Faemonic

The bolded parts of this post made me laugh out loud. Hook's like their human-shaped stray cat that comes in for the occasional meal and then goes out again to maybe get fed by a neighbor and nobody knows when he'll be by, so they learn not to wonder. I mean, without the Jolly where does he even live?? I can only think "Tinkerbell's sofa" and imagine their rum-and-absinthe Thursdays. Unless Tinkerbell's a nun now.

She should have done that on herself before the Zelena arc. Regina and Hook seemed to be platonically close (they've had two conversations about moral philosophy, one initiated by Regina; Hook always uses the highest royal title when talking to Regina or about Regina whereas Snow White is still just "milady", and Regina's the one bringing up to Emma how much Hook likes Emma when they were supposed to be focusing on Emma's magic lesson) but I think it got weird between them after Marian because those two just don't talk at all anymore. Regina's gone from "your majesty/highness" to "that woman" to Hook. And Hook to Regina seems like just Emma's arm candy now.So there could actually be a good in-show reason for Regina not to do it, but I'm guessing that it's really the usual out-of-show reason that Regina didn't.

Well, he is The Dark One. They're smarter than Regina who just believed him when he said, "Turning evil will be entirely up to you... Dearie" all the way up until murdering an innocent unicorn. Or gypsy. Yes! Although, Hook seems to have been pushed into the background this season. I wonder if suddenly Ingrid would realize that love interest (i.e., love and light magic trigger) is a threat and so recruited Rumple to do something horrible to Hook. It would make sense, but it wouldn't have been earned because I don't feel like Hook's been allowed to have any real moments with Emma as the supportive lover this season. It'd probably get crammed in the final twenty seconds before he dies, like with Nealfire.

Two things I loved about the mirror scene: 1. Belle trying to rescue Hook from what she thought would be his self-loathing. He shot her in the back when she didn't have a weapon and took away her identity. Yeah, he apologized to her for it, but I still think that was awfully big of Belle. 2. The Charming-Hook team-up. It's like they read each other's minds, like, when did they get that close? Also comes up again when David shoves Hook out of falling lamppost danger.

Can I just say how much I love Elsa? She believed Emma's "They don't look at me differently because of magic!" And only went, "You're lucky." Not, like, "Grr I shall have your charming family for my own!!!!!" I know Elsa's not supposed to be the villain, and maybe Elsa's own self-esteem issues are what make her seem more mature, but that's just so refreshing that someone's emotional issues aren't an apocalyptic landmine! Also, is there trouble in paradise for Baby Neal to have come out normal? Because I thought Emma had magic because she was the product of true love. And that it was light magic. Helga doesn't look like Emma at all. The Enchanted Forest Peerage must have had a bad artist, or Hook has bad eyes. Idunn or Gerda or whatever her name is, she's the real snow queen! Like, girl, that was cooold. Also, I think she looks like Scarlett Johansson at some angles. Also, I don't care if the timelines don't match up, (did Ashley have a second kid already? Did being a flying monkey arrest Aurora's gestation period?) the Storybrooke mommies club was adorable. Baby steps. If Regina's hopeful for a "next time happy ending" then she's not blaming Snow or Emma for ruining (ruining!!!) her life.

Maybe not all of it. We've heard him talk about getting tired of vengeance, brood over Kid Bae, and confess his bad form to Nealfire. But other things, like... - Pirates are riffraff, even with David's blessing and Emma's love, how can he truly expect to end up with a princess? - The Dark One gets married and lives happily ever after while Milah's still dead. Even if Killian's moved on, isn't he still the tiniest bit tempted to have another go at shooting an unarmed woman in the back again to get even? - Ganging up on somebody and kicking them over because they bumped into you on the street and didn't apologize, is not the good manners that you're defending. - Starting a brawl in a restaurant is not the good manners that you're defending. - You totally want to continue to defend good manners without actually displaying good manners. - You're going to fail Henry one day just like you failed Nealfire. And Liam, somehow. - Your alcoholism is going to ruin your life. - Drunk women aren't actually consenting. - If you were so drunk that you forgot what happened, you were not actually consenting. - You've gone from Captain to henchman to second fiddle to everybody. As your dark mirror, allow me to rekindle your megalomania. - And then rub in your face that you're a terrible leader because half your crew in Neverland died in the Echo Caves. - Emma's going to find out your secret deal with the Dark One or else the evidence framing you, either way she'll fall out of love with you.

I don't know who this kid is or if he can fake an accent (or even if he's still a kid), but I see a resemblance: http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/LeMarques/media/bbykilly_zps2a07f43e.jpg.html I just took a screen capture from ComicBookGirl19's House Baratheon video (where she also borrows bandit Snow for another of Robert Baratheon's progeny.)

What I've been thinking of, is Killian's father was some con artist who'd impersonated a member of high society, for which Killian's mother, being a capital-l Lady, took to task with a private team of skilled bounty hunters. (She's a woman on Once Upon A Time, of course she'd kick butt and take names.) What was "Lord Jones"'s true identity? If it's a popular figure, then he would have a sympathetic backstory that is taking Killian with him because he truly loved his son and was just misunderstood by an abusive shrew who disowned her bastard sons Killian and Liam and stuck them with the Jones moniker until they regained their honor enough to become true nobility. They might have retained some high society advantages, though, such as whatever is a classical education in the Enchanted Forest, connections, funding for navy school because that would give them the skills to hunt down Lord Jones... Or it could be that the beloved mother Lady Jones (maiden name) raised two boys single-handedly, working horrible jobs (somewhere between "governess" and "factory-worker"; but not "prostitute" unless you really want to get tragic) after being shunned from high society after the scandal of wedding a fugitive, and died of consumption when Liam and Killian graduated from navy school. Or it could be that Liam and Killian really were just cabin boys--whether full-blooded brothers, or half-brothers, or orphans who bonded deeply enough to pose as brothers for the census that came with a-recruitin' and a-trainin' boys for war and if those recruits already knew how to step in time with a crew, then, all aboard! And the Jones brothers picked up their gentlemanly ways (waltzing, reading) from their fellow brothers-in-arms who were upperclass and volunteered or were drafted. Or maybe courtly conduct was part of navy training in case of ambassadorial escort or something. It could even probably turn to something like... Killian thought that he and Liam were just two orphans who bonded deeply enough to consider each other brothers, but neither of them knew that they were fully or partially related. It shouldn't particularly matter emotionally, but twists like that are supposed to be entertaining. I love that one. And, hey, it is National Novel Writing Month right now...

For those missing TeenWolf Mixtape's recaps, here's one up for this episode by another Tumblrer.

Maybe Belle heard that Anna is alive because of Bo Peep's shepherd's crook heartbeat thing? Offscreen conversations about important things to the characters, are not unheard of on this show. They wouldn't be Belle's own memories, though. Thematically, I would have about that difficult a time giving up personal integrity for the life of somebody that I just met, too. Ohh... and that made my just realize like just now why upthread people are saying that this is Belle's "Jolly Roger"! For some reason it reminds me of any other episode but that, ones that broke continuity and made mountain-sized contrivances too, but it bugs me that I can't really really remember exactly which... It's probably for the best. Much as I love Hook, he was the Pirate King of That's Creepy If I Think Too Much About It until Young Cora dethroned him with her Way Back Story.

I really miss Red. And Tinkerbell, a little bit. Unless that was the wrong secret! Moe's tried to take Belle's memories before, and I agree with everybody upthread who's said that Belle's father acted super shady about his wife dying. Like, used-Belle's-Mother-as-human-sacrifice-to-open-portal-and-summon-ogre-eating-eldtrich-abominations-from-other-dimensions-as-Belle-looked-on-in-horror kind of shady. That was a weird line to me, too. Emma does her Emma bantering, so I didn't think that was shutting Hook down, but... it was like half a thought? "The past can hurt." "You'd know that being 1000." "Closer to 200..." And it still hurts. Say that. Just... complete the thought, Captain Quipper. Complete the thought and hold hands or something.I mourn the loss of the between-the-lines vitriolic friendship between Hook and Regina. They've interested me for the first time since Skin Deep. There was a blip with Lacey really being a Belle who appreciates Rumple's dark side, but that went nowhere fast and didn't even get in the crossNealfire.

I stand corrected. If I'm not imagining the change from the way Hook talks from last season, then, maybe it's just more attempt at a romanticized pirate-talk, then? We've got "ayes" and an "ahoy" recently but thankfully no excess of "arrr" (yet.)

Thank you! I've been noticing way more of a Cockney accent since the season started, and was wondering if O'Donoghue's been running his lines with Socha behind the scenes, and was wondering if it was just me hearing it. Hook didn't seem to be wearing the Supportive Boyfriend role well to me, I don't know, he just didn't. I consider that strange, because his Neverland compliments got me to completely forget that he left Emma in a jail cell with Team Princess, heck, his Beanstalk Climbing Psychotherapy got me prepared to forget that sudden but inevitable betrayal as soon as the bars melted--so I personally consider Hook phenomenally excellent at stepping into the Supportive Love Interest role. Now I'm like, "Wait what you are not that close yet." Maybe it was because of the events of The Apprentice? But I don't get the impression that episode 05 and 04 were supposed to be in one another's places.

That would be a cute reversal of the Dreamshade secret, David being privy to Hook's secret and nagging Hook to tell Emma.

I heard that there is an interview where O'Donoghue said that Hook did lose on purpose, but I can't find it anywhere, forgot who said that in the first place, and they didn't provide a link. That said, Hook has been way psychic this season. How did he know that Snow and Regina reconciled their differences? How did he know that Baelfire was going to resurrect the dark one for magic to get him back to Land Without Magic? Hook wasn't there, he was riding away. So if he was truly knocked out cold and still managed to see the power inside Emma when Cora tried to take her heart, I don't know. Maybe Hook will grow a third eye on the palm of his hand and become a Seer!

But mindbird there are monkeys on the way out of town and if he leaves then he won't know if Zelena would decide to kill everybody Emma loves because he left (and what what Zelena threatened to do, she would probably do anyway) But then again when it came to this important plot point nothing made sense, so if next episode puts Hook in a corner because he tried to skip town and got caught up by a flying monkey then I wouldn't be surprised.

I loved the remix of the pirate theme in The Jolly Roger episode, and the fight choreography, and seeing Hook's fierce Face of Resolve again.

The way I figured it... 0. Contrivance angst, they couldn't end the episode with Hook saying, "Halp m curzed"; here's hoping that confession comes at the beginning of the next episode, but aside from that 1. The other Charmings and Henry were missing. What if Zelena was currently holding them hostage in case Hook tried to tell them or anyone? 2. Hook began to lie his ass off, maybe hoping that Emma would turn her superpower on what with magic training that day 3. What if Zelena was watching them from her magic mirror? Maybe the protection spell was only powerful enough to ensure that she doesn't go there, but isn't warded from scrying 4. Once everyone was in the safe space, Hook could not have privacy from Henry to talk about magic things 5. Zelena gave no deadline. Hook could pull his "in it for the long haul" and wait until Henry graduates from university to make his move, if Zelena so forced his hand

Hook's a fantasy, so I'd say it's perfectly healthy and this opinion is completely and utterly unbiased of course ;-) (Although if you want to get all Jungian about it, a dastardly mischievous Animus might be a good sign because we tend to get infatuated with qualities matching unrealized potential within ourselves or something. It's just that as Alex said Hook is usually just so fun.)

I think that New York City Serenade struck the perfect balance between puppy love Hook and the arrogant sauntering jerkass douche that I fell in love with, so I can deal with sad flat-quippy Hook for a few episodes more. The diner scene with Emma this episode 3.16, I love it. Although the dart board also makes me miss Graham. Hook's getting all up in Emma's personal space even though she almost jabbed him in the face with a feather there. "What, rum?" "Doesn't hurt!" Wow, he was holding up that flask as if he had it out already. Why. The bar was right there. Granny obviously caters to daytime drinkers. I was expecting his liquor brand logo to pop up at the corner of the scene, he was so game about it. "Leather, conditioner, and eyeliner?" Hook actually didn't have eyeliner on in that scene, though.

The Hook-Baelfire-Rumple relationship triangle had developed into one of the most interesting relationships on this show, I think, so it's great that the writers gave it some actual attention...but it's too late, for everybody. That gives me the sads. Neal came back and Rumple was just darking around with Lacey after roughly 328 years of trying to get Bae back. Neal came back again and he and Hook just get into a lighter fight. From their point of view, they would only have had, like, a few days all together without trying to kill each other. So...That's it? That's what ends the story of the plucky young man who basically got this main story all rolling? There wasn't even an epic battle, it was just five minutes of Swan Thief fan service followed by a nearly immediate, "Emma kill me with magic." I could watch the Hook-Baelfire hug over and over. The muffled "what the hell" against Hook's leather coat and the hug and the carnelian-studded bro first to the chest and the capital-s Significance of addressing the captain as "Killian"...where was this, all season? It's like, that all doesn't happen until right before it's about to all end it makes me saaad. It sort of worked, but it was all so rushed. And I feel so sorry for Emma, I'm projecting Graham flashbacks into her mind.