospect check out women across streetscapes 24/7? So the solution to this issue was a massive firefight with automatic rifles in a graveyard? Wouldn’t a snatch and grab make more sense? The pres of the MC is kind of a jackass. Cartel wife/old girlfriend wears too much blush. I dunno. It was so-so. EJO’s presence alone guarantees I watch at least three episodes.

I think Kim going back to the courtroom, defying the judge, was the point. She seems to be working up to either “I’ve had enough of this good dooby lawyer shit” or to be Jimmy’s partner in crime. Or both. I do think the whole scene with Mike in group was to emphasize his feeling guilty. And listening to all the lies and lame crap around him, I can see how Mike would blow, eventually. I had a debate with a friend about whether Mike was a Mary Sue, demonstrating behaviors that viewers would admire and substitute themselves into his role. I didn’t think so, Mike is too flawed. And in this group session, we saw one of his flaws. I love the legend of The Cousins. They can do anything. And ITA about the annoying eating sounds. I almost fast forwarded the scenes because of that. Ugh!