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I give them a pass on the backpack dude. Merle had just warned them that the Governor would have look outs everywhere and they were gearing up for "war". Not a good time to trust strangers, and the good old G man liked to play dirty. I wouldn't put it past him to plant someone looking distressed to get at them.

I took it as Rick was buying time so that the kids could get loaded on the bus and they could enacted the escape route? Perhaps I'm giving him to much credit...lol

Eh she was better but still wasn't going on runs and needed Rick to save her when she went outside the fence. People could definitely be useful even if they weren't a Maggie or Daryl, so considering Rick just had to pull her out of the way of a falling down the stairs zombie, well she was in no position to think they wouldn't be useful unless they could canvas a neighborhood for booty.

Yes yet another parenting fail on TWD. I don't see how any children survive in that world! Do these people not have basic instincts or what? I hated how he didn't even look at the baby when he came back from the boiler room to check on Carl. Total dick move.

I don't think they meant that they left the refugee camp a week ago. They said they got split up from their "crew" a week ago and when she was talking about her leg she said it happened at a refugee camp and that's how they met. With how deformed looking it was she wouldn't be walking on it in a week I don't think. I really found the look Rick gave Carol interesting when he said "Wait here" and she was all "or you could help us go looking". He was pissed for sure, and I wonder if she was testing them. When Rick asked her if she thought it was the right move she said it was the humane thing to do, and that it was right if they could help them get through the mess. I wonder if sending them out was her testing them, which I find ironic because Carol has spent the whole ZA being protected by others and like doing laundry. It's a shame too because those were two newbs that I really liked, liked way more then some of the characters who have been on the show for awhile. Also, is it wrong if during the whole Rick/Carol exchange about how she killed two of their own but he killed one and they both did it because they thought they were going to kill them all I could think about was "There's a roll of toilet paper behind Rick he should snag it!" ?

Perhaps if she wanted to lady macbeth she should have told him he tried to rape her once everything came to light.

I made it! I hope you had a great birthday and enjoyed your blue rays. So do you think there is enough extra footage to get the season even if you have all of them DVR'd?

I love love love Seed. I didn't quite get why Herschel all of a sudden had to go with to The Tombs. I always assumed it was Herschel that wanted to do it. He was pretty spry for an old dude before he lost his leg. On the negative side, this episode gave me so much hope for the rest of the season, and we got Rick losing it and chasing Ghost Lori, who managed to be just as freakin' annoying as Alive Lori without saying a word. Add in the Andreacentric episodes and I might not have made it through this season if I hadn't marathoned.

I think he thought it would cause a crisis and it was just one more thing he didn't want to deal with at the time. He was dead wrong in that decision, but I get why he did it. The guy was seriously second guessing himself, and I didn't realize how bad it was until he thought his own son was going to shoot him because he thought he saw him kill Shane. How far down does your confidence in yourself have to go to believe that?

Crap I wore one today. . IF I don't post tomorrow you know why!I'll have to do something completely stupid so that I'll be kept around for drama's sake.

At first I thought the whole pushing away from Rick when he tells her was because Carl put him down after he became a Walker, but she stops hugging him and steps away as soon as he tells her he killed Shane. Cold. She just gets more upset when she finds out about Carl, which if she was watching her damn kid he wouldn't have been there to begin with. The thanks you's and niceties from Season 3 did sometimes have that back bite, but I figured most of them were because she knew she wasn't in very good standing with the group which is not a place you want to be in during the ZA. As for Carl running off and getting medical supplies, she should have whooped him good. I know now that is considered child abuse, but in the ZA children better learn real quick to listen. If this was "real" Carl never would have made it out of season two alive. There is a reason why there were harsher punishments for children when the world was a more dangerous place, and why we don't need them now. I've seen lots of people say you can't watch your kid all the time but yes, yes you can and should if you know they don't listen at. all. and there is a ZA going on! Oh, and edited because I was to quick on the Reply button....I don't think Rick is anywhere near to being perfect and the man does have his issues too. I think his issues were fleshed out better, like how she said she just wanted him to yell. She obviously had no problem saying hateful things (in front of the kid too) so his answer was to shut down. That would drive me crazy too, but I think that comes with the territory a lot of times when you marry a cop.

But then they wouldn't have been able to drive around and talk about it for 2 episodes... ;)

I did too. I liked that we saw that side of him, not just the emotional side but the asshole side. I actually liked Beth in it too. She is supposed to be this protected teenager and I think she did well with that she was given to work with in that episode. I'm also probably in the biggest minority when I say I really want to see what happens with the Beth character now. She was always quoting back things her Father said like "We all got jobs to do" and I think she was a Daddy's girl who just wanted to make her Father happy. That made her a bit boring as a character, but I think it will be interesting to see how her story goes from here. I think others might have liked it too if it weren't for the big shipping wars and quite frankly I can't see Daryl with Beth or Carol. Beth seems to young and Carol seems to old. That, and I think he's like asexual or something.

I did hate Lori, but then again I hated her from the very first flashback when Rick and Shane were talking and Rick told the story about Lori saying "I don't even know if you love us" in front of Carl. I totally got it when Rick was on the psychic phone network and he said "I couldn't open that door, I couldn't take the chance". I think Lori had a cruel streak long before the ZA, and she knew how to hurt people. Rick forgave a lot of crap from her like you said, but I think there was a history of her hurting him. I know, I know, she thought he was dead when she slept with Shane, but thought he was dead for what, a couple of weeks? Hell probably less since Shane said they had carried on quite a bit before Rick turned up again. I could almost be like whatever when it comes to that but the fact that she left her kid to have a woodsie booty call? Unforgiveable in my eyes. I'll always be harder on the Moms, whether right or wrong. My Mom kicked ass and no one messed with her kids, so all these moronic Moms in this series have a very high standard to live up to in my eyes I guess.

Everything about the Governor in Season 4 sucked. They should have introduced a new big bad. He was just a tired, worn out storyline that was around way too much in Season 3, much less Season 4. Maybe if they would have created a new evil dude he wouldn't have come out as cartoonish as the Governor. Bunnyblue I can't agree more. How in the world did these people with all their experience not have a pre-determined meeting place. Put all the kids on a bus and drive away isn't exactly a good plan. Maybe because they all went to where Sophia was found at the end of Season 2 and no one (besides Andrea, who they thought was dead) was left behind they just didn't think about it? But how could they not??? I guess they figure the last half of the season wouldn't have been as good if they were all still together? I know they were driving characters storylines, but they could have done that without a big old mess like they did. I think it would have been much better if they did all have a meeting place and while on the road saw signs for Terminus and part of the group wanted to go, while others had the smart "if it looks to good to be true it probably is" thing going on. They could splinter that way, with the smart people maybe finding out what Terminus was and rushing to save the group that set off for it.

Didn't she make super bug eyes anytime she tried to convey emotion? :)

I always assumed it was because she totally Lady Macbethed him then totally treated him like he was a monster when he actually went through with it.

Not sure, they just posted that on their Facebook page like an hour ago. ?.

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Has anyone ever tried to put together a who were where timeline of the prison gang's travels? Like how no one but Glenn saw Maggie's messages? I get that Daryl was behind Rick and Co, but shouldn't they have crossed some of the messages? Or Carol and Tyreese?

It looks like it was removed by a surgeon....lol

Speaking of comic book Andrea, do you think they might have wanted her to develop into that but that the Andrea hate was going on so strong in season 2 that they decided on her death arc in season 3?

There is something I've been confused about since I saw it, and maybe someone can shed some light on it for me. In the episode Indifference, are we supposed to think that the greenhouse girl's leg just fell off? I mean it looks like it was cut off, and if she was walking around on it I don't see how it could be so weak that it would sever so cleanly.

Judith will be lucky if he doesn't tell her about Lori!

Ghoulina that is exactly why InShane would never have been a good leader. He just acted and didn't think things through.